And the winner of Survivor is...(Spoiler)

[xmas74]

It's Aras. He beat Danielle.

Looks like it was a close vote.

[Pithlet]

1. I turned it off in disgust after the tie breaker challenge.

I just don't care, now. After I get over it, I might watch it later on the TiVo.

[xmas74]

2. We'll say that Danielle is quite dumb,

listening to Aras and his reasoning. She wouldn't have had those votes either way she chose.

[seaglass]

3. Watching even though I was spoiled. It doesn't matter though

I don't like any of the final ones much - I prefer Courtney, Sally and Shane.

I liked Shane's speech.:-)

[xmas74]

4. Shane had the best speech.

[seaglass]

6. and it looks like the spoiler was wrong! n/t

[xmas74]

7. The spoiler was for F2.

ChillOne still had the correct F4 order before a single episode aired.

[seaglass]

8. Nope spoiler I got was for the final survivor, because of

heavy betting that was shut down.

[xmas74]

9. That spoiler was a known F2 spoiler.

The heaviest betting came from her area.

But I had to wonder about the spoiler. I could see her as F2 but Aras did not have a losing edit by any means.

[seaglass]

10. Right. I always take spoilers with a grain of salt anyways. I'm

glad it turned out the way it did between the F2.

[xmas74]

11. If ChillOne posts over at Sucks,

I always listen. He's usually dead-on.

This season he posted to F4 and dashed off. He had the vote order in perfect order.

[Orangepeel]

12. Danielle probably thought she won, until the votes were revealed

the spoiler was wrong because Danielle was wrong.

[seaglass]

14. That sounds right. She really was clueless wasn't she? n/t

[xmas74]

16. Exactly.

And she found out that if she had taken Terry it would have been an even worse loss.

She's the girl who can't win, like Lil was.

[kiraboo]

13. Oh come on! Shane's speech had moments of wit

but he was, fundamentally, a childish asshole as always.

[xmas74]

15. But he nailed them both.

Truthfully, neither had the best gameplay. And he stated who was the best player-neither of them.

[xmas74]

5. edit:

Changed the title of the thread and added the info to the top.

I wonder if the teepee is where he's been living at home?

[underpants]

17. No I don't think it was close at all

Apparently the teacher guy has quite a crush on Danielle. He was the only one who voted for he. Good Aras should have won. She looked like her usual dour self-consumed princess personality.

Good for him.

[xmas74]

20. The teacher was one of two who stated that they

would have voted for her if she had been up against Terry. Cirie stated she would have voted for her against Terry but I suspect that Aras would have tried to convince her otherwise.

I didn't care that much for Aras but was hoping for him over Danielle. They call her Horseface over at Sucks.

(BTW-I know you don't care but DAMN! Aras did clean up quite nicely.)

[nickinSTL]

18. I'm glad it wasn't Danielle...

she backstabbed her way into the final 3, and won immunity to get to the final 2 (though if she hadn't won immunity, the one who did would have been smart to bring her along).

[xmas74]

21. The immunity win was stacked in her favor.

A challenge of that type favors a lightweight woman. No way Terry w/ his muscle mass could have won it.

Aras' only chance was his yoga training. His height and weight worked against him in the final challenge.

[nickinSTL]

22. I agree that Danielle had an advantage in the final challenge

I don't know when the nature of the challenges is decided...but every challenge tends to favor someone. Just so happens the final favored her (or would have favored anyone smaller/lighter).

[xmas74]

24. Final is usually an endurance of some sort.

Cirie would not have done well if she had made it either. She would have been too heavy for the challenge.

Last season's challenge favored Danni. The height gave her an advantage.

[LynneSin]

19. This is the first season I haven't watched one minute of Survivor

I feel real good!

[xmas74]

23. I was rooting for Terry.

He was like another Tom in the way he dominated the challenges. It was quite a sight to see-Casaya would plan to vote him out every week and he'd win again.

I didn't care for the winner that much but liked him compared to his F2 opponent. My hormones did kick in for a second when they showed him at the reunion. Cleans up nice, tall, Lithuanian (I've dated Russian and Latvian before so he can be lumped in w/ the type) and he's a yoga instructor. Looking at him and realizing he's a yoga instructor led to thoughts of flexibility and that led to thougths of-you know where that led. Just a nice pick-me-up before I had to go to work.