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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 02:54 PM
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Radio Lady Reviews: “Lady in the Water” (Beware! No lifeguard on duty!)
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 03:25 PM by Radio_Lady


**This review contains spoilers**

A prayer: "Spirits of the watery deep, please protect us from this inane and inadequate aquatic indulgence."

Here’s the gospel according to yours truly. The movie “Lady in the Water” is just a big, soggy mess. If I were you, I wouldn’t spend any time or money on this summer wet dream from M. Night Shyamalan.

Perhaps you savored M. Night Shyamalan’s “The Sixth Sense” – and found some redeeming qualities in “Unbreakable” – “Signs” – and even “The Village.” I always try to give young directors a big break, and admit I had some questions about his previous work. So I lowered my expectations, hoping Shyamalan would get to a better place with this film. It still surprises me that his previous films have been quite successful financially. (See the data for yourself at www.boxofficemojo.com).

This week, I was one of many other preview patrons who were left scratching their heads in disbelief. I left the theater gasping for clarity about this fantasy, with important questions such as, “What did I just witness?” and “What is this – or that – supposed to mean?” Movies that ask questions, or beg the questions they ask and don’t answer them - or answer them with mumbo-jumbo – are not communicating properly. I don’t want to be swept away with philosophical conundrums. I believe LITW will bring out more heat than light, and maybe make more money because of the controversy.

Despite the superior casting and cinematography that writer and director M. Night Shyamalan has managed to cobble together in the film – including himself as a pleasant looking but fairly amateurish supporting actor – this movie has illogical “cement feet” that cause it to sink pretty quickly. It's just that the effort totally submerges itself in its own perfect pomposity and slippery self-indulgence. One might even argue that it borders on mental instability or acting-out behavior by M. Night Shyamalan. I swear this movie looks like his cinematic Rohrschach test, or perhaps a very long screen test. Is he really thinking he should pursue a third career – in acting in his own films? What's that all about? OK, so he’s better looking than Alfred Hitchcock – but will that satisfy Shyamalan?

Once again, the dreadful script with its dopey dialog is the culprit. It really is a “no brainer” that film scripts with imaginative and cohesive stories are the ones that usually succeed. This script? It’s stupid and sloppy. There are only a few shock cuts in this film – hardly qualifying it as a thriller. The audience actually laughed quite a bit at the screening I attended – but I wonder if these are uncomfortable cackles at dialog bloopers so ridiculous that they demand laughter. So, is this concoction a comedy-thriller-fantasy?



Shyamalan puts together a fantastic list of names of people, jobs, and animals that are purely invented. Well, that could be a good thing – the main character, called Story, is a “narf” or water nymph. She is found in the swimming pool of a seedy apartment building called The Cover (clever!). She comes from the “Blue” world somewhere under water. Cleveland Heep, the downtrodden manager with a difficult secret, supervises the mundane requests of the residents of the apartment complex. Cleveland notices -- something in the pool after hours. Soon Cleveland has an almost naked and pearly white woman (not a mermaid – no tail) on his hands and sitting in his lap. Heep deduces that he is supposed to follow a scriptload of unanticipated actions in order to keep her away from the evildoers. One is called a “scrunt” (I dare you to look that up in Google as it has quite a few randy meanings). The eventual result is to try to help Story get home which turns out to be no easy task. I’m not going to even bother to tell you what happens at the end of this film.

I find a few redeeming qualities in this movie. Paul Giamatti turns in a good performance, swimming upstream with the verbal babble he has been asked to memorize.

Bryce Dallas Howard is very ethereal, but she has less acting to do than I can even recall from “The Village” – believe it or not, she doesn’t even swim a lot in this picture! However, her hair color and hair style change with remarkable frequency. She even knows how to play Charades – or was it American sign language?



Bob Balaban is always interesting to watch – here he’s a critic who utters some of the oddest dialog I’ve ever heard on screen.

Reports say Disney executives tried to get Shyamalan to fix this script. Instead, he apparently broke his ties with Disney and took this project to Warner Brothers, where I’ve got to hand it to him. He must have done one hell of a sales job on their executives.

In my opinion, “Lady” is the work of a self-indulgent man who purports to be a skilled writer/director. Mr. Shyamalan must be continuously pumped up with his importance both in his own mind and perhaps by the people who immediately surround him. The other option is that he is really suffering from some mental distress that he would be well advised to discuss with a competent professional. This is not a put-down. Lots of people in the movie business have psychiatrists or psychologists who help them interpret their stories.

Due to time pressures in my personal life this week, I’m going to refer you to the many fascinating reviews now posted at www.rottentomatoes.com , www.imdb.com , and www.metacritic.com. No doubt, this film will have its own rooting section. The plotting and logistical problems in this film are so extensive that it would take hours to discuss them with you. But just a few pop into my mind:

Why would a sea nymph – trying to get back to her own “blue” world – have no gills, no fins, and no tail? Certainly, Darwin would laugh at this one – it’s not the “survival of the fittest” at all. Even the movie “Aquamarine” was more believable than this waterlogged fiasco. This beautiful water nymph better be able to do a fantastic Australian crawl stroke for a lifetime and add to that some big fat surface dives for days to insure her survival.

Why is the grass-covered hyena-type monster – not a water creature at all – chasing her? How did he find her in suburban Philadelphia with millions of people? And what about the three monkeys who are so mean they kill their parents on the day they are born? Wow! This was a children’s bedtime story? I wouldn’t want M. Night’s daughters to get those kinds of ideas in their heads.

What can you say about a backyard swimming pool that has a drain that leads not to the filtration system, but to a watery cave that contains items from the aquatic life of this nymph (but no other nymphs visible there). How does he find the particular mud that can heal the nymph’s wounds? Think that the pool installers might have had a code fight with the city on the specs of that pool?

Why would it require a big flying bird to take this water nymph back to her people? Why not a dolphin?



“Lady in the Water” is supposed to be adapted from a “bedtime story” M. Night Shyamalan told to his two young children. I strongly recommend you refrain from bringing your children to this film. If you do, nightmares are possible and they may not want to attend swimming lessons at your local pool, or even take a shower.

Regrettably, I must now add my voice to those who feel only a sinking feeling and a downward drift. I predict a watery grave for this movie monstrosity. I do hope that there is no terrifying tsunami – perhaps to wash the mind of Mr. Shyamalan further out to sea.

Nighty-night, Mr. Shyamalan. Better luck next time – if there IS a next time.

Rating: D
Cast: Paul Giamatti, Bryce Dallas Howard, Jeffrey Wright, Bob Balaban, Sarita Choudhury, Cindy Cheung, M. Night Shyamalan, Freddy Rodríguez, Bill Irwin, Mary Beth Hurt, Jared Harris and Tovah Feldshuh
Directed by: M. Night Shyamalan
Screenplay by: M. Night Shyamalan
Distributor: Warner Bros.
Runtime: 110 min
Rating: PG-13
Year: 2006


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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 04:47 PM
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1. Re: Black/green logo. It was supposed to be this poster.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 04:48 PM by Radio_Lady
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:08 PM
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2. Sounds like it really was as bad as a lot of us feared.
Thank you for the comprehensive review. Much appreciated.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:58 PM
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3. Thanks, azmouse. Stay cool wherever you are.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:04 PM
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4. Minor erratum: My editing time has expired.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 06:10 PM by Radio_Lady
"She is found in the swimming pool of a seedy apartment building called The Cover (clever!)."

SHOULD READ The COVE (not The Cover...)



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:28 PM
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5. Anyone planning to see this movie over the weekend?
This thread has been completely lost in the lovely and lively Lounge Lizard Talk Soup tonight, and I can't say that I blame you.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:30 PM
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6. no but i was curious about it and after watching "The Villiage" i've
decided to stay away from his movies.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:35 PM
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7. Chimpsrsmarter, I think you've made a wise decision.
It's really hard for me to say this. After watching and reviewing movies for 35 years, I can't recall ever saying this about any director except Robert Altman -- and I've even relented on him.

Put your weekend to better use. Our temperature is going to soar over 100 degrees tomorrow and Sunday. Stay cool, wherever you are.

Thanks for responding. In peace, Radio_Lady

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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:11 PM
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8. *Spoilers* And Question.
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/ladyinwater.html

























Why would an eagle be able to rescue a sea nymph and take her to a watery place?

Why would monkeys kill their own parents?

Is there some political symbolism here?

Why the hell does everyone believe in the "bedtime" story?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:52 PM
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9. Not sure why you posted this, but I've never seen that web site.
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 11:58 PM by Radio_Lady
Someone has taken a lot of time to re-cap the movie so completely it almost hurts to read it.

Is the audience supposed to answer those questions by reading the spoiler re-cap?

ON EDIT:

Would you, as a production person, give a thumbs up to this story outline and send it to full production the way it is?

Also, do you plan to see the movie?

Thanks for that link. I'm sure it will come in handy sometime in the future!



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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:13 AM
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11. I posted the link for the extra spoilers.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:26 AM by philosophie_en_rose
Your reviews are fabulous! But - just in case anyone suspects that the parts you didn't discuss aren't actually boring and insipid, there are apparently people sit in the theaters with notepads, memorizing/ recording the whole thing for themoviespoiler.com.

I haven't seen the movie. Just reading the spoilers on the website and in your review prove that the story is too unbelievable to watch. Or pay for.

I had a little sliver of doubt in Shamylan's favor. Surely the story could not be that self-indulgent or silly?

