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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:21 AM
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What sport would you outlaw, if you could?
And pro wrestling doesn't count, because it AIN'T a sport. :P

For me, it'd be professional boxing.
The promoters are so corrupt they stink, they "use up" boxers then throw them out.

Agree? Disagree?

Any others?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:54 AM
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1. Horse and Dog racing...
cock and dog fighting....some states do outlaw fighting and dog racing.

I wouldn't outlaw human sports, because people choose to participate :hi:
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smitty Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:00 PM
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36. Sports involving animals.
By their natures, animals cannot give consent to their participation.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:05 PM
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37. Tell that to my sled dogs.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
57. Recreational mushing is fine with me....
However, BIG BUCK races like the Iditarod pith me off. I'm glad there's a movement to shut it down.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:23 PM
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64. LOL!
"Big buck?" :D

Pretty ignorant about Iditarod. Mushing, too, sounds like. :hi:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:48 PM
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66. LOL....
I.am.not.ignorant.about.the.Iditarod. Major animal cruelty/abuse.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:02 PM
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69. No, you're wholly ignorant. It's quite apparent.
I've worked on several. You?

"Big Bucks" was the giveaway ... Iditarod winner this year took home a $75K purse and a new truck. Spent $60K running the race. It's a guess, but that kennel should cost between $40K and $75K annually to operate. 'Round about 12th place, purse drops near $10K and below. Friend of mine won $1,200.

Spent any time with Iditarod mushers? Some are huge dickwads. But even the dickwads -- especially, rather, the dickwads -- take more care with their animals than anyone I've met outside of that world.

You want a cutting edge vet? Iditarod. You want the most researched diets? Iditarod. You want to see animals and humans working together? You want to see trust on a deeper level -- and I'm talking about trusting the dogs, here -- than anyplace else on earth?

Or do you want to pretend you have any idea what takes place between a musher and his dogs?

I had a dog who could crawl into his own harness, and would do so in the morning, sit by my bed, and wait for my sorry ass to wake up at a leisurely 5 a.m. to go for a run.

His sister completed Iditarod last year.

If you want to try to perpetuate the cruelty to sled dogs myth, ESPECIALLY at Iditarod, play somewhere where no one's been there. Because it won't play in front of me.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:15 PM
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72. OK, I'll play...here:
http://www.helpsleddogs.org/faq.htm

This is all I need to know :hi:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:28 PM
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79. Don't bother checking for yourself, then.
If you did, you'd find the site's creator has been thoroughly outed as a liar in AK, and was kicked off Wikipedia for lack of citations, sockpuppeting, and removing content.

Margery Glickman lives in Miami, and is a nutjob. She told Salon in 2002 the Disney movie "Snow Dogs" was going to convince children they should bite one another's ears to assert dominance.

And you're rather buying into it. Shame.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:40 PM
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84. Sources ?
I'm a friend of Ms. Glickman's :hi:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:54 PM
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85. She knows as much about sled dogs
...as I know about offshore powerboat racing. Which is what I read somewhere once.

You can use Google as well as anyone else, I'm sure. And I'm sorry to say your friend is, at best, misguided.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:00 PM
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87. No, I need your sources...
You see, I believe her, and if you can prove her wrong, I'll be happy to take a look. Thanks.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:29 PM
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96. ...
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:32 PM
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165. The Official Iditarod website....?
...corporate sponsored, which pays for the veterinary expertise :sigh:

BTW, the modern Iditarod isn't anything like the original medical run they want us to believe they're honoring :cry:



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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:24 PM
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167. Whatever...
I've been witnessing Iditarod races for 30 years, and I've never yet seen a dog that wasn't more than excited to get out on the trail. Witness the mushers with their dogs and you can see how much they're loved. My guess is the Iditarod dogs are treated and cared for much better than a lot of house puppies. And Robb is right - the mushers aren't in it for the money, but for the love of the sport.

But you're entitled to your opinion, as we are to ours.

Peace.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:47 PM
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169. My dear Blue_Ak.....
You haven't witnessed the "lower-than-pond-scum-dog-breeders-kill-the-slow-ones" of this "sport" !?!?....those doggies never made the *starting" line of this *sport*.

Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining....any *sport* that includes an animal, means more DIE for human pleasure/sport/???
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:37 PM
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97. I'll meet you halfway
This woman has done a balanced job here and here of addressing much myth that has been repeated. I say balanced, in that I don't agree with all her findings, for example the winning kennels use dog barns rather than tie-outs.

Don't miss this vet who's study was misquoted, and a trip to Jeff King's kennel.

King's impressive, but no Martin Buser, who crossed the finish line in 2003 and unhooked his dogs in the finish area, rolling around and playing with them, giving interviews while the pups went out to meet the crowd, then a single whistle brought them crowding around him, jumping up, as he walked them to the truck.

Cruel fellow that he is. ;)

I'll also apologize for my behavior; you know how a lot of folks here react to LaRouche support? I'm that way with this.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:22 PM
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164. Your links are corporate sponsored :(((
Sun Huskey is a nemesis of mine when I "worked" for ARO. She trashed me also :cry:

Like I said, animal protectionists don't have a problem with recreational mushing, as long as the dogs aren't overworked, destroyed for lack of spirit, and get to be part of their human family. You know, a family sport, like we have for human kids!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:54 PM
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170. Your NEMESIS is a SCHOOL TEACHER?!?
:rofl:

I'll look forward to the final battle between good and evil taking place in homeroom during recess. Good luck with that.

I'm done. :D
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #69
92. Right on, Robb...
Here's an Iditapuppy just for you...



and Jeff King, this year's winner

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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:28 PM
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54. Tell that to my racehorses. nt
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:33 PM
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59. We're trying n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #36
56. Exactly....
but what happens to the losers !? Oh, I forgot about Bullfighting...sport?
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:07 AM
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2. For the first time in my life I went to a pro boxing match a couple
of years ago. The top card was Merciless Ray Mercer vs somebody I had never heard of. Anyway, the action of the first few bouts was very intense. Probably the most intense sporting action I had ever seen live in person.

At the end of one of the undercard fights, both fighters raised their hands in triumph even though it was clear that one of them had been beaten badly. During the Mercer fight, the PA guy asked the ringside doctor to go help the fighter who had just lost the previous fight.

I found out the next morning that the fighter who needed treatment died that night.

I don't wanna outlaw much of anything. I consider myself somewhat of a leftwing libertarian. But it was sure a sick feeling to know that a man had died trying to earn a living entertaining sports fans like myself.

Heck, I didn't even pay to attend the fight. I worked the door for my temp agency and got free tix for my trouble. But regardless, it was a very sick feeling to know that the boxer's family would be one person short, just because of sports entertainment.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:14 AM
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21. If boxing is a legitimate sport they should require head gear.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #21
71. It should be optional.
It's optional in full-contact karate for adults (more brutal than boxing) and so it should be optional in boxing.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:32 AM
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103. headgear is worse
you can't move your head fast enough to get away from punches. You get hit a lot more with it. It isn't one blow that does damage, the accumulation does. Headgear is good for sparring and shorter 3 round amateur bouts, but for a ten or twelve round fight it would cause a guy to absorb way more hard punches than they would otherwise. Taking punishment is a bad deal either way, there isn't anything here outside of outlawing boxing that would be a satisfactory answer for those who are concerned about that type of violent punishment. Boxing by nature is going to get violent at times. Not much can be done about that besides wearing gloves and having rules, unless it's abolished altogether.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:13 PM
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128. Headgear does not prevent majority of knockouts
This is how a knockout happens (usually) - a boxer gets hit on the jaw, the jaw acts as a lever spinning the head around. The brain sits in fluid inside the head. The brain does not spin at the same rate ( a little delayed) as the skull. The brain comes in contact with the skull. This causes a concussion which causes a lack of consciousness (all the way from getting your bell rung to lack of motor control to unconsciousness).

