UPDATE: regarding reyd reid reed's daughter ...

[auntAgonist]

I have R's permission to post this private message she sent to me. This is all the information that's available at this time. Please, keep those good vibes going.

Kesha, I'm hearing back from the messages I left all over town yesterday but it's just more of the same. Can't. Won't.

*sigh*

I've sent all the information I have, as well as her picture, to the people that Lizzie Grace put me in touch with last night.

Keep a good thought.
Whenever I'm feeling discouraged or frustrated, you lift my spirits. Whenever I don't know where to go or what to try next, there's a suggestion.

Thank you just doesn't feel like enough...but it's all I have right now.

Thank you.
:hug:

Lisa.

[AirmensMom]

1. Thanks for the update, auntA.

Still keeping them in our thoughts and prayers. :hug: :grouphug:

[auntAgonist]

19. I'll continue to update as news comes in.

This is such a trying time for the family. I don't know that I could remain as strong as R.

:hug:

aA

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. My heart is breakiing for her right now...

I just cannot imagine. :cry: I will continue to hope and pray that this beautiful girl comes home soon.

[auntAgonist]

26. Your daughter is close

to the same age isn't she?

I can't imagine her pain either. We just really need to be supporting her in any way we can.

More news later, and hopefully it will be good news.

aA

[OhioBlue]

85. still sending good thoughts to rrr

:hug:

[MsKandice01]

3. My heart goes out to RRR

Thanks for the update.

[auntAgonist]

29. thanks MsKandice01

we can all keep good thoughts, prayers and kick this thread to keep it on top :)

aA

[miss_american_pie]

4. Thanks for the update, aA

Keep the faith, rrr. :hug:

[haf216]

5. Sending all my good thoughts their way!

[u4ic]

6. Thanks for the update, auntieA

Still sending good vibes their way...:grouphug:

[skygazer]

7. Worst feeling I ever had was when my 13 year old went missing

That was only for one night. I can't imagine what poor reyd reid reed is going through. I hope this is resolved soon. :cry:

[helderheid]

8. Breaks my heart. I'm keeping her family in the Light.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

9. Thanks for the update.

Continued good wishes to RRR. :hug:

[Misunderestimator]

10. Thanks for the update... I wish she knew more.

I've been reading those threads... this is horrible... Sending her good vibes for a safe return of her daughter.

[auntAgonist]

13. me too MisU!

I cannot begin to imagine what she's going through. The fact that she can't get anyone to help search for her daughter is just pure insanity. I'll post again when I have more. Lisa'a so busy, and she's just overwhelmed, so it's hard for her to keep things updated here.

:hug: hope you're doing ok.

aA
kesha

[Taverner]

11. OMG

:cry:

As the parent of two kids this hits home...big time

[CaliforniaPeggy]

12. I thank you, my dear Kesha, for this update......

I cannot believe that the folks who could help her in her town, actually won't.......

I am holding the good thought nonetheless........

I will PM you shortly......

[Katina]

14. I was hoping she would have heard something by now

this is so sad...sending good thoughts & prayers.

[SeattleGirl]

15. Thank you for posting this update.

Sarah, please please come home.

[hedgehog]

16. When I was in San Antonio last spring, there was a young white

girl panhandling in the tourist district along the Riverwalk. She had a story about running away with her boyfriend to his aunt's house and then getting kicked out of the aunt's house. I gave her $5 and told her to call home. For all I know, this was a local kid having a good time conning out-of-towners. On the other hand, maybe her story was true. I guess the point is that there are lots of stupid kids out there doing dangerous things. Then there are the 'throw-aways", teenagers who for one reason or another end up leaving home/ getting kicked out because their family is broken. This thread has given us all a look at someone going through a nightmare. (For the record, I have a sister who was responsible for a lot of gray hair in her time, so I would never blame the parents for a runaway. If ever there was proof of free will, it is teenage behaviour!) Anyways, after Sarah comes home, let's all remember this and look around in our own towns and cities to ensure that we are protecting all teenagers, not just our own.

[Quakerfriend]

18. Very well said, hedgehog. We must remember how

sensitive they are in everyway. During the teenage years they learn a lot about the examples set by the adults around them- whether from a teacher, someone they work with or at home. They take what they observe around them and mirror it in their adult lives- acts of kindness, standing up for others, or whatever.

[michaelpush]

41. I would have told

her I would give her 5$ if she went to a phone with me, called, and confirmed it was her mother on the other end...

[hedgehog]

54. I should have done that. Next time I'll be prepared.

[itzamirakul]

17. You, your daughter and all of your family are in my thoughts and prayers..

eom

[Nicole]

20. Thanks for the update

Continued prayers for her safe return.

[Midlodemocrat]

21. Thank you for the update, aA. This is truly a mother's worst

nightmare. I have faith that she will be found and that the only reason she isn't coming back right now is because she thinks her mom will be mad at her.

[Guy Fawkes]

22. I just had this idea... (and it couldn't hurt)

Call the local cab/bus companies- Greyhound and the like- and find out how far $15 will get you (I think that's the amount mentioned). You might also ask for the $20-30 range. It isn't much, but it could be a starting point. Asking people at bus terminals if they've seen your daughter could also give some leads.

Hope you find her soon, RRR.
:hug:

[auntAgonist]

24. the cab company that was used

to pick up Sarah, is not forthcoming with ANY information at all. They (the police) will NOT issue a warrant so that R can get information ... unbelievable I know!!!!!


aA

[_testify_]

25. Honestly...

We need to get a group of fellas to go down to that cab company and threaten them with grievous bodily harm if they don't make with an address.

I know its not the progressive way, but it works.

[BreweryYardRat]

31. I'm willing to volunteer.

Problem is, I'm in Florida.

[Guy Fawkes]

27. If you say, "How far can $XY get me," it shouldn't be a problem...

that's just information on standard fare, right? No mention of anything else.

[Gormy Cuss]

36. If you live in the community, you don't even have to ask.

Copy the published rates from the door on the cab if they're shown, or hail a cabbie and explain what you're trying to do. Cabbies are much more likely than the cab company to help you out because they want the fare. Then slip'em a few bucks.

[pitohui]

39. yes but don't you think there was misbehavior on the part of cab driver

there is some reason the cab driver/co. is CYA and it is not because the girl gave her last $15 to pay for the cab

[Oeditpus Rex]

34. Police can't issue a warrant

Only a judge can do that.

Just FYI. :hi:

[auntAgonist]

38. I miss spoke, it still amounts to the same thing ..

Lisa isn't getting the help she needs.

aA

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

53. Doesn't it become a missing person at some point? And even in the event

of a runaway, isn't the responsible parent entitled to this information (cab destination)?

[auntAgonist]

62. I always thought so, but I guess not.

It amazes me that this information is being held back from RRR.

aA

[IndependentVoice]

23. This story is really getting to me

My nephew ran away once, I have an idea of what she must be going through

[Mutley]

28. Hey Lisa.

Thanks for keeping us updated. I've been so worried about you and Sarah. :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Whoa_Nelly]

30. Am still thinking of ways to help you, RRR!

Many :hug: :hug: :hug:


Thanks for sharing the update, aA! :loveya:

[auntAgonist]

32. you're welcome .... lets keep this kicked :)

aA

[Ariana Celeste]

33. I can't imagine what RRR is going through.

RRR, know that my heart is with you. I hope that you get some info soon. :hug: :(

[NewWaveChick1981]

35. More good thoughts for rrr...

:hug: Keeping it kicked for you...

[Kajsa]

37. Thanks so much for the update.

I can't stop thinking about this.

I'm praying she gets good new, soon.

I am livid that the asshats at the cab company
and the police department won't help her!!

RRR- We're all here for you!

:hug:

[CraftyGal]

40. Keeping it Kicked!

:kick: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

You are in our thoughts and prayers.

Crafty

[auntAgonist]

42. welcome to DU CraftyGal, and thanks for the 'kick' n/t

[Kajsa]

45. Welcome to DU!

We're glad you're here.

:hi:

[michaelpush]

43. This feels so much like

a chatroom contact, and, an arrangement made...has all possible angles been attempted in this area?
I feel so sad when things like this happen...My thoughts are with her.

[auntAgonist]

44. welcome to DU Michaelpush, .. yes

it does seem that way, but so far there are just NO connections. Sarah didn't have her own computer nor did she have unlimited use of the family computer. there is no evidence to suggest an internet meeting.

keep a good thought please.

aA

[veness]

46. k & r. n/t

[auntAgonist]

47. more good thoughts ...

:kick:

aA

[Kat45]

48. Here's another thought: could she be with her father?

I don't know RRR's family situation, but since the girl's father wasn't mentioned, I'm thinking they might be divorced. Could she have gone to stay with her father, for some reason? (And could he have paid people off to not help find her?)

I apologize if I'm being untoward, but I figured I should offer up the thought.

[mzteris]

77. I've been wondering that, too.....

relatives, friends, somebody has to know something.

Thirteen year old girls just are NOT that good at "keeping secrets". Her "best friend" must know SOMETHING. . .

:banghead:

[auntAgonist]

49. another sort of update link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5411709&mesg_id=5415461

[ZombieNixon]

50. Why do I get the feeling there's more going on than R's been told?

I mean, in the whole town, NO ONE is willing to help? :wtf: I mean, Colo. Springs isn't the smallest of cities, or is it just full of assholes? Maybe I'm just suspicious, but I find it outrageous that no one in the whole place would be willing or able to help reyd reid reed out with a *missing* *child.* I wish there was something I could do to help, but I don't even know anyone in the area, closest I have is a friend in Fort Collins. :(

:hug: :hug:

[auntAgonist]

51. I think her daughter must have one hell of a network of 'friends'

for her to be able to remain incognito for so long. The hell that RRR is going through should NEVER be experienced by a parent. This child is a MINOR, a child, and NO ONE? knows where she is.

aA

[ZombieNixon]

52. I *really* hope it's because,

her daughter's trying to keep undercover, as it were, and nothing worse. I'm getting worried. :(

[jollyreaper2112]

56. I don't know the full situation

Were there any family problems preceeding this event? Is this sort of thing completely out of the blue or the sort of thing that seemed like it could have happened and finally did?

If there were family fights, she could have decided to stay with friends and they're standing behind her on this decision. If she was planning on meeting someone from the net, that would explain the remote so she could get back in at night.

Is she a vindictive person? Is she the sort who would deliberately try to twist the knife? The whole story about the police refusing to cooperate seems unreal. It's been more than 48 hours, they still won't take a missing persons' report? How did we determine she took a cab? The police won't follow up on that lead now that she's been missing for days?

If the police won't handle this, call the media. They'll make a big stink.

[ZombieNixon]

61. I'm really as clueless as you.

:shrug:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

69. Me too...

I wonder if anyone's looked into her e-mail etc. Sounds like a horrible invasion of privacy; but hell, this is an emergency.

[Midlodemocrat]

55. Kesha, your post reminds me of something that you might pass on to Lisa.

One of my daughter's friends was 'missing' very similarly to Sarah and the mom put the word out to the friends' moms. It worked. I would be you $1000 that the moms don't know that Sarah is missing, unless I have missed something.

Amazing how loyal they are when it doesn't matter. :eyes:

[auntAgonist]

57. It's incredible isn't it? I cannot

imagine keeping a child in my home without trying my damndest to find out why she isn't at her own house with her family. I know kids can be creative and good liars too. But geez ... parents need to dig deep and try to see what's really going on.


Thanks Midlodemocrat, your support is so appreciated.

kesha

[jollyreaper2112]

58. agreed

Seems insane that parents would cover for her like that. I could see parents covering if a kid was trying to escape from a bad family, a really bad situation. But if it's a kid having normal family problems and needing space, you'd think a responsible parent would let the other family know she needs some space for a few days before going back. The only way I could see her staying at a place and nobody fessing up would be if these are 18+ people living on their own, like a bunch of roommates sharing a house or something. It wouldn't be unheard of for a 13 year old to have friends or friends of friends who would have such a place to crash at. So again the question is "how well do you know her friends?"

[Midlodemocrat]

59. Please. Anything I can do, I will.

I will make calls, post things on the web, anything. I'm on the other side of the country, but my heart is just broken for her. I can't imagine enduring this.

Thank you, aA for what you are doing. You're a true friend. :hug:

[auntAgonist]

60. I'm in the same boat as you,

I'm just thankful that I'm off work till thursday and able to keep on posting updates. I feel very helpless, I can't just pick up and head to Colorada as much as I'd love to.

We all do what we can, that's what makes this (DU) such a great community. When someone is in need, we step up to the plate. I'm thankful for all the good wishes that have been heaped upon me at times.

:hug:

aA

[laylah]

124. They absolutely do!

Having gone through this with my own daughter, combing the streets for hours, talking to kids at her favorite hang out, these kids absolutely have a network and if they do not want to be found, they won't be! Sad. I know what rrr is going through and my heart goes out to her! :hug:

Jenn

[grannylib]

63. Thanks for the update...continuing to pray for them both...eom

[auntAgonist]

64. all we can do is hope and pray, thank you!

:hug:

aA

[grannylib]

65. I hope it was OK to pass this on to the Prayer Circle group...let them

help us storm heaven on Lisa and Sarah's behalf...

[auntAgonist]

66. I'm sure that would be appreciated grannylib

thank you for your efforts. Let's pray that Sarah is home TONIGHT.

This is getting to be quite frightening for RRR and her family.

aA
kesha
:hug:

[grannylib]

75. I know how frightening this is...my oldest went missing as a 14 -year old

and it's hell...
My heart is aching.
Will keep right on praying.

[auntAgonist]

89. ...

:hug:

thanks!

[auntAgonist]

67. Folks, it's going on FIVE nights now since Sarah was home...

I spoke with RRR on the phone earlier and to say she's worried is an understatement. I don't know how she's managing to hold up as well as she is. It must have something to do with all the good thoughts here.
The late nights and early mornings are very hard on her. When it's quiet and she has too much time to sit and think and isn't able to sleep. Please remember her in your prayers, your thoughts, your hearts.

Let's hope that Sarah is home tonight, safe and sound.

:yourock: DU, I'm proud to be associated with all of you.


sincerely
aA
kesha

[NC_Nurse]

68. She's got my prayers

My daughters pulled some shit when they were teens, but DAMN, 5 days! That sucks. My heart goes out to her. :cry:
I hope she calls and lets her mom know she's okay. It's so hard to raise girls these days...and boys, for that matter.
My baby boy just turned 18 and I worry about him too.
Hang in there RRR!!!!

