Buzz Aldrin..We saw a UFO

[Buttercup McToots]

Excerpt
link:
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17435592&method=full&siteid=66633&headline=man-on-moon--we-saw-a-ufo-name_page.html

24 July 2006
MAN ON MOON: WE SAW A UFO
Astronauts' close encounter
By Mike Swain
THE first men to walk on the Moon reported seeing a UFO, a new TV documentary reveals.

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon's surface after Neil Armstrong, says space agency bosses covered up their sighting.

And the Apollo 11 astronauts were also careful not to talk ab out it openly.

[originalpckelly]

1. Of course the other nuts will think that they couldn't have seen the UFO..

because they didn't even go to the moon.

Alien CTists v. Moon landing CTists. Ought to be very interesting.

[Fox Mulder]

3. I take it you don't think the moon landing was filmed in a soundstage...

in New Mexico?

[Richard Steele]

49. The soundstage was just a "plan B" in case we didn't make it.

The moon missions were the largest, most expensive
nationalist PR stunt in history.

Failure was very seriously NOT an option.

[Fox Mulder]

2. Interesting...

[htuttle]

4. I thought I'd heard about this years ago

I don't think it was the last time astronauts saw something odd up there, either.

Nowdays, they'd probably write a sighting like this off as space junk, but there was a lot less junk up there in the late 1960's...

[BrotherBuzz]

39. Edgar Mitchell (Apollo 14) experienced something, too

The vision for creating the Institute of Noetic Sciences came in 1971. Nations throughout the world had galvanized around the exciting frontier of space exploration. The potential for scientific understanding of our world seemed unlimited to a naval air captain named Edgar Mitchell. He was a pragmatic young test pilot, engineer and scientist; a mission to the moon on Apollo 14 was his "dream come true." Space exploration symbolized for Dr Mitchell what it did for his nation as a whole—technological triumph of historical proportions, unprecedented mastery of the world in which we live, and extraordinary potentials for new discoveries.

But it was the trip home that Mitchell recalls most. Sitting in the cramped cabin of the space capsule, he saw planet Earth floating freely in the vastness of space. He was engulfed by a profound sense of universal connectedness—an epiphany. In Mitchell's own words: "The presence of divinity became almost palpable, and I knew that life in the universe was not just an accident based on random processes. . . . The knowledge came to me directly."

Mitchell faced a critical challenge. As a physical scientist, he had grown accustomed to directing his attention to the objective world "out there." But the experience that came to him in space led him to a startling hypothesis: Perhaps reality is more complex, subtle, and inexorably mysterious than conventional science had led him to believe. Perhaps a deeper understanding of consciousness (inner space) could lead to a new and expanded view of reality in which objective and subjective, outer and inner, are understood as co-equal aspects of the miracle and mystery of being.

After his safe return "home," Mitchell sought out others who likewise felt the need for an expanded, more inclusive view of reality. They resolved to explore the inner world of human experience with the same rigor and critical thinking that made it possible for Apollo 14 to journey to the moon and back. In 1973, this small group of explorers founded the Institute of Noetic Sciences—derived from the Greek word nous, meaning something close to "intuitive ways of knowing."

<more>

http://www.noetic.org/about/history.cfm

[Deep13]

46. Ed Mitchell conducted psychic experiments while flying back from the moon.

They were unauthorized, of course, and the commander, Al Shepard, did not know about them until he read it in the newspaper. Mitchel did his astronaut job well, but he is a bit of a flakey puff.

[Buttercup McToots]

55. I wouldn't call him a flakey puff

what if you experienced what he did?
Lots of people experience Epiphany
I remember reading about that...
Epiphany

A sudden manifestation of the essence or meaning of something.
A comprehension or perception of reality by means of a sudden intuitive realization: “I experienced an epiphany, a spiritual flash that would change the way I viewed myself” (Frank Maier).

[LaurenG]

5. My father tracked many UFOs on radar

in the 50's and 60's while in the army.