All the headgear does is protect the wearer from cuts and also cushions the blow a little on non-knockout punches as well as protect the hands of the puncher.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:13 PM
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70. Yeah, so what a boxer died?
Before you flame me, I've competed in full-contact martial arts before. In order to get a black belt, we ABUSE people pretty much. The boxer knows what he's getting into and you basically sign your life away before a fight. Even in non-contact martial arts events, I'd have to sign a bunch of waivers basically stating that if I became paralyzed or got killed, no one involved could be held responsible.

You sign that waiver, you sign your life away. Done deal. You know what you're doing. If you're not prepared for that, stick to table tennis.

Do I want to see fighters die? No. Is it sad? Yes. Does it mean that boxing needs more regulation or to be banned? HELL FUCKING NO!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #70
143. Hey!
I've had some life-threatening table tennis injuries, lemme tell ya! Those corners are sharp.

O' course, this is really a factor only in full-contact table tennis.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #143
144. Actually, I ended up bleeding TWICE while playing air hockey.
Sure, I could beat up and out run my 13-year-old step-brother, without breaking a sweat or raising my heart rate, but he is a force to be reckoned with in air hockey.
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HuskerDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #70
156. I'm sorry that I did not make my point clear. I would not
outlaw boxing. I just felt it was a real shame that a guy died trying to entertain a tent full of sports fans.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:15 AM
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3. Figure Skating.
It's nothing but a waste of a perfectly good hockey rink. :evilgrin:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:21 AM
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6. With scenes like these, I don't blame you!


That is not figure skating.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:44 AM
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12. Hey, babyyyyy...
:evilgrin:
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
34. how about NUDE figure skating...?
it'd put a whole new perspective on a camel spin.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:53 PM
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115. Wow. Let's burn the libraries while we at at it.
They waste space that could be used for something loud and obnoxious. Figure skaters are 100x the athletes that hockey players are. I guess it is not a sport because it does not divide people into winners and losers.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:16 AM
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4. The sex olympics.
:rofl:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:18 PM
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94. When I was in HS, a friend highly recommended that video
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:20 AM
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5. anything that involves the use of fossil fuels
we need more conservation in this country.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:35 PM
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62. I think a car in the Indy 500 used veggie oil ?
Wonder how they did?

Though I don't think Nascar is close to switching over?
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:26 AM
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107. Open wheel cars already use
Methanol to power their engines, rather than regular gas, next year they will go to 100% Ethanol.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:52 AM
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7. Rodeo, dog racing, horse racing and that Ultimate Fighting stuff.
Just not into watching abuse.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:12 AM
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10. And certainly add bullfighting to that list.
Bullfighting is grotesque. I don't care how you can justify it.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #10
31. And don't forget hunting. The cruelest of sports,
if you want to call it a "sport."
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:45 PM
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44. How could I forget bullfighting? I think any sport that involves animals
right down to sled dog races should be outlawed.

Actually, I think that I could let non-professional polo pass. Usually, I think those horses are likely spoiled rotten and probably rarely get ridden too hard. I don't know though.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:46 PM
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63. Animals really don't have a choice.....
when you think of it, a lot of animal abuse is involved in those "sports". Even *fishing* can be cruel :cry:

Oh, and dog *shows* which begat the puppy mill industry :cry:

Sorry, I got verklempt. Carry on :snork:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:23 PM
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75. Ultimate fighting is not abuse.
MMA (mixed martial arts) contain some of the best athletes on the planet. The people involved do it by choice and they're the most well-rounded martial artists around. I'm probably biased though because I have friends that compete in MMA and I'd probably do it myself, if there were more opportunities for women in it.

Even if you're not doing MMA, unless you're in some pussy buy-a-black-belt Tae Kwon Do school, you will be subject to extreme physical tests and pain to become a black belt.

As a Ni-Dan (2nd degree black belt), it is fucking worth it. We will weed out the weak. No one is there unless they want to be there. In my school, you also cannot get a black belt before 17, because we consider it a responsibility only to be given to an adult. On average, you study for seven years before getting a black belt, you're required to be a brown belt (belt before black) for three years before testing for black. We're very rough in my school and you know what...

