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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:18 PM
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Poll question: Best all-time World Series - who wins?
ESPN recently broadcast the results of its survey about the best World Series teams - and came up with:

American League - the 1927 New York Yankees ("Murderer's Row")

National League - the 1975 Cincinnati Reds ("The Big Red Machine")

Who wins?
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:23 PM
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1. I think you'd have to take the Yankees in this one
The Reds had a great lineup, but their pitching was not dominant. And not dominant against Ruth and Gehrig is just asking for a hurting. The only question is how Waite Hoyt and company would fare against Morgan and Bench, et al, but I'll take Murderer's Row in a slugfest.

But frankly, I think the 1998 Yankees beat both of these teams. And probably the 1971 Orioles too.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:27 AM
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6. The 2004 Red Sox seemed like they could beat any team when they
were down 3 games to 1. More of a miracle than a fluke - they just kept pulling miracles out of their hats.
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CPMaz Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 04:01 AM
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9. Actually, they were down 3 - 0
and were losing in the 9th inning of game 4.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 01:16 AM
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13. You got that right - sorry about the error.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 12:12 AM
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10. Well it's true
that in baseball, any team can beat any other team on any given day. But in a normal 7 game series, I do believe that the 2004 Sox, while a very good team, would lose pretty easily to the 1927, 1961, or 1998 Yankees, as well as the 1971 Orioles. Or the early 70s Oakland A's, for that matter.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 01:19 AM
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14. Gotta agree with you
Those were all some great teams, the Red Sox seemed to get almost a century of miracles all in one series against the Yanks in the Pennant in 2004. I guess it was destiny. I don't think they could have done it against any of those other teams, which were all better than the 2004 Yanks.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:24 PM
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2. hard to say
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 04:26 PM by LSK
The stats are inflated one way or another because of the era they played in.
Check out those stats thou:

Ruth .356 - 60 - 164 rbi
Gehrig .373 - 47 - 175 rbi

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/NYY/1927.shtml

I'd lean towards the 27 Yankees because not only were they murderers row, but they had Hall of Fame pitchers too.
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CPMaz Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:59 AM
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8. Many of the '27 Yankees are in the HOF
if only for being in the right place at the right time.

I mean, Tony Lazzeri was a good player, but would have never even been considered for the HOF if he played in St. Louis. The same with Waite Hoyt. They were both good players, but marginal HOF'ers at best.

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:34 PM
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3. uh, the all-white team?
At least according to the earlier posters. Seems to me that there's two variables: opening up baseball to minorities vs. teams getting watered down due to expansion. I'm no baseball expert but I'm pretty sure that at least one team from the post-Jackie Robinson era would have mopped the floor with the 1927 Yankees.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:04 PM
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4. big red machine?!?!?!?
more proof that all the espn folks espn are on drugs

the reds were not even the most impressive team of the 70s....that title belongs to Oakland
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 05:05 PM
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5. I agree about Oakland
although I wasn't born until the late 70s. But from what I heard and read, Oakland was NASTY!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 03:28 AM
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7. Oakland was dominant in 72, 73 and 74. After that it was the Reds, who
even dominated a hot Yankee team.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 12:13 AM
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11. Well, that's not totally accurate
they beat the Red Sox in 1975 and the Yankees in 1976. And then they didn't make it back to the series for a while. The 75 Sox were a much better team than the 76 Yankees, in my opinion. The 77-78 Yankees were much better than the 76 version too, I think.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 10:46 AM
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16. I stand amended.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 12:31 AM
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12. According to ESPN There Are No Sports West of the Mississippi
nt
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-15-06 01:33 AM
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15. I voted for Murderers Row, but in defense of the Reds,
you've got to admit they had an incredible lineup:

Dave Concepcion
Joe Morgan
Pete Rose
Johnny Bench
Ken Griffey
George Foster
Tony Perez
Cesar Geronimo

Six of their guys could hit home runs, four of them consistently. They all hit for average. And then there was "Charley Hustle"...
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:32 AM
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17. OK, one shameless last Saturday night kick:
:kick:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:35 AM
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18. the late 90s yankees teams
Would have gotten destroyed by the 05 White Sox

:P
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:44 PM
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23. the bottom line is
i not convinced that either of the two listed belong there (unless by "greatest", of course, they mean "most famous or well-known")
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:37 AM
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19. I dislike the Yankee's
butI picked them...:(
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:38 AM
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20. But... were you a baseball fan in 1927?
I wasn't.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 01:42 AM
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21. Nope...
sure wasn't, but that doesn't change my dislike for the Yanks one bit, I'm trying to be unbiased...If I was biased, I would have voted for the Reds...:)
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 02:10 AM
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22. the '08 cubbies!
best team ever.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:21 PM
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24. 1991 Minnesota Twins followed by the 1987 Twins
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