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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:41 PM
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I refuse to use IE
I have an account with Yahoo mail, so I opened a new mail from Yahoo, inviting me to take a "sneak preview" of its new homepage.

But when I try, I am getting a message that "unfortunately, I am using a browser that "we" do not support today."

Which browser? I tried Mozilla, Firefox and Safari. What's left? The one that I do not use, except to test pages that, yes, would not load otherwise.

Buh bye, Yahoo. Call me when you are willing to use other browsers, besides the gorilla.

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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:42 PM
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1. Dont jump too quickly there.
I use the yahoo mail beta on Firefox on a PC. If you like I'll check on safari on my other computer for you.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:50 PM
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8. Firefox on XP and OS X works. Safari does not.
I haven't got Camino but since it is based on Firefox it probably works as well.

I am referring specifically to the beta version of Yahoo Mail. I've been using it for at least 6 months. It's decent but can be buggy.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:55 PM
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11. I am using the regular version of Yahoo mail, not the beta (nt)

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:03 PM
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14. OK, it says Firefox 1.5, mine is 1.0.7
Edited on Tue May-16-06 04:11 PM by question everything
The question now is whether Firefox 1.5 will work with OS 10.2.8 or whether I need the 10.3.

On edit. Downloaded 1.5 and it is working now. Thanks for your help
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:11 PM
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15. Firefox 1.5+ works on OSX 10.2.x
Hell, I got it to work on ubuntu, and it was a major pain in the ass.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:00 PM
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38. Safari works fine on OS X. That's what I'm using now.
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:42 PM
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2. firefox works fine for me on the yahoo! preview
*shrugs*
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:42 PM
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3. Really?
I'm using the latest version of Firefox and I use Yahoo every day without incident.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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6. Same here... n/t
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tcfrogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:45 PM
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7. Same here n/t
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:53 PM
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10. I am referring to the "sneak preview" of the new home page
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:45 PM
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20. I find that odd
I get that page with no problems. I'm not at home so I can't check my settings. That's the first thing I'd look at.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:38 PM
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23. With OSX (10.4.6) and Firefox, I'm having no problem viewing the page.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:40 AM
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30. Safari isn't supported. I will check back. Shiira doesn't work
either. Like Safari it is based on Web Kit.


BTW, If you are using OSX, try Shiira.
http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en
there's also a Shiira for Dashboard


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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:36 PM
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35. I have the same problem you do with firefox
Maybe IE is trying to increase their market share by bullying others into making their sites not work, LOL...
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:37 PM
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40. I am using "Mozilla Firefox" and have no trouble with the preview.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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4. Now that's odd
I've got a yahoo account that I use on an infrequent basis, and I have NEVER had it give me that message, and I'm using Firefox. Very odd. You must be a badass, cuz it's probably the gov't screwing with you! (Join the club!)

Lu
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:43 PM
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5. I use Firefox and seem to have a problem with MSNBC.com.
I think the MS part of the website does something to make Firefox flash and eventually shut down.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:40 PM
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24. If I want to watch video on MSNBC I have to switch over to IE, Firefox
won't work.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:22 AM
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26. Bastards!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:52 PM
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9. Well if it's in beta I wouldn't get too upset yet
I'm sure the developers at Yahoo! are well aware that there are browsers beyond IE.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:56 PM
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I don't think it is beta
have been using the same account for several years now..
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:34 PM
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17. I thought it was a "sneak preview" link that gave you a problem?
Edited on Tue May-16-06 04:40 PM by high density
Yahoo! mail works fine for me in Mozilla 1.7.13 on Windows and Linux.

(Update) Yahoo sneak preview in Mozilla:



"We plan to support additional browser versions soon." There must be some reason why they're allowing Firefox 1.5 but denying Mozilla.
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heartofthesiskiyou Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:56 PM
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21. To find out go to
Help>>>down to About (foxfir, netscape, IE)

If there is a little (b) behind the version number it's beta
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:56 PM
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12. Umm, OK, so you hate Internet Explorer
And my life is made better knowing that because . . . ?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:59 PM
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13. Because it is the ruling class, of course
comes with Window, the place of all the viruses and worms?

And because there are other DUers who are more proficient in the art of computerese and can point me the right way
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:13 PM
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16. Ok, fine by me. I happen to like pistachio ice cream and . . .
Many people have told me I'm bat-shit crazy for that reason.