The UFC fighters are among the best trained fighters on the planet...ranking up with Muay Thai Kickboxing, which I would consider FAR more brutal...and it should still never be outlawed.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:26 PM
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135. I should have been more specific
I'd like to not have it on television. I think that it's a little brutal to be on prime time. Just my opinion. I also agree, they are incredible athletes with incredible skills, all of whom could kick my ass. I know it's voluntary, and maybe "ban" is too strong a word here, and I should retract what I said about an all-out ban of it.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:41 AM
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104. Ultimate fighting is pretty safe
outside of some bloody noses and some basic injuries here and there. A fight is a fight, it's often not too pretty, but it's probably easier on a person's body than say football is.

Most rodeo animals are unbelievably well taken care of. A few things I have seen though, just jerk my chain a little. I don't approve of the use of hotshots. I'm not a big fan of steer wrestling. Calf roping and team roping stem from a real world practicality, because they involve activities that a cowboy actually has to do on a ranch. But, I know calf roping seems pretty painful to the animal, when they are initially roped. I have never seen a calf seriously hurt though, but at the same time, I never competed in it, because I just don't like that sort of thing.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:58 AM
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8. Professional golf.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:09 AM
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9. Boo :)
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:20 AM
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24. As someone once said: "Golf is a nice walk ruined."
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:33 PM
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42. I like Rosie O'Donnell's take on golf.
It's men in ugly pants walking.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:15 PM
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39. Bad use of a good lawn
:)
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:14 PM
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49. Oh, yes: The sport to watch grass grow.
:crazy:

:hide:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:15 PM
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90. Hell yeah! Good idea!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:41 AM
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11. Rodeo
Edited on Mon May-29-06 10:54 AM by LeftyMom
There's a great deal of abuse involved and it's very dangerous to humans who participate as well.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:46 AM
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13. No professional sports could be owned as profit-making businesses
They would all have to be owned by the cities where they were based, a la the Green Bay Packers, and all the players would have to be already living in the area when they were recruited.
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:47 AM
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14. Bull fighting.
:grr:
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:14 PM
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129. Agreed
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #14
171. Easy choice, and the right one.
Awful spectacle.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:48 AM
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15. Racing.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 11:30 AM by Fox Mulder
All racing...from NASCAR to horse racing (I don't mind people racing on foot or with bikes, though). I'd also love to see the rodeo banned as well as hunting and fishing (if you consider hunting/fishing a sport...I don't).

Basically any sport that uses or involves animals I'd love to see banned.
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:48 AM
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16. Hockey and Basketball just need to go. Sorry.
Flame away.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:49 PM
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47. Get bent, hockey is a true sport
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:16 PM
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91. Maybe for Canadians. It's your guys' version of soccer.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:50 AM
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17. any sport that uses animals
...is not a sport because whether they're treated well or abused, the animals are not willing participants. Humans can choose to be stupid and exacerbate their brain damage, so let 'em knock themselves out!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:52 AM
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18. Hey, you know what?
:yourock:
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:34 PM
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43. Hey, thanx!
Yoo Too :bounce:
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blockhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:28 PM
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55. try telling my Lab he can't go hunting with me,
a very willing participant
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:33 PM
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60. Is what you're hunting choosing to participate?
It isn't a sport if they can't shoot back.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:17 AM
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109. Right. It isn't a sport because the other side
doesn't know there is a game going on.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:52 PM
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114. Do you eat what you hunt?
Then, even as a pescarian, I have far more respect for you than carnivores that could never hunt, but will sit down and eat a packaged steak.

I'll eat fish. I know that I can kill and clean a fish (and I have). I'm not sure if I could do that with other animals, and so I don't eat them.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:18 PM
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131. What about dog obediance sports?
Like border collie herding or retreiving contests. Those dogs have herding, retreiving bred into them. They seem to really enjoy it.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:04 PM
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136. Yeah, we have bred dogs
for all sorts of functions. However, do you really think sledding in Alaska, herding sheep and evening hunting your dinner is considered a SPORT??????

