Garvey, Lopes, Russell, Cey

[Oeditpus Rex]

Top that! :evilgrin:

[Blue-Jay]

1. Rose, Morgan, Bench, Griffey, Concepcion

Consider yourself topped.

[Oeditpus Rex]

2. I was referring to infields

Try again. :P

[Blue-Jay]

3. OK. Remove Griffey.

The rest are infielders, and better than the 70s Dodgers.

[Oeditpus Rex]

5. Catchers aren't infielders

:eyes:

[Blue-Jay]

10. Whatever.

:eyes: <-- see? I can be rude and dismissive too.

[reyd reid reed]

7. Tinker to Evers to Chance....

The fourth is whoever the poor sap was at the plate...

[Oeditpus Rex]

8. Folkloric fallacy

Don't make me look this up, but Tinker, Evers and Chance actually turned few double plays.

[reyd reid reed]

11. True...but they're immortal nevertheless...

And they were Cubbies.

(they averaged 95 double plays a year while they played together)

[Oeditpus Rex]

13. Where'd you find that?

Way I read it, it was in the 30s, I think. :shrug:

[reyd reid reed]

14. Google, where else?

YEAR Cubs NL Rank Leader Team AVG


1903 78 7th 111 Cardinals 90


1904 89 5th 93 3 teams 89


1905 99 T-4th 122 Reds 100


1906 100 3rd 109 Pirates 92


1907 110 3rd 128 Braves 101


1908 76 3rd 90 Braves 75


1909 95 6th 120 Reds 99


1910 110 5th 137 Braves 117


AVG. 95 5th 114 N/A 95




http://www.thedailystar.com/sports/2003/08/23/spdean.html

[Oeditpus Rex]

16. Okay, I think I got it

That chart accounts for all double plays turned by the Cubs in those years. Tinker to Evers to Chance (or 6-4-3 if you're scoring at home) wouldn't have made all of them — particularly in that era of short fences and shallow-playing outfielders. (Ty Cobb had a few unassisted double plays.)

[HuskerDU]

28. The fourth would actually be Harry Steinfeldt. He was the 3rd

basemen during the T to E to C days.

I only caught the end of the Big Red Machine. It was Bench at 3rd, Concepcion at SS, Ron Oester at 2nd, and Rose at first. I think Tony Perez was already on the Expos, and Joe Morgan had joined the Wheeze kids in Philly when I first watched the Reds.

That Dodger infield was a fine one indeed. Those guys must've played together for 10 years.

[Blue_Tires]

22. "Concepcion? is his first name Elmer?...."

because everytime I read their boxscore I see E-Concepcion!"


I don't remember who said it, but that still remains one of the greatest one-liners ever uttered by a pro athlete....

[maveric]

4. Bird, Parrish, McHale, Ainge, Johnson.

Oh...only infielders? Ooops!

[Oeditpus Rex]

6. You got too many white dudes

for an NBA team, anyway. :P

[maveric]

9. But they got it done.

Arguably the best starting five ever. Problem was that the Celtic bench sucked and the guys I mentioned ended up playing 46 minutes a game. Thats how The Lakers got them. Fresh legs off the bench.

[Oeditpus Rex]

12. I don't even remember back then

Couldn't tell you the Lakers' starting five.

My glory days were with West, McMillian, Chamberlain, Goodrich and Hairston, and Elgin Baylor's bad knees.

[maveric]

15. Robinson, Belanger, Johnson, Powell.

That was a great infield.

[Oeditpus Rex]

18. I hate you

for reminding me of 1966. :grr:

[MrBenchley]

25. Amen to that!

[IntravenousDemilo]

17. Now batting, Number Three...

The larch...

The... larch...

On deck, Number Twelve...

The larch...

The... larch...

[Oeditpus Rex]

19. Batting third, number 206

the Horse Chestnut.

[Random_Australian]

20. Bob, Frank, George & what are we all talking about? Actors or singers

or something?

[Blue_Tires]

21. probably not even the best or most famous dodgers combo...

what about Cox, Reese, Robinson, Hodges? ('51 Dodgers)

and even though NO ONE will ever give them love (myself included): Gruber, Lee, Alomar, Olerud ('92 Jays)

But what for my money is the best will be Oberkfell, Smith, Herr, Hernandez ('82 cards)


fwiw i give more credit to combos that had to play on carpet (especially that crappy, first-generation carpet)

[tool_of_the_people]

23. My Cubbies

Banks, Beckert, Santo & Kessinger

'69 was mighty fine.

[MrBenchley]

24. Brian Doyle and Bucky Dent...

Ha-HA

[NNadir]

26. Man, it would be hard to top those guys in whining and crying!!!!

Actually they were quite good at certain things, though.

Steve Garvey was great on lecturing on family values while screwing every babe who walked by. Another Garvey skill is proving that even dumb guys can be mentioned as Senate Candidates in California, not really a surprise, especially because he was the original 'puke. When Murdoch bought the team, it was surprising that he didn't bring Garvey back in some capacity, like Manager or General Manager. Garvey is certainly up to Fox News standards. Mostly he runs up big bills and skips out of town these days, but also runs informercials for snake oil diet loss products that are basically useless. (Enforma)

Sore loser Davey Lopes, is mostly notable for his managerial decision to threaten to order his pitchers to bean Ricky Henderson on the grounds Henderson stole a base while Henderson's team was kicking Lopes's team's ass.

I think 1978 is the only World Series that the Yankees won that I look back at fondly. After winning the first two games, Garvey et al, went into this vast strut, egged on by the Los Angeles media, possibly then the most gutless baseball media on the face of the earth. (I really felt bad for Tom Neidenfuer for having to talk to those guys - according to them, Jack Clark could only hit Home runs if the pitcher lobbed the ball at them. Neidenfuer did show himself to be true Dodger blue; he let his career go in the toilet because of two blown saves in the NCLS series) Nobody seems to have informed this class of morons that it takes four games to win the World Series. I think they sulked for about a decade when Reggie Jackson broke the news that it indeed takes 4 games.

[Arkham House]

27. Hmmm...how about the "$100,000 infield"--

--of Connie mack's Athletics, in 1911-14? McInnis, Collins, Barry and Baker? Collins and Baker are both two of the best ever at their positions, and the other guys were at least solid players. As for your guys--they were OK, I'm not putting them down. The longest-lasting infield ever deserves respect. But Garvey was a little overrated--he made a *lot* of outs, and his MVP was a joke--Jimmy Wynn should have won it in '74...Lopes was a slightly-less skilled version of Joe Morgan...Russell was OK, and Cey was underrated--but then, every third baseman in history except for Traynor and Brooks has been underrated. They were good enough to help win several division titles, and a World Series. But if you put a gun to my head, I'd have to vote for Rose-Morgan-Concepcion-Perez...

[KatyMan]

29. Rose, Trillo, Bowa, Schmidt

or Berkman Biggio Everett Ensberg...

yeah, I'm a homer....

[Oeditpus Rex]

30. We're all homers to some extent

But you're a baseball fan, so it's okay. :toast:

Garvey, Lopes, Russell and Cey are my best infield. They may not be the best, but that's okay too.

Welcome to DU. :hi:

[peekaloo]

31. Caminiti, Biggio, Bagwell

brain fart on shortstop(s)

[Ken Burch]

32. I'd go along with all those except Garvey

It doesn't take any real defensive skill to play first base. That, and Garvey was a total asshole from everything I've heard.
Lopes, Cey and Russell were great, though. They all seemed like real shot and a beer working class guys, and they just showed up and did the job with no celebrity jock bullshit.