[Fox Mulder]

6. Were any of those UFOs extraterrestrial?

[LaurenG]

9. Nobody knows what they were, or at least no one ever said. Anyway

they didn't land. They just went 100,000 mph and made 90 degree turns across the sky without slowing down and things like that. :shrug:

[Rude Horner]

7. Pet Peeve: Just a reminder

UFO just means it was unidentifed and it was flying. It doesn't necessarily mean it was alien. Just sayin'....

[Marie26]

8. This is a tabloid. nt

[feduppuke]

10. Wasn't there

a great Frazier episode along these lines? I think John Glenn came into the studio as a guest to record a discussion abuot his day as an astronaut and wound up rambling about seeing UFOs and meeting aliens-then he needed the tape back at the end.

A great episode before Frazier jumped the shark, but I would be amazed if Aldren really spoke to a British tabloid, much less admitted something like this.

[Minstrel Boy]

19. The article is quoting Aldrin's words in a new documentary,

he didn't speak to the British tabloid.

[Chiyo-chichi]

11. I actually watched a new documentary with Dan Ackroyd about UFOs

over the weekend - just because I was bored. Astronaut Gordon Cooper was in it talking about his sightings.

Ackroyd with Anderson Cooper talking about it:
http://www.vidilife.com/index.cfm?f=media.play&vchrMediaProgramIDCryp=DB4378BF-F786-46CB-BA72-6&action=10

[Beelzebud]

37. I saw that documentary... What a joke.

I almost puked when the narrator compared Dan Akroyd to Albert Einstein...

[Chiyo-chichi]

40. Oh yeah, he did, didn't he?

At least Ackroyd laughed at that.
I, too, thought some of it was flighty (pardon the pun.)

Although the docu on string theory last night on PBS was just a hair away from what Dan was saying about trans-dimensional travel.

[Beelzebud]

41. Thats because Dan probably watched the same documentary. :D

It's no suprise that he talked about a 5th spacial dimension being milimeters from your skin. That is exactly what the Elegant Universe documentary on PBS said, nearly verbatim.

[anarch]

12. Ali G: "What do you say to conspiracy theorists who claim

that there is no moon?"

Buzz Aldrin: "Umm...I don't think anyone actually says that. There is a moon, and we did land on it."

AG: "When do you think we will go to the sun?"

BA: "We couldn't land on the sun, it's much too hot."

AG: "Couldn't we go in the winter? When it was cooler?"

BA: "..."

[mrbassman03]

42. I was dying during that interview!

Off to go download, I mean buy, some episodes of Ali G...

[SlavesandBulldozers]

57. lol

loved that interview, and Aldrin would have made a great teacher, the amount of patience he had - and he never lost his cool.

another of my faves was when Ali kept messing up Newt gingrich's name, then asked Newt to spell it for him. the look on newt's face was priceless.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Buzz Aldrin couldn't possibly have seen that UFO.

We were using our cloaking device.

[blonndee]

14. Wow, I thought that was just a joke on Frasier! nt

[Blue_Tires]

16. that's what i thought

[NNN0LHI]

15. Is this the same astronut who saw Noah's Ark from space too n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

31. I'm not sure but I think that was Frank Borman.

The guy who read genesis from Apollo 8.

[gulfcoastliberal]

17. I ahve family members who fly commercial jets.

Every single one of them have seen UFOs that couldn't possibly be human made. The airline has a strict hush-hush policy about the sightings. They're mostoften seen as trans oceanic flights. I seeno reason why they'd lie and risk ridicule.

[NNN0LHI]

21. I wonder why with the hundreds of high resolution satellites in space...

...none of them seem able to snap a photo of one of them? They can read what brand of cigarettes I smoke but they are unable see some flying saucer zooming around over my house? I wonder how that could be?

Don

[Chiyo-chichi]

24. I'm not necessarily a UFO believer, but...

who is to say that such satellites don't photograph them all the time? The photos would not be released to the public if the governement wanted to cover up the existance of UFOs.

[NNN0LHI]

26. Our government doesn't own them all though

Many other governments have them. Even countries we don't like have them. And there are plenty of commercial satellites too.