[jobycom]

70. Thanks for your part, aA.

For keeping us informed, and staying in touch with R. You're a tremendous person. :yourock:

RRR... just hang in there, you.

[Katina]

71. absolutely

thank you for the updates. Prayers for rrr & Sarah. I can't imagine how hard this is for her.

[faithnotgreed]

76. i cannot even imagine

you are a true light in all this kesha (not that that hasnt been obvious before but i want to join in with others who thank you so so much)
i believe the courage and love and humanity that is outpouring will make a difference

all our love to rrr and sarah
hold tight

[seemunkee]

72. I keep checking these threads hoping to see some good news

My thoughts are with RRR. I hope Sarah comes home safe soon.

[auntAgonist]

73. I sure am hoping for some good news too!

:hug:

aA

[ikojo]

74. What about creating a myspace.com

page using pics of 3R's daughter and acting like it was put up by her...this way 3Rs would have the password etc and could monitor the messages coming in

[auntAgonist]

78. another shameless KICK

:kick:
5 nights is 5 nights too many !

aA

[AirmensMom]

79. You're absolutely right, auntA.

:cry: I keep checking these threads, hoping for some good news. Is anything happening at all?

[auntAgonist]

80. There isn't a lot to report really...

The police are dragging their butts. They have a small lead but if it dries up they are back to square one.
We keep hoping she'll just show up at home!

She's been gone so long now it's getting scarier by the hour. How does a child just disappear off the face of the earth? Further, how do people of authority NOT do something when it comes to a minor.
Lisa is doing as well as can be expected, she's frantic, trying to stay busy, chasing leads, hoping and wishing, just wanting her daughter to come home.

:cry: I find it hard to leave the computer, I keep waiting to hear good news.

aA

[GardeningGal]

81. What else can we do?

Aside from praying (or your equivalent), what is there any of us can do?

[auntAgonist]

83. If and when the decision is made to find and hire a private eye

There will be opportunity for all of us to give what ever we can to fund an investigation. Till then, hope, prayer or whatever you do in the privacy of your life belief structure is about all that can be done. I'm sure Lisa feels the support of so many of you even now.

thanks!

aA

[AirmensMom]

84. How frustrating.

:cry: But a small lead is better than no lead. Yes, it would be great if she would just show up at home.

What a sad time. I doubt there's a parent anywhere who can't relate to the horror ... either from having gone through it or imagining going through it. I don't have a clue why the authorities aren't all over this. It's pretty damn stupid that they can't see how a possible runaway situation can turn into something else.

I'm sure Lisa is frantic. This whole thing is just so frightening.

I'm hoping and praying for good news soon. Thanks for keeping us updated. :hug: :grouphug:

[FormerOstrich]

98. I've been trying to keep up with these threads.....they are

just heart wrenching. I don't have kids of my own, but I can tell you from about 13 until 18 I was a mother's worse nightmare (my poor mom....she didn't deserve the grief I caused).

My guess is she has found a group of 18+ to hang with. Friends her age really might not know who they are if they (the older crowd) befriended her recently.

At any rate, is there anyway rrr can try to get a warrant herself (to obtain information from the cab company). It is surreal to believe they won't be forthcoming but since they are not can she go to family court herself and have one issued?

If it were I, I would start telling the cops she was abducted. Start using different langauge. Call the FBI and tell them she has been abducted. RRR needs to put aside any qualms. Yell, Fire.

[Nicole]

82. 5 nights is 5 nights too many!

:kick:

[latebloomer]

86. A teenage girl from my NJ town ran away

a couple of months ago. The police got involved immediately, though it was clear she'd had an argument with her parents and left of her own volition. They did some sleuthing and she was found a couple of days later, hiding at some older kids' house.

I think RRR needs to raise hell and keep going up the chain of command till she gets the police to assist her.

All positive thoughts and visions for Sarah's quick return--

:hug:


on edit-- Has anyone suggested papering the town with flyers?

[auntAgonist]

88. that's being done, .. the fliers.

I believe there are more going out too

aA

[Lydia Leftcoast]

87. A suggestion

Sometimes kids run away because they think it's "romantic" to be on their own, and by the time reality sets in, they don't want to go home because they're afraid that their parents will reject them.

It's possible that this girl ran away, took up with some street kids (who distrust authorities on a gut level), and is now (in her emotional adolescent way of thinking) afraid to come home.

Is there a shelter or program for street kids in Colorado Springs? Could you contact them and have them circulate her picture among their clients, emphasizing that she will be welcome back home, and that she should at least phone and alleviate her family's worries? The staff of the program or shelter will also know where street kids hang out or the locations where they crash at night.

If she is on the streets, it's important to get her home as soon as possible, before she gets acculturated to that subculture, but it may be hard to find her, due to the kids' unwillingness to tell on one another.

