Should we lobby the American Association of Realtors

[Oeditpus Rex]

to discontinue use of the term "master bedroom" on grounds of sexism?



Just a thought...

[jpgray]

1. the "slave bedroom" is a real up-seller for sado-masochist buyers

[azmouse]

2. I don't like the idea of a 'mistress bedroom'

[Aiptasia]

3. Who cares

Good lord people. I don't rush out and protest the gender of specific words. If we did stuff like that, we'd have to negate the gender conjugations of thousands of latin verbs for the sake of being P.C..

Besides, i'm a realtor and i'm set in my ways. Meh. So there.

;)

I'd rather see more people from D.U. compete/challenge the RPAC lobby (Realtor Political Action Committee)because nine times out of ten they support Repuklican advanced agendas.

Our local board of realtors gives us the option to donate a certain amount of our realtor licenseing dues to RPAC every year (kinda like donating to the presidential campaign fund on a 1040 EZ tax form), and every year I just have to decline.

Say it with me now: Awwwwwwwww....

[Kajsa]

4. We should lobby the CA Realtors

to stop artificially inflating housing prices beyond most people's means.

Hell, you can't even find a house in many urban areas for under $700,000.

Those lots are not worth that much.

Who in the hell decided a run down 2 bedroom, 1 bath house with little land
is worth &760,000. ?

:mad:

[jukes]

5. yuppy republican "flippers"

they're convinced they can buy a run-down house repo'd from HUD, slap a coat of paint on it, and retire on the proceeds.

used to be against the law to aquire those houses if you wern't going to actually live in them, but we live in a "specualtion" economy where folks believe they can get rich by investing.

witness "day-trading".

the last time america was in this position it was 1929...

[Aiptasia]

15. Yeah, but now that the bubble has burst

These "flippers" are getting caught in multiple mortgage situations, especially on second home properties.

Yeah, it's true that people do speculate on real estate. Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with that provided you're experienced at "flipping" properties in a hot market.

The beautiful ironic justice of it all, is that as soon as the residential market cools, these people get stuck with holding onto their investment properties. That means they'll have to float multiple mortgage payments or start slashing their asking prices, potentially taking a net loss, on their properties if they need to unload them.

I'm a realtor that sells 98% 2nd home vacation properties on the oceanfront, and the market here turned south in July of 2005. There are several oceanfront condo-tels here with well over 100 listings per complex at this time. I had no listing inventory at all this time last year and I couldn't hold onto a listings they were selling so fast. Now I have over 60 listings of properties from frustrated clients who can't flip them. There's a glut of properties (mostly condos) on the market in our area at this time and they're just sitting, and the prices are falling fast as people become desperate to sell their units.

Not only that, but there are several (over 20) new oceanfront condominium structures here that are almost completed. These were new buildings or converted hotel buildings that sold out 2-3 years ago in pre-construction, in the days when we had runaway appreciation and a hot seller's market here. Well, now these brand new units are finished construction, and the speculators can't flip them so easy. Not without taking a loss.

So I have several clients floating multiple loans on multiple properties and they have two choices if they have mortgages on them and intend to part with the units at this time: Slash their price to beat the competition and take a net loss, or hang onto them and hope they can afford to pay the mortgages through rental income and/or tax write offs.

BTW, smart realtors that work in second home markets "should" be schmoozing and buttering up various lenders and their foreclosure departments at this time. Like, now!

[jukes]

17. the problem

then as now, isn't speculation; it's greedy people that are full of themselves and think they understand the market based on heresay.

that leads to wild speculation, debts that can't be paid, and a collapsing house of cards.

in '29 it was catastrophic. we've been assured that can't happen again due to built in safeguards, but the assurances of this administration fail to impress.


i'm no wizard at economics, i have the barest understandings of these systems. on a personal note, i'm wary of get-rich-quick; i have no debts but my mortgage and my dinky assets are not tied up. best i can do, y i hope the picture alters in november.

[Aiptasia]

11. Realtors don't set market price, greedy homeowners do...

It's illegal for realtors to set a price on any property. We can only present people with a specific range of prices to a homeowner based on historical sales prices for homes/properties that have sold and closed recently.

It's homeowners themselves that pick a list price they're comfortable with, and if they're greedy in a "seller's market," the prices appreciate and go up.

The key is to buy in a down "buyer's" market and sell in a "seller's" up market. Real Estate prices are cyclical just like the stock market.

[reyd reid reed]

6. Well, if we take 'master' as being non gender-specific,

Like 'actor' or 'comedian' or 'author' or 'poet'...it could still work.

I'd MUCH rather be known as a 'master' than a 'mistress'...pushy brat that I am, it just suits me better.

[Oeditpus Rex]

7. Point taken — but

since the term was taken from "the master's bedroom," and in those days there was no question that it meant the guy...

Like I said, just a thought.




And the more I think of it, the dumber it seems. :blush:

[wildhorses]

8. ...

:hug:



kinda like a brain fart?

[Oeditpus Rex]

9. Nuh-uh

More like a "reco" — I should've reconsidered it before I posted. x(




And I much prefer Rd's term "thinko" to "brain fart."

[wildhorses]

12. as in thinko

stinko? and who is Rd
but, I will take this new terminology under advisement...

[Oeditpus Rex]

13. He's a mutual friend

who's rather quick with the odd word. I've copped a few from him that I use here.

[reyd reid reed]

14. Good word...

[reyd reid reed]

10. Perceptions change...

Besides, everything else has gone unisex. Hell, they've got unisex bathrooms at the mall. They call them 'family rest stations' or something like that.

And 'master' sounds more...confident. Master of all he/she surveys. 'Mistress', on the other hand, sounds more submissive...like some meek, mild, demure little thing.

HA! As If.

[Aiptasia]

16. Woah!

Unisex bathrooms at the mall? Cool... If there are no urinals for men i'll sue on sexist grounds. ;)

J/k of course.

The most interesting bathrooms (if you can call them that) i've ever seen are the outdoor urinals in The Netherlands, especially in Amsterdam. It's such a European party town that when sports fans and intoxicated tourists spill out of the bars at three in the morning, they had a problem with people just peeing in alleyways or against the nearest wall or building.

The Dutch came up with the solution: Outdoor urinals, and it's quite amusing if you're not expecting to see them. There are several streets and walking alleys in Amsterdam that have urinals against the walls. There are also these strange circular urinals that are like pie shaped. Each wedge has it's urine deposit slot and they even dispense paper urinal cups for the ladies, so they can also pee while standing up.

[In_The_Wind]

18. Nope. I like the sound of it.

After all we aren't saying master's bedroom. :shrug: