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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:51 PM
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Why does one "admit" to being gay?
"Admit" just always seems like a negative word. :shrug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:54 PM
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1. It really is. Like one has been deliberately lying all the time
about not being gay - which, in a lot of instances is true, but in most of the instances I know the lies were deliberate so that the person wouldn't get killed and/or beat severely or otherwise treated inhumanely.

We need a better word that denotes the person is doing something courageous and honorable. Perhaps "Proclaims" or "announces" (though that one is kind of funny, too) or some such.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:58 PM
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6. Declare, or assert perhaps...
"Come out" works in a less formal setting.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:55 PM
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2. I think if you hid and denied something for years, then "admit" makes
sense...but in general, I think a better word is "acknowledge."
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everythingsxen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:56 PM
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3. Because....
Gay people are expected to walk around wearing rainbow coats with pink triangles sewn on the arms. :sarcasm:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:56 PM
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4. That's a very good question.
It's always framed in terms of hiding this evil secret. Even "being open about it" somehow conjures images of sinister happenings.

God, it's not being gay should be equated with being an axe murderer or something.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:57 PM
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5. Because if they admit to being gay....
They ge all the wonderful prizes behind door number 1....
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:19 PM
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7. After I convert 50, I get this...
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:24 PM
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10. geez you're behind...after I get one more I get to upgrade to
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 04:24 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:29 PM
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11. Well, we already have one in the basement.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:37 PM
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13. You just want the footballer don't you?
He looks very good at playing with balls too. :evilgrin:
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:48 PM
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19. I'd take one of each...
and are you talking from expereince? :evilgrin:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:00 PM
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24. I've driven a few women to the other side....
I should get an appliance store...
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:51 AM
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40. It doesn't count.
Only gay people can earn appliances. We get the toasters for winning the people you push over.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:22 PM
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8. Because "STRAIGHT" people define linguistic definitions and framing.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:23 PM
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9. I just wish people would only do it once.
But Lance Bass will be 'admittedly gay' from here on out. I personally would rather people stay in the closet, if it is someone I really like, than have to hear them referred to as 'admittely gay' for the rest of my and their lives.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:33 PM
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12. It's "openly gay"
and I don't see why it's a problem. Straight people don't have to "admit" anything, because people just assume you're straight unless you say otherwise.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:14 PM
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25. I've heard both, and actually, it's just 'gay'.
Both adjectives are unnecessary because both imply that it is something that should be concealed.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:59 PM
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27. I wish that were true,
but my experience is that coming out is something you have to do over and over again.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:29 PM
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31. I see your point but I'm referring to the press specifically.
I hate seeing those adjectives in the press because of what they imply.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:39 PM
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14. Oh good grief. I've had to "admit" in DU that I'm STRAIGHT!!!!
But only cause somebody keeps asking these questions.
Somebody out there is curious about everybody else's sex habits.

:spray:
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:42 PM
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16. It's not the fact that one's stating their sexuality that I wonder about.
It's the choice of words. Why "admit?" It sounds negative
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:47 PM
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18. Is it the reporter/article's wording or the actual gay person's words?
By definition 'admit' is not a negative, but is:
to concede as true; acknowledge.

All the talk just reminds my of my ex (pthuey!) who
thought out loud that everyone was gay. Who cares?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:10 PM
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29. Did he go "gay-spotting?"
My friends and I used to do that at the mall.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:16 PM
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33. No, more like his gaydar was stuck on but seriously out of whack...
and he blurted stuff out loud all the time about people we knew,
people passed on the street, during otherwise intelligent conversations...

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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:34 AM
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35. Yeah, we were more like just sitting on a mall bench and...
quietly debating people's sexual orientation. Not random, loud outbursts at all.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:40 AM
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36. That's different. He was just creepy. He got upset once because
he seriously thought my daughter was dating/kissing a black guy (another issue),
and wouldn't listen to anyone tell him it was all in his head, they were just friends.
The boy was a great h.s. football player, and gay. I was sworn to secrecy by the kids.
What a joke on my ex!
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:49 AM
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39. My grandmother (mom's side) once told one of my cousin's...
on my dad's side (liberal side), that he shouldn't go out in the sun, because he was a good-looking guy, but when he got tan, he looked black. Yeah, Sean is half Irish, but his mom is half Native American and half black. Of course, since he works as a stand-up comic, he does a whole routine that since he's 1/2 Irish, 1/4 black, and 1/4 Native American, essentially everyone hates him for one reason or another.
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txwhitedove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:58 AM
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42. Yep, my grandma was like that. Grandpa was 1/4 Cherokee, but
we didn't talk about it around her. I'm 1/16th Cherokee. She didn't like for me
to spend all summer at the pool because "you look like a little Mexican!"
She was a great lady, but a racist. Takes too much time and energy to hate like that.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:42 PM
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15. Because that's how straight people often think of it.
Personally, at this point, I just act as if everyone knows and live my life accordingly. I don't necessarily inform people I meet, but rather they'll either piece it together themselves or when it gets mentioned in regular conversation.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:45 PM
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17. Because otherwise, No Admittance.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:49 PM
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20. Because it's the first step on the road to this...
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:49 PM
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21. I admit I like girls


Well, it's the least I can do under the circumstances.


:shrug:


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Dear Bastards Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:06 PM
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22. because one is gay, most like
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 06:17 PM by Dear Bastards
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 06:16 PM
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23. It's pretty sad that society defines one by their sexual preference
Just as they do their race. How often do you see in a newspaper that a person is described as a "young Black male" or a "Hispanic female". Do you ever see anyone described as a "white male?" Not very often. And most of the time, that qualifier has nothing to do with the story - it would be one thing if they were describing a missing person or someone who was wanted, but often it's just there. As if it matters.

Same with people's sexual orientation. No one is ever described as "the openly straight comedian" or hits the headlines by "proclaiming they are straight."

I always have to scratch my head when I hear people talk about how being gay is a choice - yeah, sure, people always choose to be something that will potentially get them ridiculed, discriminated against and possibly injured or killed. :eyes:

Unless human beings can get it through their narrow little minds that we're all the same under the surface, and all in the same boat, we'll never survive as a species. Sometimes, I have so little hope for us. ~sigh~
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:13 PM
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30. In almost all articles about a female politician
or head of state there is always a reference to what she is wearing. I don't recall the same being done to men.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 07:29 PM
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26. Oh come on.
You can admit to being happy or sad or anything, really.

Admit isn't a negative word.

Maybe he should have acknowledged that he was gay?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:08 PM
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28. to gain publicity for one's dead end career EOM
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:31 PM
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32. It seems I didn't make the OP clear enough
I was wondering about the choice of language used.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:19 PM
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34. I admit NOTHING!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:46 AM
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37. Because
hateful people make some hide the fact that they're gay, and when pressed they then "admit" it like it's a crime or something.
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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:47 AM
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38. While a good question, your getting GD in my Lounge
:)
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 12:57 AM
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41. When you are "accused" of being gay, then stating that you ARE comes
across to THEM as an admission.

They're the ones who think they're making an accusation. All I ever want to say is, "Duh."

Admission is in the eye of the beholder, IMO.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 01:02 AM
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43. I dunno, I don't walk around telling people I'm hetero.
Way too much information in my most humble opinion.
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