You think the USA might be in cahoots with them all?

Don

[Chiyo-chichi]

43. Nah, we are only in cahoots with the UK.

That's the only govt. we get along with. The rest of them either supress their satellite photos of alien spacecraft on their own so that thier citizenry won't panic... or they are supressed by the MIB.

BTW, I am just goofin' around. You make a perfectly good point. I am 90% skeptical, but it's an interesting subject.

[gulfcoastliberal]

33. I think the spy satellites capabilities are overrated

Why can't they find OBL? WMDs? North Korea's missile launching sites? Insurgent hideouts? IEDs?

In any case, even if they DID capture them, ya think the military would release the evidence?

[michaelpush]

45. The satellites can only see the small stuff...

:tinfoilhat:

[azmouse]

47. I've always wondered why UFOs land in backwater areas

and not on a university campus. If they are really interested in us why not land in a place with some educated people to talk to.
As you could guess, I don't believe we've been contacted by extraterrestrial life. Look at the distances involved and what a teeny, tiny planet we live on. Who would find us?

[Sequoia]

58. Like this man

[SlavesandBulldozers]

59. Bill Hicks opined the reason they did that was

"some kind of intergalactic clean up the universe pact, ya know. . . fly into a backwater area, abduct, clean their teeth, sterilize them then let them go".

lol

[Beelzebud]

62. "I'm on my flying saucer tour!"

"Like aliens, I appear in front of small groups of rednecks in southern towns."

I miss Bill. :(

[SlavesandBulldozers]

64. lol!

me too.

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. They should videotape them

Many cellphone have video cameras in them

[Javaman]

18. My B-I-L was a fighter pilot in viet nam...

On many of his missions, he and his wing man saw quite a few of them. He went onto be a pilot with an airlines. And saw some interesting things. Now that he's retired he's more free with that info. While he was in the Navy, they all saw them, but no one said a thing, same with the airlines.

[Buttercup McToots]

20. Coming forward

A couple/few astronauts have come forward with stories like this, I hope more do if they really saw something. They're one source I don't think you can really debunk very much. They've been there and the rest of us haven't.

Aldrin is like the holy Grail though isn't he....for years he denied denied denied ....now if he's coming forward hopefully more soild evidence will follow ....then one day who knows? Maybe even PROOF of something!

[Javaman]

28. Maybe yes, maybe no...

It's sort of an unwriten code of conduct. They all see them, yet if anyone talks about it, they are labeled a kook.

Over every battle field in the history of the world, flying objects have been seen. There some great stories from WWI and WWII fliers.

There was a great story I read one time years ago about a WWII B-17 crew on their return from a bombing mission over Germany were "tracked" side by side with a "foo fighter" (UFO term used then) for about 20 minutes. Then just vanished straight up.

[teenagebambam]

23. Saw this documentary last night

They had film of the "UFO" from the capsule's window. No one could figure out what it was, so the astronauts were just like "oh well" and went to sleep.

Not just Apollo 11 either, but other space flights have seen similar things (the image they showed was, as I recall, not from Apollo 11 but from a later Apollo flight)

[dave29]

25. they thought it might be one of their boosters

tagging along... but NASA told them the booster was 6000 nautical miles away. They didn't mention it again... and I don't recall when they lost sight of it.

[GumboYaYa]

27. My former step-grandfather (yes my family is that dysfunctional)

was a B-52 pilot. He swears he saw them and so did many other air force pilots.

[Buttercup McToots]

30. UFO= UAP

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
link:
http://www.space.com/news/060622_alien_encounters.html
snip>
There have been advances in the field of UFO research, said Ted Roe, Executive Director of the National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP), based in Vallejo, California.

"The capture of optical spectra from mobile, unpredictable luminosities is one of those innovations. More work to be done here but some good results already."

Paradigm shifting

NARCAP has made the case that some of these phenomena have unusual electromagnetic properties. Therefore, they could disrupt microprocessors and adversely effect avionic systems, Roe explained, and that for those reasons and others UAP should be considered a hazard to safe aviation.

"It is likely that either conclusion will fly in the face of the general assertion that UAP are not real and that there are no undocumented phenomena in our atmosphere," Roe continued. That should open the door, he said, to the realization that there's no good reason to discard outright the possibility that extraterrestrial visitation has occurred and may be occurring.

"Physics is leading to new and potentially paradigm shifting understandings about the nature of our universe and its physical properties," Roe said. "These understandings may point the way towards an acceptance of the probability of interstellar travel and communication by spacefaring races."

[NJCher]

54. You Win "Subject Line of the Day" with that one

My former step-grandfather (yes my family is that dysfunctional)

LOL.




Cher

[porphyrian]

29. People see UFOs all the time.

UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. It doesn't automatically mean alien, otherworldly or even unexplainable, simply that the observer was unable to identify the object at the time.

[ProfessorGAC]

32. What Porphyrian Said!

I've seen one. I never assumed it was of alien origin. It's just that i could not identify what it was. It was in the sky, moving fast. Therefore, it's an Unidentified Flying Object! But, wasn't looking for ET.
The Professor

[zbdent]

34. There are UFOs! The acronym stands for

"Unidentified" Flying Objects. Get it?

Now, if they can figure out what it was, then it is no longer an UNIDENTIFIED object.

Now, extraterrestrial life? I hope so. I'd hate to think that we're all alone in this universe. I'd like to think that we're not alone. If the righties are correct, that we (meaning the Humans) are the best that God came up with ... that's where I agree with the Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - "Who is this God Guy, anyway?"

[WoodyTobiasJr]

35. NASA videos

Some footage that NASA took that have UFOs in them

http://youtube.com/results?search=nasa+ufo&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

[Buttercup McToots]

38. Whoa...

Banned UFO filmed from the shuttle...?
Is that real?
How come I never heard about it?
Inquiring minds want to know...:yoiks:

[Beelzebud]

36. UFO = Unidentified Flying Object.

It doesn't instantly mean aliens...

[Deep13]

44. He's not saying it was a space alien.

My guess:

Either the third stage of the rocket booster which in fact followed them to the moon or some debris from it.

[RedCloud]

48. PEOPLE OF PLANET EARTH BEWARE!

You have insulted us. You explore other galaxies looking for signs of extraterrestrial intelligence with your radio satellites thereby insulting the many wonder kids from your own old galaxy. And why do you think the Ori have radios? Because you do? And did you know they don't even have ears? So why the fuck would they send sound signals.

We are from your galaxy, but not your dimension.

We communicate by making you feel itchy sensations. Why can't you morans make sense of us you wide ass three dimensional beings.

And we were just buzzing around Buzz Aldrin as we take your language very literally.

(PS. I just translated this outer space message by redeeming ten box tops of Kix for a space message decoder!)

[Benfea]

50. Everyone has seen UFOs.

If you see something flying and you don't know what it is, you've seen a UFO. What I don't understand is why so many people assume every UFO must be an extraterrestrial spacecraft. Doesn't it occur to these nuts that the number of UFO sightings went up dramatically after the advent of heavier-than-air flight?

[plcdude]

51. lest anyone forget

take a look at this from a previous DU thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3637566

[Benfea]

52. Meh. I talk to enough kooks in the course of the day. -NT

[Deja Q]

53. A fruit fly just flew past my monitor too.

Oops, by saying this I can't cover it up.

Trouble is, do you believe me when I say there was a fruit fly that just flew past my monitor...

[Frank Cannon]

56. Sorry, but that's not a UFO

Since you've already identified it as a fruit fly, it doesn't qualify as an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO).

So sorry. :(

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. Yeah, but what's his name?

Who knows?

Unidentified.

[Frank Cannon]

61. Ya got me there

I'm guessing its name is Melvin H. Cowznofski, but I can't say for sure.

Unidentified it is.

:shrug:

[Ghost in the Machine]

63. ANYBODY who can look up into the sky at night, see all those stars

and vastness, and think that this is the only intelligent life in this whole universe has GOT to be deluded....