Maybe there are competitions for such activites now, but initially the relationship between Man and Dog was of mutual necessity and advantage. Now...fox hunting and greyhound racing are heinous because there's nothing to them except sick entertainment.

Oscar Wilde on foxhunting: It's the Unspeakable in pursuit of the Inedible
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:07 AM
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146. It is not sick entertainment, it is appreciating their beauty
If an animal is game...


I don't exactly have the moral high ground here, I go to cock fights.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:04 AM
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19. Basketball
but it would have to be retroactive to when I was a kid, and go dragged to my dad's and my brother's games every damned weekend.

And my family's idea of fun was a Sunday at the Palestra for "Big 5" basketball (Villanova, St. Joe's, Penn, Temple, Penn and someone else, with everyone yelling at top volume and decible level hovering around 120. And I have/had sensitive ears (I wear earplugs to go to my favorite concerts)

When I die, I'll know if I'm in hell if it's the Palestra for a Villanova/St. Joe's game....
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:06 AM
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20. Cricket
The tedium -- my God! It just goes on and on and nothing happens and people applaud gently and still it goes on. Then you wake up the next day and they're still playing the same bloody game.
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:29 PM
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98. You haven't seen 20/20 have you?
Now that's hardly boring - it's a game often played at night, just 20 overs a side.

A lot of people in India and Pakistan and Australia would vehemently disagree with you; to them cricket is a religion.

Test cricket? Yep, boring as heck at times... especially yes it goes on for days.

Baseball: World series where the Americans seem to always win.
Cricket: World series where the American's don't even take part.

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gpandas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:16 AM
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22. boxing
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:17 AM
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23. Soccer.
Just because.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:22 AM
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25. no no no
Soccer is a great sport.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:33 PM
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33. Soccer???? Vinnie Jones would like a word with you.
Edited on Mon May-29-06 12:36 PM by Nailzberg



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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:50 AM
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110. ...who?
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:25 AM
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159. Notorious FA Premier League footballer
Vinnie would not take kindly to your banning soccer. He was once yellow carded after only 3 seconds of play.



He retired and used his tough guy persona to pursue an acting career. (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, or most recently, as Juggernaut in X-Men 3.)

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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:45 PM
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45. Strongly seconded.
It's impossible to avoid over here - and I've disliked it for years and years and years. :grr:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:15 PM
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50. Soccer drives me wacko.
Agreed.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:28 AM
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26. Golf
It's a huge waste of water and land, and the chemicals used are appalling. :(
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:34 AM
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27. Oh, DEFINITELY football.
Boring, overly drawn-out, and it has sucked the very lifeblood from generation after generation of male spectators.

Get off the sofa, guys! There's a whole world out there waiting for you!!!!
It may not feature bulky sweaty men in clingy lycra pants, but it's still very, very interesting!!! :D
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:08 AM
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147. Yeah, 20 Sundays a year is really preventing me from seeing the world.
:eyes:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:11 AM
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150. I watch football AND...
Get this!

I've traveled Europe several times.

How did I ever find the time?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:37 AM
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160. NFL Europe games don't count
:silly:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #160
161. All the games I've seen were either from...
a bar in NJ (most likely), somebody's house in NJ, or Giants Stadium (which Jets fans continue to wreck for Giants fans).
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 01:39 PM
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166. The Jets need to move back to Shea Stadium
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:08 PM
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28. Nascar...
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:25 PM
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95. ME TOO!!
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:55 PM
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116. Ditto
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:58 PM
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132. Ditto.
It kills and maims people.

It wastes gas and promotes the wasting of gas by people who watch it.

I don't get it. Absolutely don't understand the popularity.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:23 PM
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29. Curling.....
The entire Human Race is shamed by it's sheer silliness. :silly:
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:27 PM
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78. Curling needs to be destroyed.
By any means necessary. Most boring sport EVER!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #78
86. Agreed.
If I can do it, it's not a sport. :D
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:35 PM
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111. If the sport involves a "broom," it is not a sport. nt
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:32 PM
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30. Boxing
A boxer can win by knocking out their opponent. Being knocked out is rather unhealthy as is receiving repeated blows on most parts of the body. There are other sports where an athlete might get injured in participating in their sport but the point of boxing is to injure your opponent.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:28 PM
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80. It's the boxer's choice to participate.
Yes, it's dangerous, but that's the risk you take.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:33 PM
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32. Extreme boxing, dog and cock fighting.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #32
77. What the hell is extreme boxing?
I'm a huge fan of fighting sports and I have never heard of this.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #77
106. Wrong word. Should have said ultimate fighting. Too many guys

getting seriously injured to suit me.
I saw one video where I guy got his bell
rung so bad he had a very serious concussion.