You've got me on the Ruling Class biz (fine Peter Barnes/Peter O'Toole film, by the way). But I do have to ask -- are you suggesting that there are no viruses or worms in the Mac and Linux universes? Or that the browsers you cite in your original post are similarly immune?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:26 PM
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22. Ick! You are. Cleanse your soul with Pralines.
:evilgrin:

And no. So far no viruses on Macs that I've heard of. There may have been a few, but VERY few.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:00 AM
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25. Is There a Virus Threat for Macs?
Yes, Mac and Linux are immune. Probably has nothing to do with the browsers except that IE is associated with Windows and with Microsoft and we, loyal Macusers (have been since 1987) do not like Microsoft :evilfrown:

Here is a recent column on this topic:

The Wall Street Journal

MOSSBERG'S MAILBOX
By WALTER S. MOSSBERG

Is There a Virus Threat for Macs?
May 11, 2006; Page B4


Q: There's been a lot of press lately about increased virus activity on the Macintosh platform. Should Mac owners now be running the same kinds of security software that Windows owners use?

A: There is no sudden security crisis on the Apple Macintosh platform. In fact, for average Mac users, there isn't a security threat of any significance, at least not yet. It is laughable to compare the real, massive and burdensome security problems on Windows with the largely theoretical security problem on the Mac. As I have said in the past, no operating system is invulnerable to attack, including Apple's Mac OS X operating system, which powers Macintosh computers. It is possible to write malicious software for the Mac, including viruses and spyware, and it is possible for this software to spread in the wild, infecting many Macs.

However, despite what you may have heard, this hasn't happened to any degree that matters, yet. As of today, there have been exactly two documented, successful pieces of malicious software -- viruses, trojan horses, worms -- that affected users of the Mac OS X operating system, since it was released in 2001. And these two failed to spread much, affecting probably a few dozen people, and doing no harm. I expect there to be a small number of additional Mac viruses this year.


(snip)

Security firms are saying that the discovery of these vulnerabilities in the Mac has increased sharply lately. They say that based on past patterns, this should yield a sharp increase in the number of Mac viruses in coming years. But even a "sharp" increase could well mean under 50 viruses by 2008. So my advice to Mac users is that at the moment, I see no reason to buy and run security software, which is in itself costly and can degrade your computing experience. But you should make up your own mind, based on your tolerance for risk.

(snip)

There is one exception: If you are running Windows on one of the new Intel Macs, you are just like a Windows user, and you must run Windows security programs when using Windows.



URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114729902115949440.html (subscription)


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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 11:33 AM
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32. No, Mac & Linux are NOT immune
they just have a smaller share of the market, and therefore there aren't as many reports on their vulnerabilities.

If you machine is hooked up to a network (ANY network) or if it uses removable media, you are susceptable to virii, worms and/or hackers-- regardless of the OS (Windows, Unix, Amiga, whatever).

BTW, you DO know that the first worm was created and ran on Unix workstations, right?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:35 AM
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29. Remember. That opinion comes from someone....
Who likes Yahoo!

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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:35 PM
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18. For me, Mozilla Firefox works BETTER than IE. :-) n/t
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:43 PM
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19. I only keep MSIE so that I can get XP Updates from MicroSlop.



If it weren't for that I'd have no use for it.


I never did use it very much anyhow. Used Netscape for years and then went to Mozilla Suite a while back.


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MrBadExample Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:22 AM
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28. You don't even need it for that.
There's a third-party web site that has a Windows Update-style browser plugin for Firefox. It does the same thing Windows Update does--scans your machine, looks for updates, and downloads and installs them. I've been using it for a year or so on three machines at home with no problems.

You can check it out here.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 11:03 AM
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31. Thanx for the link. I'll check it out.



And I'll add to the main thread here that anyone who uses Outlook is just begging for trouble. It is by far the preferred target of spammers and hackers.



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davepdx Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:59 AM
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27. Make Firefox report itself as IE
You can install the Firefox extension "PrefBar" which has the ability to change the user agent for your web browser. I was not able to access the web page indicated without the same warning/error. When I changed the user agent to "IE 6.0 WinXP", the page loaded up just fine.

You can get PrefBar here:
http://prefbar.mozdev.org/

After installing the extension and restarting Firefox, you will get a new toolbar (toggled with F8) that conveniently make multiple configuration options available. You can change the user agent from a drop down list.

The web page for PrefBar indicates that it works on Firefox 1.0+, but after checking the installation configuration file for the extension I see that it should install on version 1.5+ as well. I use PrefBar on the 3.0 alpha nightly builds and it works fine.

Hope this helps.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:16 PM
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33. Or get IETab
It runs an instance of IE inside of Mozilla/Firefox. All you do is click an icon on the status bar, and you've got IE. I use it for testing all the time.

But of course Opera is better than both of those. :evilgrin:
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:33 PM
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34. netscape
i have to use that to access my bank acc'ts, they won't recog mozilla.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:38 PM
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36. Did you have Java enabled on Mozilla?





..... just a thought.



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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 01:03 PM
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39. negative
i'm very paranoid about IE & java. my ex used to work for Sun, but that has nothing to do w/ my distrust for java; i've just heard horror-stories.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 12:43 PM
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37. At work, we have to use IE to report our hours
I think it's a pain in the butt.
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