Talk about the "Alias" series finale here! *spoilers*

[Brigid]

I have never followed a TV show from beginning to end like this. "Alias" has had its ups and downs, mostly due to bad writing, but still it's been a fun ride.

[Brigid]

1. Oh, no!!

They killed off Jack! I can hardly believe it! I'm sooo heartbroken right now! :cry:

[Frank Cannon]

2. That just sucks

Well, at least he died in a cool, Jack-like way, saving his daughter and putting the screws to Sloan in the worst way possible.

[Ava]

8. that makes me mad

he was my favorite character!

[kay1864]

3. Couple things about the finale...

- Anyone else go :wtf: when Payton shot all 12 members of Prophet 5? We had just learned that P5 had spent years killing off anyone who got too close to finding out who they are. Then she walks in without even a cursory inspection of her briefcase, that contains two Uzis.

- Sydney-Irina fight: Why did Sydney, right after trying to kill her mom (okay maybe she was only going to maim her and take her into custody, who knows), then try to save her from crashing through the window? Plus, Irina doesn't even have a gun?

Loved Marshall's speech to Sloane about his son. Fitting way for Jack to go out.

[Brigid]

4. True, that was vintage Jack.

If they insisted on killing him off, at least that took some of the sting out of it. Plus, Syd and Vaughn named their little son Jack. Still, he had a very hard life, and I wanted to see the show end on a happy note for him.

Another thing, along the lines of Payton walking into a meeting of the P5 leadership and blowing them all away: Sark single-handedly kidnaps Rachel, then the next thing we know, she frees herself from her shackles with a wire from her bra, beats the crap out of a bad guy, disarms him, shoots him and at least one or two others? She couldn't get away from wimpy pretty boy Sark to begin with? :wtf:

[kay1864]

5. One other thing...

Jack, Sydney, and Vaughn are going into the most holy Rambaldi temple, and they know Sloane & co. are around...

and nobody's wearing a bulletproof vest?

Again, :wtf:

[Brigid]

6. That too.

When Sloane shot Jack, the first thing I thought was, "Please, Jack, please, please be wearing a kevlar!" But he wasn't. :cry:

[Patiod]

7. Weren't the baddies only blowing up 2 cities in order to profit

from rebuilding?

I immediately thought of Halliburton....

[Brigid]

10. Me too.

After jerking us around about Rambaldi for five seasons about Rambaldi's nonsensical scribblings and science fair projects, this is what it comes down to -- Sloane and Irina becoming the CEOs of their own version of Halliburton? Is this what they destroyed their families and anyone else who got in their way for? Is this what Jack died over? The "Alias" fan sites are lit up today, let me tell you -- and fans are not happy.

[kay1864]

16. I'm plowing through the forum on TWOP

And the sorta-consensus is that Sloane (and maybe Sark and Peyton) would be immortal, and that's what Rambaldi was "all about" (and here I thought it was the Hokey Pokey :P). Makes sense to me, who's only seen Season 4 and 5--immortality would be the ultimate goal of someone like Sloane.

Then on top of that, by dispupting the world economy, Sloane would rule the world, at least economically. And he'd get to do so forever.

I think.

However...the falling satellites explain the "stars will fall from the sky" comment, but "ruling the world" doesn't explain the "end of nature" comment.

Maybe when TWOP posts the full episode cap, this will make more sense to a relative newbie like me.

[idgiehkt]

17. I quit watching after a while

This series could have been the greatest espionage show ever, which is where I thought it was headed at first. Instead it became a rip off of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer". I have season one and two on DVD and will eventually get them all, but I thought that Abrams jerked the viewers around just for the sake of jerking them around..and I kind of got tired of it.

That's why I never started watching "Lost" either.

I liked a little Rambaldi...I mean, the epidode where she goes to see the clock-maker is one of the most touching and well done, I think, but come on...

If J.J. Abrams were a boyfriend he'd be arrested for abuse, lol.

It's just such a shame that it veered so far out when it ran parallel with the the greatest American real-life female spy drama ever... the outing of Valerie Plame. Kind of a waste. Especially the actors they had on there. I think it could have run five more years if it had stayed maybe a little closer to reality.

from my favorite episode:

[Blue_Roses]

9. I love this show but one thing that has baffled me from the beginning

is the rambaldi thing. What the hell is this suppose to be all about? Eternal life?

Profit 5 was made clear--finally and I was hoping that Sydney and her mother would reunite, but guess Irina just wouldn't have it that way...

So sad to see Jack die, but glad they did it the way they did. It did take the sting out of it.

I just love Victor Garber and Jennifer Garner. I'm gonna miss this show.

[Brigid]

12. Trying to figure out Rambaldi, are you?

Forget it. Are you familiar with the phrase "exercise in frustration?" The writers have never been able to make up their minds what they wanted to do with that. It was an intriguing subplot at first, but by season 3 it had morphed into the monster that ate "Alias." I think the problem really started when they made Sydney personally involved in the prophecy as the "chosen one," whatever that was supposed to mean. I think it would have been much more fun if they'd had Syd pick up clues along the way and solve the mystery. But first they would have decided what that mystery was to be, and do something exciting with it. Syd's personal involvement, IMO, threw things out of balance. It started in season 1 with an episode called "Q & A," in which Syd was abducted by a shady government agency, chained to a chair, and interrogated. As a hardcore civil liberties advocate, I absolutely went ballistic. Why she didn't sue that jerk Kendall until he was living in a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere, I don't know. What, these people never heard of the Constitution? And there was another episode in season 3 that had her being abducted once again, this time by the NSA, for similar reasons, taken to a secret prison, and tortured. And these episodes were aired before domestic spying, Gitmo, and the Patriot Act really started making the news. They seem eerily prescient now, even though I have refused to watche them again. They make my skin crawl.

[MissB]

11. I didn't like the finale.

It seemed really rushed. I realize that they had to cram a lot of material into two hours, but it *looked* like they had to cram a lot of material into two hours. They really needed a whole other season to finish off that last two hours.

[Brigid]

13. Exactly.

One of the biggest problems with "Alias" was that they didn't take the time to decide on the story they wanted to tell, then tell it. This is a common problem on network TV series, and on "Alias" it really showed. That's why I don't like network fictional TV. I mostly watch news, or Animal Planet, or History Channel. I've never seen "Desperate Housewives," "Lost,"or any of the other series that are so popular right now, and I don't feel that I'm missing anything. I only watched "Alias" faithfully because I adore Victor Garber, and figured that once it was over he was likely to go back to New York and work in the theater again, and this would be my only chance to see him regularly. Happily, he'll be on another show called "Justice" on FOX, which sounds promising. I'll be checking it out.

[MissB]

14. Unless I want simple mind-numbing entertainment,

I don't watch much either, with the exception of a couple of decent shows on Sci-Fi.

[Brigid]

15. "Alias" was fun at first . . .

but I only watched it faithfully because I adore Victor Garber, and figured that once this show was over he was likely to go back to New York and work in the theater again, and this would be my only chance to see him regularly. Happily, he'll be on another show called "Justice" on FOX, which sounds promising. I'll be checking it out.