If a guy is standing and concussed he should be
rung out. Those ulimate guys are too tough for
their own good.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:47 PM
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35. nascar and boxing.
nt
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:08 PM
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38. Cricket,golf,basketball..what a bore..lala
:evilgrin:
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 01:27 PM
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40. must name three, and they go hand in hand in hand.
bullfighting and "sport" hunting and rodeos. there is absolutely no need for humans to use the pain and death of animals as "entertainment".

i don't give a damn what humans do to each other in the name of "sport", but any other living species should be off limits.


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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:28 PM
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41. Anything that has parimutuel betting
This means, in the US, that I'd ban horse racing, dog racing, and jai alai. They're all dangerous and corrupt.

Parimutuel betting is here defined as a practice where bets are made and collected at the sporting venue on the sport being played at that venue, and the venue's not in Nevada or Atlantic City. We've got to say this because you can go to Harrah's in Vegas and bet on how long it's gonna take that little old lady to get across Fremont Street.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 04:46 PM
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46. Synchronized Swimming. n/t
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WoodyTobiasJr Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 06:13 PM
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48. No question - it begins and ends with rodeo
And this is coming from someone in Calgary to boot!

I would also say hunting & fishing but they are hardly sports
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SethInUpstateNY Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:06 PM
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51. Pro boxing, NASCAR, golf, and
soccer.
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WannaBePassingFair Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:07 PM
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52. NASCAR
it is boring and pointless.
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jakefrep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:25 PM
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53. Ultimate fighting
If I want to watch bar brawls, I'll go to the bar. Same goes for those "Toughman" contests.

Failing that, competitive eating.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:31 PM
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82. Toughman sucks, but UFC has some of the best trained fighters.
They are artists. They are not bar brawlers. If you know the martial arts, you'd recognize their ability. They're the most well-rounded fighters around. The only others that equal them in "toughness" is the Muay Thai kickboxers, who I also have extreme respect for.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:49 PM
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125. Who cares how trained they are?
Because sooner or later one guy gets the other down in the missionary position and starts pounding the other guy with his elbows or beating his face like Ralphie in A Christmas Story.

OK, that's my little dig at UFC. I just had to say something snarky.

I guess if you don't care to see two people fight, it doesn't matter how good they are.

I wouldn't ban it though.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:17 PM
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93. I've never found bars to be that conducive to brawls. Keep UFC!
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:32 PM
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58. I'm gonna get killed but football
I could give a rats ass about it and everyone around is so emotionally invested in it.
I wanna say hey the Kc Chiefs never win ain't ever gonna win so quit setting yourself up for disappointment
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:25 PM
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76. You rock
:thumbsup:
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:33 PM
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83. coming from one who rocks herself
thank you.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:29 PM
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81. My Son in law is a high school football coach
and we go to a lot of the games. My heart stops every time one of the kids ends up lying on the ground writhing in pain, or worse yet, motionless. With the competition increasing each year, much more is expected physically from these kids, and the risk of serious injury increases as well. BTW, SIL is an excellent coach who takes safety seriously with his players.

I don't think I would eliminate it, but I personally prefer seeing a sport with more skill and less "collision".

