TimeChaser
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:51 PM
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Why does one "admit" to being gay? |
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"Admit" just always seems like a negative word. :shrug:
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:54 PM
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1. It really is. Like one has been deliberately lying all the time |
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about not being gay - which, in a lot of instances is true, but in most of the instances I know the lies were deliberate so that the person wouldn't get killed and/or beat severely or otherwise treated inhumanely.
We need a better word that denotes the person is doing something courageous and honorable. Perhaps "Proclaims" or "announces" (though that one is kind of funny, too) or some such.
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:58 PM
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6. Declare, or assert perhaps... |
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"Come out" works in a less formal setting.
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:55 PM
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2. I think if you hid and denied something for years, then "admit" makes |
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sense...but in general, I think a better word is "acknowledge."
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:56 PM
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Gay people are expected to walk around wearing rainbow coats with pink triangles sewn on the arms. :sarcasm:
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:56 PM
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4. That's a very good question. |
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It's always framed in terms of hiding this evil secret. Even "being open about it" somehow conjures images of sinister happenings.
God, it's not being gay should be equated with being an axe murderer or something.
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Wed Jul-26-06 03:57 PM
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5. Because if they admit to being gay.... |
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They ge all the wonderful prizes behind door number 1....
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:19 PM
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7. After I convert 50, I get this... |
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:24 PM
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10. geez you're behind...after I get one more I get to upgrade to |
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Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 04:24 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
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HarukaTheTrophyWife
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:29 PM
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11. Well, we already have one in the basement. |
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:37 PM
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13. You just want the footballer don't you? |
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He looks very good at playing with balls too. :evilgrin:
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:48 PM
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19. I'd take one of each... |
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and are you talking from expereince? :evilgrin:
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:00 PM
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24. I've driven a few women to the other side.... |
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I should get an appliance store...
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:51 AM
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Only gay people can earn appliances. We get the toasters for winning the people you push over.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:22 PM
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8. Because "STRAIGHT" people define linguistic definitions and framing. |
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:23 PM
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9. I just wish people would only do it once. |
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But Lance Bass will be 'admittedly gay' from here on out. I personally would rather people stay in the closet, if it is someone I really like, than have to hear them referred to as 'admittely gay' for the rest of my and their lives.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:33 PM
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and I don't see why it's a problem. Straight people don't have to "admit" anything, because people just assume you're straight unless you say otherwise.
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:14 PM
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25. I've heard both, and actually, it's just 'gay'. |
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Both adjectives are unnecessary because both imply that it is something that should be concealed.
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:59 PM
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27. I wish that were true, |
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but my experience is that coming out is something you have to do over and over again.
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:29 PM
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31. I see your point but I'm referring to the press specifically. |
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I hate seeing those adjectives in the press because of what they imply.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:39 PM
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14. Oh good grief. I've had to "admit" in DU that I'm STRAIGHT!!!! |
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But only cause somebody keeps asking these questions. Somebody out there is curious about everybody else's sex habits.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:42 PM
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16. It's not the fact that one's stating their sexuality that I wonder about. |
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It's the choice of words. Why "admit?" It sounds negative
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:47 PM
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18. Is it the reporter/article's wording or the actual gay person's words? |
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By definition 'admit' is not a negative, but is: to concede as true; acknowledge.
All the talk just reminds my of my ex (pthuey!) who thought out loud that everyone was gay. Who cares?
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:10 PM
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29. Did he go "gay-spotting?" |
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My friends and I used to do that at the mall.
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Wed Jul-26-06 11:16 PM
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33. No, more like his gaydar was stuck on but seriously out of whack... |
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and he blurted stuff out loud all the time about people we knew, people passed on the street, during otherwise intelligent conversations...
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:34 AM
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35. Yeah, we were more like just sitting on a mall bench and... |
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quietly debating people's sexual orientation. Not random, loud outbursts at all.
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:40 AM
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36. That's different. He was just creepy. He got upset once because |
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he seriously thought my daughter was dating/kissing a black guy (another issue), and wouldn't listen to anyone tell him it was all in his head, they were just friends. The boy was a great h.s. football player, and gay. I was sworn to secrecy by the kids. What a joke on my ex!
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:49 AM
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39. My grandmother (mom's side) once told one of my cousin's... |
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on my dad's side (liberal side), that he shouldn't go out in the sun, because he was a good-looking guy, but when he got tan, he looked black. Yeah, Sean is half Irish, but his mom is half Native American and half black. Of course, since he works as a stand-up comic, he does a whole routine that since he's 1/2 Irish, 1/4 black, and 1/4 Native American, essentially everyone hates him for one reason or another.
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:58 AM
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42. Yep, my grandma was like that. Grandpa was 1/4 Cherokee, but |
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we didn't talk about it around her. I'm 1/16th Cherokee. She didn't like for me to spend all summer at the pool because "you look like a little Mexican!" She was a great lady, but a racist. Takes too much time and energy to hate like that.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:42 PM
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15. Because that's how straight people often think of it. |
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Personally, at this point, I just act as if everyone knows and live my life accordingly. I don't necessarily inform people I meet, but rather they'll either piece it together themselves or when it gets mentioned in regular conversation.
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:45 PM
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17. Because otherwise, No Admittance. |
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Wed Jul-26-06 04:49 PM
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20. Because it's the first step on the road to this... |
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Well, it's the least I can do under the circumstances.
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:06 PM
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22. because one is gay, most like |
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Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 06:17 PM by Dear Bastards
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Wed Jul-26-06 06:16 PM
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23. It's pretty sad that society defines one by their sexual preference |
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Just as they do their race. How often do you see in a newspaper that a person is described as a "young Black male" or a "Hispanic female". Do you ever see anyone described as a "white male?" Not very often. And most of the time, that qualifier has nothing to do with the story - it would be one thing if they were describing a missing person or someone who was wanted, but often it's just there. As if it matters.
Same with people's sexual orientation. No one is ever described as "the openly straight comedian" or hits the headlines by "proclaiming they are straight."
I always have to scratch my head when I hear people talk about how being gay is a choice - yeah, sure, people always choose to be something that will potentially get them ridiculed, discriminated against and possibly injured or killed. :eyes:
Unless human beings can get it through their narrow little minds that we're all the same under the surface, and all in the same boat, we'll never survive as a species. Sometimes, I have so little hope for us. ~sigh~
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:13 PM
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30. In almost all articles about a female politician |
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or head of state there is always a reference to what she is wearing. I don't recall the same being done to men.
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Wed Jul-26-06 07:29 PM
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You can admit to being happy or sad or anything, really.
Admit isn't a negative word.
Maybe he should have acknowledged that he was gay?
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:08 PM
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28. to gain publicity for one's dead end career EOM |
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Wed Jul-26-06 08:31 PM
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32. It seems I didn't make the OP clear enough |
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I was wondering about the choice of language used.
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Wed Jul-26-06 11:19 PM
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:46 AM
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hateful people make some hide the fact that they're gay, and when pressed they then "admit" it like it's a crime or something.
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:47 AM
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38. While a good question, your getting GD in my Lounge |
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Thu Jul-27-06 12:57 AM
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41. When you are "accused" of being gay, then stating that you ARE comes |
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across to THEM as an admission.
They're the ones who think they're making an accusation. All I ever want to say is, "Duh."
Admission is in the eye of the beholder, IMO.
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Thu Jul-27-06 01:02 AM
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43. I dunno, I don't walk around telling people I'm hetero. |
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Way too much information in my most humble opinion.
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