[jollyreaper2112]

90. 5 days and no cops?

Something doesn't sound right here. What are the cops saying specifically, that they don't want the case? This makes no sense.

[auntAgonist]

93. the police have been involved

a missing person report is filed. BUT they think she's 'just' a runaway, therefore they don't actively search I guess. :shrug:

She's 13 and at risk, WHY NOT SEARCH? ? ? ? ?


arghhhh

aA

[GoddessOfGuinness]

95. That's an infuriating attitude!

Maybe she should talk with supervisors...

[lizziegrace]

166. She has... n/t

[deadparrot]

91. Kick.

More good thoughts and vibes on the way. :kick:

[auntAgonist]

92. when it's quiet and she can't sleep ..

that's when it's really hard on RRR. Send those good thoughts along that she might get some really good rest tonight.

:yourock: Du

thanks
aA

[Dangerously Amused]

94. Bless her heart, she must be utterly and completely physically exhausted.

And sick with worry, too.


:cry:


Best vibes for rrr's deep and restful sleep tonight, to help her better cope with this awful situation again in the morning (god forbid it's still there, but just in case).

[u4ic]

97. Continuing to send positive energy

rrr and her daughter's way.

What she must be going through...:cry:

[Nicole]

100. I hope she's resting now.

:kick:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

96. If she badgers the local media, and gets on the news telling her story,

that will put pressure on the police dept. to get off their ass.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

99. Yes, there must be someone at the local newspaper (maybe a columnist)

or TV station who can take up this case, put the story out, and most importantly, pressure the police to do something.

[auntAgonist]

101. I'm going to bed soon ... I'll be here to post

any news should there be any developments.


Keep a good thought, swing some rubber chickens, say a prayer and go look in on your children if you have any ... blow them a kiss as you pass by their bedroom.

goodnight.

aA

[CraftyGal]

102. Is ther anything new...

TrogL and I are very concerned.

Crafty :hug: :kick:

[reyd reid reed]

103. I'm sorry

I haven't been here and updated...and aA...you're truly an angel. As is everyone else here.

:hug:

She still isn't home...but...and there is a 'but'...I got a call tonight from someone whose daughter knows the guy that Sarah was wanting to see...that we believe she's with. We have two new phone numbers to look into, the name of a roommate, and a place of employment.

This is more information than we've had since this whole thing started.

The girl who knows this guy is going to try and get a good address...we thought that we might have had one...but apparently they moved a month or so ago. My oldest son went out there to check (couple that live there was probably tickled pink to see my kids at their door at close to midnight)...but we're just beginning.

I called the police with the new information...would you believe they transferred me to a VOICE MAIL??? They quit at 5 p.m.???? Just when I think I've seen the lowest that the police department in this town can sink...they come up with a new one.

Don't ever have a problem here.

They did get more actively involved today, though. I got a call from a different officer...one who mentioned getting an e-mail...who verified all the information that I had already given them and then asked for more. She called back later today...saying, "I'm trying to located a missing girl named Sarah Heaver." "This is her mother." "Oh. I guess...how did I? Oh. Well." Then she told me that they were getting some cooperation from the cab company. Apparently she was picked up in the neighbor's driveway at 3:31 Saturday morning...but she was waiting on the address.

What else is new?

She did say that if the address didn't turn anything up, they were back to square one...if they'd gotten to the damn address sooner....then...

Shit.

But that was before I got the calls I got tonight.

I'm trying to track the phone numbers...keep your fingers crossed. Maybe the end is in sight.

:hug:

You are all the BEST.

[auntAgonist]

104. I'm glad you posted R, I didn't want to divulge any new

information without hearing from you again.

There is hope. Keep that hope alive. But do try to get some good restful sleep tonight.

We'll be here, good thoughts, prayers and best wishes.

DU never closes! ! !


aA
kesha.
:loveya: :hug:

[TrogL]

105. kick

to put it above the other thread

:kick:

[CraftyGal]

108. TrogL and I are...

here for you.

:hug: :hug: :hug: :loveya:

[u4ic]

106. Luck, vibes, mojo, candles, hope,

tie a "Sarah" ribbon round the old oak tree...fingers, toes, eyes crossed.

I hope you find her soon, Lisa. :hug:

[CC]

107. I keep checking and did email my relatives

in CO. :hug: Try to sleep or at least rest a bit. Keeping a candle lit and sending positive thoughts your way and keeping you all in my prayers.

[Dangerously Amused]

109. Hope! A glimmer of hope!

Oh rrr, I am so happy for these leads, and SO happy to hear that the police and cab company are finally doing SOMETHING to help you! I haven't been posting here much because I don't want to make the thread unwieldy, but rest assured that I check in here OFTEN and that you are in my thoughts continuously throughout the day, dear heart. If you read this please don't feel obligated to reply; I know you would if you could, but you have FAR more important things demanding your energy and attention right now and I would rather you save it for them, okay?


Keep the faith, sweetie. I love you!


