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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 11:22 AM
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White Trash Vegan Cooking #2- Shepherd’s Pie
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 11:28 AM by LeftyMom
I want to preface this entry by saying that this recipe is one I modified and not one that I created from scratch. As far as I know the originator was a poster at AmityMama, an attachment parenting site. I can not find the link to the original post, though this http://veganknitting.blogspot.com/2005/12/christmas-dinner-recipes-shepherds-pie.html appears to be the same recipe with only minor modification. Anyhow, here’s the cheapened, modified and tweaked over several years version that my family knows and loves. (Note: this recipe makes an 8x11” pan that’s pretty darn full, enough to feed a family of four with leftovers or for a smaller group to really overdo it. It halves nicely .)

Step one: Scrub up somewhere between 6 and 8 russet potatoes, depending on size, cut them up so they’ll cook a bit faster and put them on to boil. Skins on or off, it’s up to you. Give yourself plenty of time, because the longer they cook and the softer they get, the easier the mashing is and you‘ll be preparing the filling as they boil.

Step two: While the potatoes boil, preheat your oven to 350 degrees.

Step three: Skin and chop two carrots and a large yellow or white onion. Set aside (one container for both is fine. Rinse and cut up a double handful of mushrooms (I like criminis a little better than button mushrooms for this recipe) and set them aside in a separate container. If you will be using fresh garlic, chop or press a few cloves at this time.

Step four: You can use two types of seitan (seasoned braised wheat gluten) for this recipe. Chicken-style sits in a vegetable broth that tastes rather like chicken, traditional does not. The full recipe uses two packages of chicken-style seitan (1 lb 2 ozs net wt with broth,) if the traditional is a much larger package without broth you may only need one. Either one is fine, I will assume you have chicken-style, if traditional is used just add a bit more bullion or veggie broth to get a full-flavored gravy when we get to that step. Open the packages, reserve any broth for later use and then cut the seitan into bite-sized pieces.

Step five: Time to start preparing the filling. Put a generous splash of oil (olive oil or something lightly flavored like canola will do- if you go with canola try to get a non-GMO version) into a wide pan at least four inches deep. A stock pot or “chicken fryer” will do nicely (those chicken fryers are very useful pans, in my experience.) Add the fresh garlic or a teaspoon or so of garlic powder and the onions and carrots, then cook them until the onions are translucent and the carrots are mostly soft. At this point, add the chopped seitan (but not the broth) and a tablespoon or so of a decent quality soy sauce. Be careful that the mixture does not burn.. Once the seitan is warmed through, add the mushrooms and give them a moment or so to get soft, then add about a half a cup of flour and stir through.. If additional oil is needed at this time to create a rather chunky roux, go ahead and add it. Again watch closely to prevent burning and let the flour mixture cook for a minute or two. At this point, stir in any reserved broth from the seitan or about ¾ cup of a veggie broth, either regular or unchicken (broth made from bullion is fine unless you‘re watching your salt intake.) Give this a few minutes to cook and then make any adjustments needed to consistency (it should be thick, a little cornstarch and water can be used if it’s thin) or body. Once that’s done, pour the mixture into the baking dish. If it fills more than half the pan you’ll need to put the remainder in a separate container to cook at the same time or later, because the remaining space is needed for the mashed potatoes.

Step six: Drain the now-cooked potatoes. Mash them as mushy or chunky as you like, with water, broth, earth balance and plain soymilk or whatever you prefer. Use a fork, a potato masher or a hand mixer. It’s all good.

Step seven: Spread the mashed potatoes on top of the filling in the pan. If you have extra set them aside for another night’s dinner. Bonus homemade mashed potatoes are never a bad thing. If you have a olive oil mister spraying a little on top helps the pie to brown while it’s in the oven, but this is optional.

Step eight: Bake at 350 until warm all the way through and ideally a bit browned on top, roughly 20-30 mins. A few minutes under the broiler at the end can help with browning but this isn’t strictly needed and I’m usually too hungry to bother with this step because this is one of those recipes that fills the house with the smell of very good food.

Step nine: Remove from oven, allow to cool a few minutes as it makes for much easier serving.

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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:23 PM
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1. Sounds good. Since I'm not a Vegan, please explain the
seitan. Looked it up, but don't think the wheat gluten would be good for me. I usually stay away from bread products.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:27 PM
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3. Seitan is wheat gluten
Flour is soaked and kneeded to separate the gluten (the part that makes bread stretchy end elastic and the source of protein) then the gluten is braised in seasonings.

If you have issues with wheat you should definitely skip this one since it involves very concentrated wheat protein. Thursday and Friday's recipes will be gluten-free.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:30 PM
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19. I've had it with tofu instead.
I think it's good either way. Actually, shepherd's pie is the only thing I don't HATE seitan in.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:34 AM
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30. Hail Seitan
:evilgrin:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:23 PM
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2. Sounds yummy.
:9

Though - isn't vegan Shepherds' Pie somewhat of a contradiction, it being called "Shepherds'" because it has lamb in it.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:29 PM
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4. I don't know, the shepherd's pie I grew up with had ground cow
Murrkans hardly ever eat lamb, unless it's part of thier ethnic cuisine.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:36 PM
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5. I'm trying not to be pernickety
but when made with beef it's technically Cottage Pie.

Most Brits don't know the difference either...
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:43 PM
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6. I didn't think you were
I think most Americans learned to make the stuff from 70's cookbooks, which were written with budget-minded working mothers in mind and thus rather ground-beef intensive and well, nasty. My kid's Dad's omni version involves ground beef, frozen veggies, instant mashed potato flakes and american processed cheese food slices- it's a crime against food. :puke:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:58 PM
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15. Back when I still ate red meat (in my very young days) I HATED lamb.
Greasy, strong, disgusting taste. :(
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:59 PM
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16. My Dad used to make mutton from time to time
It's even worse, same grease and taste but it really smells up a house like nothing else can.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:43 PM
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7. Mashed Potato Crust
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 12:43 PM by ThomCat
I know some people make extra mashed potatoes, press it into a crust, and bake this, then cook the rest in that crust.

I haven't done this personally, yet, but I'm going to experiment. It makes this more of a Pot Pie.

Have you tried this? Had good/bad results? Have any advice for making the crust?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:45 PM
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8. I've never tried that
That sounds like a good idea though, so I'll have to try it. I'll be making this tonight for dinner I think. :)
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:47 PM
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9. ...
:hi:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:47 PM
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10. Hi sweetie!
:hi:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:50 PM
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11. How are you?
:hug:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:56 PM
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14. Doing pretty good
I've got all of this week's entries in this series typed up and ready to go. It gave me something to do because I had a heck of a time waking up this morning.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:50 PM
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12. I've got you so totally beat on the white-trashiness aspect:
1. Open box of powdered instant mashed potatoes. Follow directions to make eight to ten servings.

2. Open two cans of vegetables of your choice that sound good in shepherd's pie...I like peas, myself, or that carrots/peas/corn mix.

3. Sautee some seitan or other meat substitute with onions, garlic, and mushrooms. When it's all cooked, mix it with the canned veggies.

4. Spread the mashed potatoes all around the inside of the baking dish (save some for on top!), then dump the filling in, and bake like you describe.


Yeah, it's not quite as good as starting with fresh ingredients...but waaaay more white-trashy. :D
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 12:55 PM
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13. Canned peas?
I'd at least go with frozen, just for texture reasons. I have declared a fatwah on potato flakes though. Real potatoes are cheaper and they taste like food. I have to keep them around all the time anyhow because my kid would live on "baked" (microwaved) potatoes if I let him.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:00 PM
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17. yeah, I never get to use the peas anyway...
My girlfriend can't stand them--canned, fresh, frozen, she hates them all. Also, the real potatoes come out much nicer as a crust.

I really have done what I described, though, and it was surprisingly not as bad as it sounds. I was in a hurry. I believe I drank a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon as I prepared it, too.

I do love vegan shepherd's pie, though...especially with the White Wave chicken-style seitan. That stuff is just great!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 01:03 PM
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18. I need to work up a carrot-free version
Somebody coughflvegancough doesn't like carrots. :eyes: I could understand not liking peas, but carrots? :wtf:
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sbj405 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:53 PM
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22. He doesn't like carrots!
:crazy:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:59 PM
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23. Nope, never have.
If not for rescue bunny, I'd never have them in my house.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:36 PM
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20. This sounds delish
I'll have to try it. :9
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:30 PM
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21. I didn't know "white trash" could be vegan!
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:00 PM
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24. Sounds good. Better than mine, anyway (less the carrots)
I usually mix in a little nutritional yeast with the taters. Also, in mine, taters go in first, then fillings.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:38 PM
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25. I assume that would be a bit easier to scoop out
But the potatoes go on top, damn it. It's just The Way Things Are and Always Have Been.

Oh sorry, I think I started channeling my grandmother there. Thankfully I shut it off before the part about correct towel folding technique or ice cube tray ettiquite came up. :eyes:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:42 PM
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26. How about putting
a layer on the bottom (yes, much easier to scoop out...I've got some smarts) AND a layer on the top. Just make the tater layers a little thinner. Maybe browing a little on the bottom and then a little on the top.

I'm hungry.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 04:48 PM
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27. But that would be less potatoes
I kinda liked the idea upthread of doing a potato crust on the bottom and the filling in the middle. But whatver makes you happy is okay with me. :)

BTW, have you ever had the shepherd's pie recipie out of one of that Dr Weil guy's cookbooks? It's wierd, 'cause it has a mixture of russets and sweet potatoes in the crust and then a curried filling, but it's very good. http://www.drweil.com/u/Recipe/Recipe10092/
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:27 PM
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28. kick for the night crowd
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 10:17 PM
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29. I've been wondering about how
to make Shepherd's Pie a veggie version. (I haven't had much luck with seitan in the past- but this could work.....)

Thanks!

BTW - way back when I learned the meat version from my first MIL - she used to use biscuit dough on top and brown it.


Now, if I could just figure out how to change my Mamma's Vegetable Beef Soup into a veggie version. . .
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:01 PM
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31. Yeehaw!
As certified Vegan White Trash (straight outta the trailer park!) I'm absolutely loving this series. I'm going to figure out how to work lentils in somehow -- everything is better with lentils. :hi:
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