P.S. Please don't tell SIL that I am writing this :)
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edwin Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #58
121. YES, so we can finally
start calling soccer by its proper name!
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:29 PM
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122. second that!
Football fans are truly pathetic! They make trekkies look mentally and socially balanced. It's just a recreational sport Get a life!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:31 PM
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124. Is this a bad time to say...
I was once on ESPN.com wearing a Giants jersey and throwing an Eagles jersey in front of moving traffic after we all stepped on it?
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:19 PM
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126. should I mention then
I was once on the front page of USA Today wearing a stormtrooper costume at a convention?
touche
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 07:34 PM
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61. I was ready to say boxing as well
and then I realised that there are too many bloodsports which feature animals who didn't ask to be involved in such degradation that often results in their brutal deaths. So anything that involves animals is barbaric enough to hate completely.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:26 PM
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65. Baseball
Mostly because of the self righteousness of the fans.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:52 PM
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67. Boxing
I don't have a problem with guys beating the hell out of each other or blood. Kinda turns me on really. But boxing makes me sick. I just hate it.

I don't mind a little violence in it's proper place ....but for cash? And you know how boxers end up? Serious neck and spinal injuries, pseudo Parkinsonism. Brain damage. And people cheer!

That is the one sport I would outlaw. Machismo at it's worst. And it's racist. How many white boxers compared to black boxers, huh? And all the up and coming Latino boxers? Funny how the boxers are mostly "ethnic" while the people who run it are mostly white.

Ok, I'll admit it shows skill and courage and ability. But I still find it disgusting.

Khash.
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AccessGranted Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 08:59 PM
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68. Curling
It's foolishness.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:18 PM
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73. But no animals died for Curling :)
Otherwise, foolish is as humans do :hi:
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:08 PM
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89. I like the way you think.
:hi: :thumbsup:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:20 PM
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74. Golfing. I'm with George Carlin - turn all the golf courses into
graveyards.

Fuck golf and fuck all the fucking elitest asshole golfers.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 10:02 PM
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88. Hunting.
The day the animals are equally equipt with weapons
and the ability to use them is the day they can call it
a sport!!

Until then, it's cold blooded murder.
:mad:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:33 PM
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139. You know, the auto body shops would love anti-hunting people like you.
Supporting measures that would give them a whole hell of a lot more buisness from people involved car/deer accidents.

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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:32 PM
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141. That's a very unusual way to
look at it.

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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:34 PM
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99. Darts. Bowls. Snooker. Tiddlywinks.
Well Tiddlywinks isn't a sport it's more of a game but hey I threw that one in there for fun.

I'd definitely ban darts. Basically because all they're doing is chucking these thin little lethal weapons at a board continually... they drink beer... and get fat.

I'd also definitely ban bowls. It's more tedious than cricket, heck watching paint drying is more fun.

Snooker I'd also ban. With pool they're going pot pot pot - the balls go into the hole and they are just going there and whacking it. With snooker they take ages just to line up one shot, sometimes getting funny cue extensions and bridges to be able to get to the ball, and all they do is miss the shot! Takes too long... should be able to whack the balls.

FYI I have played all the above sports and I am absolutely useless at all of them. Since I am useless at them, I might as well ban them.

Mark.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:18 AM
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100. sorry...fans...
but Nascar...sorry...:( wait wait!!! I change my vote...GOLF, yes! Golf must go...bye bye golf, golf golf....GOLF MUST DIE!!!!....
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Ava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:19 AM
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101. boxing
i just don't see what's so great about two people knocking the crap out of each other.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:43 AM
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105. it's pretty fun though
it's competition. People thrive on that one on one dimension. It dates back to our savage instincts. :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:26 PM
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134. Yeah I agree with that
I always did enjoy watching with my grandfather as a kid though if I ever did it I'd get my ass whomped.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:57 PM
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117. As someone who has competed in full-contact karate...
because it's seriously fun as hell. Is it fun as hell for everyone? No. Do I love fighing? Hell FUCKING yeah! Do I fight outside of a ring? No. If you don't like it, don't watch it. There's no reason for it to be banned.

I consider myself basically a pacifist. I'm against wars and violent crimes. Two consenting skilled fighters exhibiting skill, nothing wrong with it.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:22 AM
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102. Boxing, and any other "sport" that abuses animals.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:32 AM
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108. Jailai
Lousy Jailai players... think they're so great...
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:41 PM
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112. Definately, Curling.
I don't want to watch people polish ice!

