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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:26 PM
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What would you think of a site that would publish your personal info...
if you did something that the admin didn't like? I know of a site that did that recently. One of the admins of the site got pissed off that someone suggested that he was also the proprietor of the site, both of whom post as different people on said site. So he actually published this person's email address and IP address in retaliation, as well as banning him!

Seems to me that this is a SERIOUS breach in ethics. Especially when one of the rules of the site is that no member can post their or others' personal information, including email addresses. Imagine skinner publishing someone's personal information here simply because someone suggested, for example, that he and earlg and elad are all the same person. As if it would actually matter. It's WEIRD I tell you.

I'm rather flabbergasted at this, since this other site is supposedly a progressive one as well, and one to which many DUers seem to be members. They should all be aware that their personal information can (and likely will) be used as a weapon against them, if they say anything contrary to the admin there.

Wild stuff, no? :crazy:
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:31 PM
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1. I agree with you
In fact I posted it was unethical in a thread here last night about it. My copied post from that thread, since I'm too lazy to type it again :rofl:

"No one has any reason good enough to post that info on an open forum, especially an admin.

It may not be illegal, but it's damn sure unethical. Unless IP#s and email addys are publicly displayed when you post, then it should be safe to assume they aren't available to the members. For an admin to post them just because he's pissed is wrong. It speaks volumes about his character, or rather the lack of it."

BTW That thread has since been locked.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:37 PM
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4. Ah, I guess I missed that thread.
At least that means that others do know about this... and that's good. Guess I'll go search for the other, I hope this one stays unflamed and unlocked.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:56 PM
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14. It's around here somewhere
I don't know the admin in question so I wasn't talking about him in particular.

I was referring to any admin who would do that. It's disgusting.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:33 PM
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2. Haven't we had enough of this?
What's weird to me is that we don't just let it go.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:35 PM
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3. Not sure I know what you're talking about.
This is the first I've mentioned it here. I just found out about it myself yesterday. Did someone else post about it?

Also, do you think it's ok? We should just let people do this?
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:40 PM
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6. There was a very long thread about it yesterday
It was very similar to this one, with no specifics. A jillion people piped in and agreed with your position, then the thread was locked.

Honestly, I don't have enough information to make a judgement.

Should we "let" her do this? As opposed to arresting her? It seems like if you don't like the site, do go there.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:42 PM
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7. Well, I'm glad they agreed... I wasn't online last night.
"Should we "let" her do this? As opposed to arresting her? It seems like if you don't like the site, do go there."

Well, of course, there is no recourse, which is a problem by itself. But there are ways to encourage him to do the right thing and not the wrong. It isn't as simple as not liking the site and not going there... what if you DID like the site, and joined, only for your personal info to be posted? I think that's incredibly unethical. And I think people should be warned.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:38 PM
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5. Would you let it go if someone called for violence against you...
...and then posted your personal information?

"RIP HIM UP!
SHOW NO PITY!"

It's not just unethical, it's quite possibly illegal.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:43 PM
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8. This is more information...
It seems a little petty, but no more so than bringing it here to rehash over and over, trying to get people to say bad things about the admin in question, without telling what happened.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:47 PM
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10. Good point.
I'm a little tired of rehashing it, too. I wasn't involved in the original dust-up, but yet I can't bear an injustice, so I post in these threads. Meh, I'm through with it.

Thankfully, I never joined that "other" site. :P

No matter, as this thread will be deleted. :eyes:
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:49 PM
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11. What if that person starts to receive threatening emails?
I wonder if the person who published the email address could be held liable?
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:54 PM
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13. Can you please show me where *that* person's personal info
was posted. To the best of my knowledge, the only people whose info was published were trolls who came to the site to attack Ava. That tactic seemed to nip the problem in the bud. Should a progressive site allow a 15-year-old peace activist to be the victim of vicious attacks if it can be prevented? I don't think so.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:03 PM
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18. That sounds horrible... and is nothing at all to do with this.
As I said very clearly in my OP, this is only someone who suggested that the admin and the owner were one and the same person. Not at all something as horrible as attacking Ava. That's reprehensible by itself, but still not cause to publish someone's personal info. I think perhaps we are referring to two different sites.

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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:03 PM
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19. You're kidding right?
Why wouldn't anyone post that here? Then they would be guilty of doing the same thing that admin did. :shrug:

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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:15 PM
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21. I Heard About The Veiled Death/Violence Threats...
... by posting Pink Floyd lyrics "They're gonna send you back to mother in a cardboard box, you better RUN!"

Nice.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:45 PM
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9. I'd Say That Person Is About To Receive A Letter From A Lawyer...
... and their ISP and/or web hosting provider is about to receive a copy of that letter UNLESS THEY APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW... OR THEY BETTER APOLOGIZE BEFORE THE HOUR IS UP... OR ELSE... AND THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT OR-ELSE MEANS, SO THEY JUST BETTER DO IT!!!!!1! GET IT?!?! FURTHERMORE, UNLESS THAT PERSON APOLOGIZES TO EVERYONE RIGHT NOW THEY BETTER WATCH OUT BECAUSE SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!! DO YOU COMPREHEND THAT???





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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:50 PM
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12. Oh wow....
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 08:51 PM by Misunderestimator
deja vu
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 08:58 PM
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15. one of the career based sites i post at did that to a group of people...
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 09:05 PM by bridgit
one person's attorney informed them of the potentially criminal basis for having done so; and another called in the FBI :shrug: the site is being 'observed' for patterns of breach routinely by a host of law & PI types
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:00 PM
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17. Interesting...
At least it's good to know that it's not "acceptable" behavior.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:04 PM
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20. nope, decidedly UNacceptable, that 'end user thing' or whatever...
cuts both ways it would seem
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:00 PM
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16. I'd make sure that admin heard from my attorney.
Redstone
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:17 PM
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22. May as well name the site.
seeing as they have no qualms about revealing even more personal stuff.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 09:21 PM
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23. Ok... that's reasonable.
DemocraticWarrior.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Yeah....that's right.
You and your friends are the voice of reason.

:eyes:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:06 PM
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25. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
Nor what it has to do with the subject at hand. Do you or do you not think it's ok for a site owner to publish personal info about one of its members, under any circumstance?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:08 PM
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:10 PM
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27. :o
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 10:15 PM by IsIt1984Yet
:popcorn:

On edit, that was WAY mean.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:13 PM
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28. Why? I really don't understand.
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 10:14 PM by Misunderestimator
What's evil about exposing something unethical? What's evil about finding out that one is being slandered on another site and defending oneself?

I am far from evil. I won't defend myself to you or to anyone else. I may have enemies... but it is not because of evil, only because I stand up for what is right. I don't care if people hate me, you included, as long as I am true to myself and honest in my dealings with others. And I am. It seems that you may be the victim of less than honest gossip about me, as apparently some others are as well.

Think about it... what have I ever done to you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:22 PM
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:21 PM
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29. I think that that person should be ashamed
or smote
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:22 PM
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31. chime
:thumbsup:
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 10:23 PM
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32. Locking
Let's not continue this here anymore.
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