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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:33 PM
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I think I am right to play hardball...do you?
Edited on Mon May-08-06 10:33 PM by Sannum
I got over it...maybe you should.

Jesus.

I am going to GD to cool off:crazy:
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:39 PM
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1. Generalizing 11 countries worth of people into one negative group
and then saying 'no offense' is generally not in good form.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:52 PM
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2. I am not generalizing
He had a Old Soviet Union attitude that was completly out of place in the environment, outdated and sexist.

Which is why I left.

And I have actually studied the cultural differences and yes, they do exist. I have worked for International companies and people with this certain mindset of which I speak are VERY difficult to work for.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 09:57 PM
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3. So, 11 countries worth of people
have that mindset? Of course cultural differences exist, but it's in bad form to make negative generalizations about huge groups of people. If I know 100 black men that are like x, that doesn't mean its ok to go around and say black guys are like x.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:02 PM
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4. Jesus hon....he was a prick. Can he just be that?
Edited on Mon May-08-06 10:05 PM by Sannum
Or does his nationality prevent me from saying it.

And my uncle is an internationally known Russian cultural expert, so am aware of the cultural history and I have lived in Europe so I am well aware of cultural differences as well.

Who brought up black men?:shrug:

I can give ya his number. He is looking for a Marketing Assistant. Maybe you will enjoy working for him? Perhaps you will clean the office better than I did.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:04 PM
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5. Yeah, the thing I'm pointing out to you
is you didn't just say that. His nationality doesn't STOP you from saying that, but generalizing about his nationality is in bad form.

I was using black men as an example of a group of people that most frown on generalizing about, no matter your personal experience.

This has nothing to do with being an 'internationally known Russian cultural expert', this has to do with it being bad form to make sweeping generalizations about nationalities.

I'm not looking for your street creds or your history of family accomplishments, I'm giving you a heads up. Generally, bad form.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:06 PM
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6. Yeah...the old Soviet attitude is a GOOD thing.
:eyes:

It worked out so well out there...
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:07 PM
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8. You are totally missing the point
and I hope it's on purpose.
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:08 PM
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9. Oh yeah...that's me.
A raving, unforgivable racist.

Sure.:crazy:
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:09 PM
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10. Yep. Totally missing the point.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:11 PM
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:12 PM
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12. If you think that was 'pissed off'
I think you need an attitude adjustment.

Wait, why am I bothering? Yeesh.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:12 PM
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:14 PM
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14. oh yeah
That is me in a nutshell.

Jesus.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:21 PM
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17. Let me talk you through this in point form...
Edited on Mon May-08-06 10:24 PM by primate1
"The guy was Latvian...the Eastern European bloc is never an easy one to work for"

- This is what we call a generalization. You are implying that all Latvians and members of the Eastern European Bloc are jerks, based on the bad experiences you've had.

- Girlincontempt then pointed out that making such generalizations is in poor taste.

- You assume (somehow, I'm not sure how you got this impression) that she was defending the guy who was a dick to you.

- Girlincontempt says that she isn't telling you not to say bad things about him because the guy's Latvian, she's saying not to say bad things about Latvia in general because this guy was a jerkoff.

- You continue to think she's defending his jerkishness.

- Girlincontempt says you're missing the point.

- You imply that she called you a racist.

- I am baffled by your inability to follow all of this.

Clearer now?
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:24 PM
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18. All of which is predicated on people caring what you think is
in poor taste
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:25 PM
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19. And making sweeping generalizations about entire populations of people...
Is something that I'm sure most people would agree is in poor taste.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:25 PM
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20. From the DU rules:
. Content: Do not post messages that are inflammatory, extreme, divisive, incoherent, or otherwise inappropriate. Do not engage in anti-social, disruptive, or trolling behavior. Do not post broad-brush, bigoted statements.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:26 PM
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21. GirlinContempt for the win.
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:28 PM
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22. Oops
. Content: Do not post messages that are judged by some random poster to be in bad form, inflammatory, extreme, divisive, incoherent, or otherwise inappropriate. Do not engage in anti-social, disruptive, or trolling behavior. Do not post broad-brush, bigoted statements.

missed that one sorry

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:36 PM
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:16 PM
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15. Her point was of the the namby-pamby sort
that generally makes Liberals look like equivocating wimps

and besides, all black men are criminals
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 11:01 PM
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25. Unlike conservatives,
who make many points merely by posting various pictures of "STFU" and "pwn3d".

Cuz they are such good debaters.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:06 PM
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7. Keep the keys. They'll change the locks.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:17 PM
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16. Wow. What happened in THIS thread?
:popcorn:
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 10:59 PM
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24. No kiddin'.
Methinks we stumbled into a flamefest continuum.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-08-06 11:15 PM
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26. Locking.
This thread is one big flamefest.
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