:hug:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

111. Well that all at least sounds hopeful

I wish you the best. Sorry for the experience you have had with the local cops.

[Ghost in the Machine]

115. I have a membership with Net Detective, I could try to run the number

through it for you. I don't know if it would do any good or not, but I'd be willing to try. You could also do a reverse phone number lookup on google. This tells you how ~>>> http://websearch.about.com/od/dailywebsearchtips/qt/dnt0703.htm

Ghost

[MissHoneychurch]

116. Thanks for the update rrr

good vibes keep coming your way. I really hope your daughter comes back soon :hug:

[jollyreaper2112]

117. a kind of answer at least

I suppose that's a positive sign, that she's at least where she wants to be even if she isn't telling you. Did the friends tell you anything about this guy? Is he local, is he around her age or significantly older? Is this just young idiot love or what here?

[txwhitedove]

118. Good to hear from you, RRR, and glad you got some leads.

With everyone looking for Sarah, you have cast a net of love around your town
and around the heart of DU. We are keeping your family in our thoughts.
:hug:

[LynzM]

120. Keeping you guys in my thoughts....

I hope that she is home soon and safe. :hug:

[koopie57]

123. My son's girlfriend

did something similar. He had broken up with her and she was trying to get back at him. He finally found her on line in chat and got her address where she was. He asked me if he could go get her and I said no, that her parents needed to pick her up. I talked to her and asked her if I could contact her parents (which I was going to do anyway, but I thought it would be best to get her permission if I could).

By this time she was afraid to come home but we worked out that her dad would pick up my son and go get her together. I understand how it feels to know she is out there, but where. I pray all not only works out, but it does so soon.

[femmocrat]

125. Thanks for keeping us informed.... Still praying here....

but I have a feeling that Sarah will be home soon.

I might have missed this... did anyone pursue "Interfering with the custody of a minor child" charges?

[TBreeze]

126. Wishing the best

I hope she's home safe and sound soon. :hug:

[theboss]

129. How old is the guy? Wouldn't the police be interested in that aspect?

I can kinda, sorta, maybe understand their relative indifference to a teenager who leaves home willingly for a few days. I imagine that if police departments tracked down teenagers who ran to friends' houses without permission, that is all they would do.

But if a 13-year-old is shacking up with an adult, well, that strikes me as another kettle of fish.

Particularly, since my experience is any adult involved in a situation like this probably has a record...or outstanding warrants...or unpaid traffic tickets...or some reason to get the police to their door.

[Whoa_Nelly]

110. Kicking

[Jazz2006]

112. You know, if you post the local police station number....

so that a whole bunch of DUers can start calling it... I think they'll get off their asses...

Just a thought.

[Jamastiene]

114. Kick.

[michaelpush]

145. Do a search in white pages for Colorado Springs

Police dept...

[michaelpush]

147. here it is...

AREA NON-EMERGENCY NUMBERS
all numbers are a 719 prefix unless otherwise noted
Directory Assistance 1-411 Guffey 689-2555
Colorado Springs Police 444-7000 Manitou Springs Police 685-5407
El Paso County Sheriff
Including the communities of: Black Forest; Calhan; Chipita Park; Cimarron Hills; El Paso; Ellicott; Falcon; Monument; Palmer Lake; Peyton; Rush; Security; Widefield; Woodmoor 390-5555 Teller County Sheriff
Including the communities of: Divide; Florrissant 687-9652
Cripple Creek Police 689-2655 Monument Police 481-3253
Douglas County Sheriff 303-660-7505 Palmer Lake Marshall 481-2934
Fountain Police 382-8555 Victor Police 689-2284
Park County Sheriff 748-3888 Woodland Park Police 687-9262
Fort Carson Military Police 526-2333
Green Mountain Falls Marshall 684-9415

[wildhorses]

113. thanks for the update, aA...what else can we do?

:hug:

[AirmensMom]

119. Morning kick.

:kick: We're still here for you, rrr. :loveya: :grouphug:

[Brewman_Jax]

121. I'm sorry to hear

I hope she returns home quickly.

[elehhhhna]

122. kick

[auntAgonist]

141. thanks and KICK :)

[hedgehog]

127. Kick

[RevolutionStartsNow]

128. I keep checking these threads, and the tears always come

for RRR, and her daughter, and the pain RRR must be going through. I have a 14 year old daughter who is asleep downstairs in her room, but I know this could just as easily be her. She's a good kid, as I'm sure Sarah is too, but they are so young and sometimes so stupid.

I remember that feeling when she was a newborn, when I would check to make sure she was still breathing every 30 minutes at night, just panicked about how I would keep this tiny little creature alive day after day. Once they get a little bigger that feeling goes away, but now that she's a teenager all those feelings are coming back...how do I keep her safe?

I'll continue to pray for Sarah's safe return....Sending love, RRR....