:wtf:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 12:47 PM
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113. Dwarf tossing
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:11 PM
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118. Hey, how else are they supposed to fly
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:14 PM
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119. You probably have the same attitude
About dynamite fishing.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:21 PM
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120. WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE BLAST!!
:nuke:
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:30 PM
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123. Boxing - no other "sport" has brain injury as its goal


And I don't buy the "it's their choice" either. It might also be some girl's choice to enter into a life of prostitution to escape poverty, but that doesn't make it a wonderful choice.


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RedStateShame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:03 PM
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127. ALL COLLEGIATE SPORTS
It's an institution of higher learning, not a place to show off one's games skills. That, or I demand all universities offer full-ride scholarships in Beating Resident Evil 2 on the First PlayStation, making hand-fart noises, and/or whiskey drinking. What do they have to education? Absolutely nothing!! But last I checked, neither is putting a ball in a hole.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:37 PM
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140. Full ride scholarships for whiskey drinking?
UWSP practically offers those already.

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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:14 PM
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130. It's a tossup
Boxing or NASCAR.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:21 PM
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133. So, to whom shall I turn in my liberal card?
I play golf, and I've been known to enjoy horse racing and some other sports listed here. I guess that makes y'all more liberal than me.

I cannot stand lists like this, and I can't stand being told what to like and what not to like. It smacks of moral superiority and rankles me to no end.
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:06 PM
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137. Jackpot!
:)
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 06:20 PM
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138. Frayed clothesline hopping.
I hate that sport.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 08:34 PM
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142. Auto racing and golf
Use that gas for something productive!

Golf - use that land for something productive. I like George Carlin's idea of turning golf courses into homeless shelters.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:29 PM
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145. Soccer...a more boring sport I cannot imagine...
Makes golf look like non-stop action...

Ninety minutes running up and down the field...almost no scoring...

I mean how many sports have so many 0-0 ties!!!

Ugh
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:09 AM
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148. equestrian diving
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:12 AM
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151. Is that even a sport? nt
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:14 AM
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152. somehow I doubt it
so instead I'll say, Greco-Roman Fucking. Or maybe water tennis. I don't like any of those. x(
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:34 AM
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153. Oh come on...
Greco-Roman Fucking is a jolly good time.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:10 AM
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149. Some animal sports.
I would outlaw cock and pitbull fighting (already illegal just about everywhere), dog racing (but not sledding), and bull fighting.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:36 AM
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154. That thing with the sticks those Grateful Dead fans do
Those people should go to jail.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:42 AM
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155. Hey! I'm really good at that!
And I'm not a hippie either.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:20 AM
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157. sorry, jailbird
Away you go!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:22 AM
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158. I hope not.
I could theoretically end up in jail soon. Probably not, but it all depends on how much of a dick the army decides to be.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:05 AM
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162. Dodgeball. Cruel and unusual punishment.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:07 AM
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163. Fox News did a special on it a couple months ago.
Oh wait...that was tag. Anyway, they did a special, "Tag: Innocent Childhood Fun or DANGEROUS GAME?" It was on the tv in the bar...even my Republican (although now HATES Bush) friend said, "Um...last time I checked, there was a WAR. Why the hell are the running a special on the possible perils of tag?"
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 02:51 PM
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168. Boxing-it makes me sad to see Ali these days
When I was a kid, Muhammed Ali was held up as a role model to all kids. My hippie elementary teachers all loved him for his refusal to be drafted.

He was so quick and always had a smart answer for the media. He even had a cartoon and a theme song!

Now I see him and his difficulty talking, I just want to cry. I know his intellect is still intact-he writes letters to the editor of Detroit papers regarding children's issues once in a while. I know that the claim is that he has Parkinson's, but it seems to me he has brain damage from taking too many punches to the head.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:39 PM
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172. Hunting With A Bow And Arrow

As archaic as it is barbaric. Animals suffer a slow, agonizing death, many of them never recovered by jerk-offs who don't know how to track game.

Why participate in a "sport" that has Ted Nugent as its poster boy?
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