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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:11 AM
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Cops Use 26 Bullets To Subdue Pit Bull
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Cops involved in the killing of a pit bull in a Bronx apartment building will reenact the shooting for investigators trying to figure out why it took 26 bullets to subdue the attacking dog, a police source said.

Police chiefs said NYPD procedures were followed in the shooting in a hallway early yesterday that left one cop bitten and three other officers with graze wounds from what officials called friendly fire.

"The shooting was justified, period," said Deputy Police Commissioner Paul Browne. "As with any shooting, the tactics employed, including the number of shots fired, will be examined by the firearms review board."

The four patrolmen and a sergeant will reconstruct the wild shooting at Rodman's Neck, the NYPD's firing range. A date hasn't been set.

Police were called late Saturday to 480 Concord Ave., Port Morris, on a report of a tenant-landlord dispute that involved a teen smoking pot at the building.

The suspect, Lenin Acevedo, who turned himself in hours later and was charged with marijuana possession, ran from his sixth-floor apartment to another flat on the fourth floor.

Acevedo kicked in the door and a pit bull named Cookie came sprinting into the hallway, witnesses said.

The dog locked its jaws around one officer's leg just after midnight, drawing at least two of the cops to fire from their 9-mm. service weapons. The graze wounds, a police source said, were suffered from ricochet gunfire.

"He was a good dog," said a 12-year-old boy whose family owned the pit bull. "He never bit anybody in his life."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/437672p-368722c.html
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:18 AM
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1. I know why. Cops can't shoot for shit.
I see it at the pistol range all the time. They come in to practice with their uber-tiny service pistols and from 15 ft. away and leave a uniform pattern of holes all over the 3 ft. X 4 ft. target. Meanwhile, I'm shooting 4" targets from 30 ft. away and hitting it most of the time.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:21 AM
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2. Nothing "wild" about that shooting
I don't know about you, but if I was a cop with a pit bull locked around my leg, I probably would have emptied the magazine into the fucking mutt too. Which is what happened here, except it was two cops, not just one.
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:23 AM
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3. "dog locked its jaws around one officer's leg" Bullshit.
The locking jaws myth is just that... a myth. They're DOGS, not alligators! http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm


Nice, they shoot 26 rounds and hurt themselves: "The graze wounds, a police source said, were suffered from ricochet gunfire."

:eyes:

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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:30 AM
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5. isn't one bullet usually sufficent to take down a small animal?
hell id even give them 2, but come on 26?!?!?! and if the animal was, as they claim on a fellow officer, isn't 26 bullets a bit risky to be shooting at something attached to an officer?
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:31 AM
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6. My guess is that they missed about 25 times. Hence the ricochet injuries.
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:33 AM by IsIt1984Yet
on edit: ok, they SAY the dog was hit 10 times... but those cops are clearly shit-for-shots!! of those 10, I'd bet one was a direct hit that did the trick.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:33 AM
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7. if they missed an animal in an enterance hallway of an apt. in NYC
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:34 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
we have a bigger problem then rouge animals...our own fucking police force cant figure out what is excessive force or know how to properly use a weapon :eyes:
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:34 AM
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8. Check my edit. They claim the dog was hit 10 times. So 16 shots DIDN'T hit
the dog...
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:35 AM
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9. 26 shots fired and 10 made the target?
and these people are supposed to be protecting us? :shrug:
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:38 AM
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10. And, of the 10, my guess is that 9 were "grazes". It can't take 10 shots
to stop any dog. And, if this was REALLY a pit bull (so many are called pits when they are not), it was all of maybe 50-60 lbs TOPS.

But, really, think about it, if the claim is that it was "locked" on the cops leg, that's pretty fucking close range to miss 16 of 26 shots, isn't it?
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:40 AM
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11. exactly!
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:40 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
AND, if the dog was really on the cop, wouldn't unloading 26 shots, with 16 misses lead to an almost dead cop? I mean, this is an NYC entrance hallway, there isn't that much space for missing 16 shots
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IsIt1984Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:51 AM
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12. I am picturing a "Laural and Hardy" type situation. Except with blood.
<sigh>
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 10:25 AM
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4. The same reason it took 41 shots to bring down Amado Diallo
Edited on Mon Jul-24-06 10:25 AM by MadAsHellNewYorker
:eyes:

the nypd has a major history of over reacting to small problems and under reacting to bigger ones :shrug:
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-24-06 11:07 AM
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13. The dog was doing it's job..just got the wrong person
It's really too bad the dog didn't latch onto the idiot who kicked in the door and created the mess.

I wouldn't think it would take that many shots but I would imagine it would be very difficult to shoot something that is attached to a human and said human & animal are probably rolling and thrashing around.

I feel bad for the boy and for his dog.
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