[LibertyLover]

130. Thank you for updating us

The run-around Lisa is getting from people who advertise that they are there to "serve and protect" is beyond wrong. I hope with all my heart that the next update is good news. May the Goddess keep her strong and bring her daughter back home safely soon.

[auntAgonist]

131. nothing new, but another kick to keep it up front.

aA

[AirmensMom]

133. Thanks, auntA.

:hug: :grouphug:

Are they considering a PI yet?

[auntAgonist]

134. As of this morning

There's been no decision made that way. There are those of us who are ready to jump in and work on it if and when Lisa and her family decide to go that route.

The longer Sarah stays away, I THINK the harder it will be to find her. This situation is becoming quite frightening.

:hug:

thanks for your ongoing support AirmensMom.

aA

[AirmensMom]

135. Count me in if they decide to go for it.

I can't give much, but every little bit will help.

I believe you are correct, and it becomes more frightening every day ... every hour. We need to crank up those positive vibes. :hug: :grouphug:

You're welcome ... and thank YOU for being there for Lisa and keeping us updated. :hug:

[Sweet Freedom]

132. Kick /nt

[lildreamer316]

136. Kick.

Love love love

[LaraMN]

137. I really hope RRR is getting some rest,

this has got to be so emotionally draining; I can't imagine. Hugs and more good vibes to the whole RRR family. Thanks for keeping us posted, AA.

[auntAgonist]

138. I hope so too Lara

I'm sure she's running on a lot of nervous energy right now.

:hug:
aA

[ScreamingMeemie]

139. I keep clicking, hoping to hear she is safe...

I am out of my mind with worry for rrr...

You had asked in another thread, and I didn't get a chance to reply. My daughter is 16 and I just don't know what I would do if she went missing. My heart is just breaking here. :cry:

[auntAgonist]

140. Me too MrsG!

I have this thread open more than any other. I keep watching and praying, every time I get a PM I HOPE it's Lisa messaging to tell me she's home.

Just gotta keep hoping.
aA

[MissMillie]

143. me too... I hope I never know what this is like.

rrr.... :hug:

[auntAgonist]

142. I keep on kicking, and I'm sure you ALL are

still hoping and wishing and praying right along with me.


DU :yourock:

thanks for all the support you offer.

aA

[AirmensMom]

144. Another kick.

:grouphug:

Still hoping and praying that Sara comes home soon.

[auntAgonist]

146. thank you !

[Kat45]

148. Kick to keep the thread up front

[auntAgonist]

149. Latest Information I have ....

So far nothing new. I'm back to waiting on phone calls. I'm on my way out in a few minutes to put out more flyers. And I've e-mailed the flyers to people all over town and talked to the people from beyondmissing this morning...and they're already working on it so I really am encouraged.

Now if people would just pick up the damned phone.

*sigh*

So, who knows what could be going on behind the scenes. Beyond Missing is working on things, that gives us some hope.

More when I have it. And thank you to all who are sending me messages and keeping this kicked.

aA
kesha.

[Mutley]

150. Thanks for letting us know, aA.

:hug:

[lildreamer316]

151. kick.n/t

[GoddessOfGuinness]

152. Seems like we should post her daughter's pic on the homepage...

I feel certain the mods would agree...
It's been several days now.

[auntAgonist]

153. I have sent a private message to Skinner

but as of now I've not gotten ANY response. I'll try again later on today. I agree, her picture should be up front for all to see.
I've asked Admin to pin a thread at the top of the lounge page, no response :(

I guess they're busy.

aA
:grouphug:

[AirmensMom]

155. Great idea, auntA!

I hope they'll do it. Meanwhile, we'll keep this kicked.

Thanks again for the latest update.

:grouphug:

[coffeenap]

154. kick

:hug:

[auntAgonist]

156. thanks for the kick coffeenap!

:hug:

aA

[Radio_Lady]

157. OMG, what a terrible situation. Will Nancy Grace on TV run her picture?

I don't know if it's too soon or what the parameters are for her program.

What about John Walsh on "America's Most Wanted"? Does he just post pictures of felons, etc. or children, too?

Larry King sometimes does these missing children, too. But he may be on vacation.

Sorry, I have no email addresses and have to rush on to something else that's less important, but due, nevertheless.

Also, have you tried to contact her school (even though it's closed for the summer)? They might have a secretary there or the principal checking in. Perhaps you can even do a telephone chain or whatever they call them, if you can get telephone numbers of classmates, friends, etc.

I'll keep thinking.

If you need me, please PM. I do a radio program in Oregon, but it doesn't reach Colorado (except via computer).

I'll be looking and listening for some good news.

Radio_Lady

[Oeditpus Rex]

158. Here's the latest — and it's not good

I'm on the phone with Lisa right now. She found out where the cab took Sarah — to the mall.

A cab took a 13-year-old girl to a mall at 3:30 in the morning.

The real bitch is, she obviously met someone there, or at least planned to. The big question now is, and went where from there?

Damn. Just... damn.