I should have trusted you. :)

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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:03 AM
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10. Wow, I read some of the reviews on rottentomatoes and I'm surprised at how
unanimous the reviews are on how bad this film is. Just Wow!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:26 PM
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14. Yes, sadly, this film is taking a real critical hit today.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:28 PM by Radio_Lady
I really hate to see a film savaged like this one. So many people are involved in filming a major motion picture like this -- that seeing any individual movie sink like a stone is very upsetting. Paul Giamatti tried to make a case for "Lady in the Water" and its message last night on Jon Stewart's Daily Show. I could hardly watch that interview.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:56 AM
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12. I think this is the endgame for M. Night Shyamalamadingdong
It's just really sad when a towering ego overwhelms one's genuine creative abilities. It happened with George Lucas, too.

I can't imagine that after this disaster and "The Village", M. Night will get another chance. There are a lot of other people out there who can make bad movies who work much cheaper, and who don't have the attitude.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:14 PM
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13. Hi Frank. You're certainly thinking the way I'm thinking this morning.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:18 PM by Radio_Lady
Somebody at Warner Brothers should have shown Shyamalan the door (or urged him to consult a script doctor) rather than pouring a reported $60 million into this movie as it is.

I used to tell my haughty young stepson, "With your attitude, the literary world will chew you up and spit you out." This was after I deigned to suggest he make a few spelling edits and other improvements in his work when he was in his late teens.

He thought the literary world was waiting with baited breath for his novels -- and bragged how he would publish three books before he was thirty years old. Right. Now he's more mellow and turning 48 later this year.

PS. None of the novels has ever seen the light of day. His work has merit, but attitude buried him. He dropped out of college after an altercation with his English professor. Later, he did go back and finish for his degree. Then, the one publisher who seemed interested in him asked if he'd be willing to do a second novel if the first one was a success. He said NO, and that was the end of that. I think he does regret that move.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:29 PM
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15. It looks pretty awful
The reviews have just been savage. His ego hasn't helped. It looks like Disney made the right call here by passing on this.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:12 PM
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18. The Disney production president who nixed the script, a woman named
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 09:16 PM by Radio_Lady
Nina Jacobson, just got fired last week.



http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-fi-disney19jul19,1,1768636.story?coll=la-headlines-entnews&track=crosspromo

Disney Fires Film Production President

Nina Jacobson will be replaced by marketing head Oren Aviv as the company revamps unit.

By Claudia Eller, Times Staff Writer

July 19, 2006

Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group President Nina Jacobson has become the first high-level casualty of a major restructuring of the studio's movie operation that will see 650 employees lose their jobs and will save the Burbank company $90 million to $100 million a year in overhead.

Jacobson, 40, one of Hollywood's most respected movie executives, was fired Monday morning by her boss, studio Chairman Dick Cook, when she called him from the hospital room where her partner was about to deliver their third child. Despite the record-breaking performance of Disney's current release, "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest," she was hearing rumors and wanted reassurance that her job was safe. It wasn't. Cook told Jacobson — who had two years to go on her three-year contract — that Oren Aviv, the studio's marketing chief, was replacing her as president of production.

Cook offered Jacobson a production deal at the studio, which she declined.

"I would rather start fresh with something new," she said Tuesday. "I feel very sad to be leaving a job that I have loved."

@@@@@@@@MORE AT LINK ABOVE @@@@@@@@@
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:15 PM
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16. Apparently, they cut my friend's part (as an extra) out of this.
Bastards.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:20 PM
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19. Oh, well. What can I say? Your friend still got paid, right?
Hope the assignment wasn't too arduous.

Is you friend in SEG -- the Screen Extras Guild?

Better luck next time.



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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 04:18 PM
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17. Hi RL.....
Which station are you on? KBOO?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:28 PM
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20. No, not KBOO. It's Oregon Public Broadcasting, but it's a TV sub-channel.
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 09:34 PM by Radio_Lady


My program is on "Golden Hours," a 24/7 audio service of Oregon Public Broadcasting. It's been around for several decades in the Portland area and can now be heard all over Oregon and southern Washington state.

Although the stream is available on an audio sub-channel of KOPB-TV -- via modern TV sets -- the best way to hear it is via the Internet.

Go to my journal, scroll over to the far right and read the instructions in the right hand column.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Radio_Lady/

The show is broadcast each Monday at 1 PM Pacific Time/4 PM Eastern Time (Please adjust for other time zones.)

If you have other questions, please feel free to PM me.

Want further information on the schedule or the Omni Media Network splash page?

Go to: http://www.omnimedianetworks.org/ (Link on #8)

http://www.omnimedianetworks.org/textschedule.htm

Thanks for your interest.

Warm regards,

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:59 PM
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21. UPDATE: LITW is now Shyamalan's "worst reviewed movie" ---
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 10:01 PM by Radio_Lady
according to Metacritic.com

35 out of 100 = Generally negative reviews from accredited film reviewers.

6.7 out of 10 = from the general public on the movie's first day of release (59 responses).

http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/ladyinthewater



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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 12:17 AM
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22. Did ANYBODY go to see this film today -- or planning for tomorrow?
I thought it might get a small bounce from -- um -- curiosity and hot weather.

Guess I was incorrect...
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