[auntAgonist]

160. thanks O.R. As Lisa and I were talking about

earlier. She may have gone voluntarily, but may not be able to get away as easily. this is becoming more and more frightening as the hours go by.

I've emailed the top 3 Admins and hopefully we'll get the message up on the front page.

:hug:
aA

[OhioBlue]

163. still keeping Lisa and Sarah in my thoughts.

I'm sure all the questions have already been asked of the driver... did they see any other cars, what did Sarah carry with her... etc...

Let us know when it's time for a PI - I'm not wealthy, but can donate some and know many other DUers must feel the same way.

:hug:

[blondeatlast]

161. Doubling up on my prayers for all involved.

Thanks for the update.

I only hope this is as close as I'll ever get to this. Damn.

[SeattleGirl]

162. Ah, man! I hope to God she's okay, wherever she is.

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, please come home, or at least call your mom. Believe me, nothing, NOTHING, is so bad that you can't come back home. Be mad at your mom, whatever, just let her know you're okay. As a parent myself, when push comes to shove, I will always and forever accept my child, as I know your mom accepts you, and just wants you to be safe and home.

And for rrr: :hug: :grouphug: :hug:

[auntAgonist]

164. this IS every parents nightmare ..

thanks for your ongoing support and heartfelt message.


aA
kesha
:hug:

[lizziegrace]

165. She's been working with a national organization

I got a PM saying one individual from the group is helping so much.

I just pray it isn't too little, too late.

[Donailin]

168. Why isn't there an AMBER ALERT?

After five nights missing? and getting dropped off at a mall in the middle of the night? and she's only 13, a minor? is there not a detective on this case yet??

something stinks here. .

[Donailin]

170. From the Center for Missing and Exploited Children Homepage

http://www.missingkids.com/

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children

Act immediately if you believe that your child is missing.

* If your child is missing from home, search the house checking closets, piles of laundry, in and under beds, inside old refrigerators—wherever a child may crawl or hide.

* If you still cannot find your child, immediately call your local law-enforcement agency.

* If your child disappears in a store, notify the store manager or security office. Then immediately call your local law-enforcement agency. Many stores have a Code Adam plan of action—if a child is missing in the store, employees immediately mobilize to look for the missing child.

* When you call law enforcement, provide your child's name, date of birth, height, weight, and any other unique identifiers such as eyeglasses and braces. Tell them when you noticed that your child was missing and what clothing he or she was wearing.

* Request that your child's name and identifying information be immediately entered into the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) Missing Person File.

* After you have reported your child missing to law enforcement, call the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children on our toll-free telephone number, 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678). If your computer is equipped with a microphone and speakers you may talk to one of our Hotline operators via the Internet


I hope to God RRR has done these things. . .

[Quakerfriend]

178. Yes, I gave her the 800 number several days ago.

I do hope that she is in touch with them and getting help.

Prayers and light going out to the whole family tonight.:grouphug: O8)

[lizziegrace]

171. An Amber Alert is for an abduction

known victim and known (or identified) abductor. When all this started, she had willingly left her home in a cab.

The Amber Alert organization has a specific purpose under the law.

(I'm an Amber Alert volunteer...)

[lizziegrace]

172. It's because the Colorado Springs PD

classified her as a "runaway". All this hinges on what the PD decides to do, or in this case, not do.

[jobycom]

169. That might help, if the cops get serious. There might be a security cam

somewhere to pick up the car. At that hour, there wouldn't be many cars around.

DOn't know what to say. This could mean so many things, some of them hopeful. Why the damned cops didn't find out about the mall on Saturday is beyond me.

[mountainvue]

181. Does the mall have a surveillance

camera in the parking lot?

[tjdee]

159. Glad to hear some news... hoping you find her soon.

I'm sure RRR is beside herself. Wishing so many hugs to her family.

[elehhhhna]

167. kick. I swear when she comes home I'm flying up from Houston to ground

her myself.

[AirmensMom]

173. Another kick.

Be safe, Sarah! :hug: :grouphug:

Thinking about you all constantly, rrr. Stay strong. :hug:

[auntAgonist]

174. Kick ...

[Kajsa]

175. And kick .

:kick:

[mzteris]

176. kick

(I'd like to kick the police's collective @sses for not doing anything in the first place!)

[blondeatlast]

177. Agreed. What the hell were they thinking?

:mad:

[Jazz2006]

179. Keeping this kicked. nt

[peacefreak]

180. Keeping this kicked

& keeping good thoughts for RRR & Sarah.

[AirmensMom]

182. Kicking.

This is so heartbreaking. I'll continue to send good vibes and prayers for Sarah's safe return. :grouphug:

[auntAgonist]

183. your prayers and vibes are working ........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5421627&mesg_id=5421627

[AirmensMom]

184. OMG, thanks!

How did I miss that thread? Thank you for the link! :hug:

[lavenderdiva]

185. Locking

Locking at auntAgonist's request...