What if they stopped making cheese?

[Courtesy Flush]

Discuss quietly among yourselves.

[MrScorpio]

1. I'll go NUTZ!!

I needs my cheese

[Critters2]

2. Then I could finally be vegan!!

Cheese is my nemesis!

[LeftyMom]

3. I'd be cool with that.

:shrug:

[Guava Jelly]

4. WHAT!!!!!!!!

I would go ballistic..break into a freepers home grab thier arsenal and find a tower!!
blam blam this is for velveta blam blam take that goat cheese blam ba blam blam blam I need cheddar stat!!!!

[auntAgonist]

5. people in Wisconsin might have

to move..

:shrug:

aA

[malta blue]

6. I could stop taking Vytorin...

fucking cholesterol...fucking willpower....mmmm CHEESE:9

[flvegan]

7. A huge blow to the veal industry.

Probably good for all considered...even if it is tasty.

[outofbounds]

8. They would be

drawn and quartered burned at the stake and die a miserable death. The stench would be great.
Dont mess with the cheese.

[ashling]

9. Who is "they' ?

:shrug:

[Critters2]

11. Freepers and neocons

"They" is always freepers and neocons.

[ashling]

28. Lock up the usual suspects

Its always the same ones, isnt it?

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[Critters2]

38. Wow! Why did these messages get deleted?

What offensive thing could have been said in a thread about cheese?!

Think I'll go over to a nice, quiet Middle East war thread :)

[ashling]

47. Heck if I know

I thought they were fine ... in fact I am offended that these responses to my thread were deleted! I feel so used!

[ashling]

30. It's always the same ones!

Lock up the usuual supects.

actually, I was going to answer that if "they" is the french, its ok. Not that I have anything against the french, but Bleu Cheese is just, well: Bleu, and Brie is just not done yet. I do sometimes like freedomfort cheese - just kidding!, that's disgusting too.

Now, the English can continue making cheese. Cheddar and Edam: good stuff!

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[ashling]

32. HA

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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[Critters2]

37. Bleu cheese...blecch

I don't eat moldly food. Even if it's supposed to be that way...kimchee, bleu cheese, whatever. If it's moldly, it's time to throw it out!

[outofbounds]

35. "They" in this case

is anyone that stopped the making of the succulent, melt in your mouth, divine opposite of chocolate, cheese.

[skygazer]

10. Blessed are the cheesemakers

What's so special about the cheesemakers?

Well, obviously it's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

12. Less animal cruelty. Healthier humans.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

14. Milking cows and goats is cruel?

When did that happen?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

22. It happened a long time ago.

http://www.chooseveg.com/dairy.asp?bandwidth=high&rate=Infinity

Cows produce milk for the same reason that humans do—to nourish their young—but calves born on dairy farms are taken from their mothers when they are just one day old and fed milk replacers so that humans can have the milk instead.<1,2> In order to keep a steady supply of milk, the cows are repeatedly impregnated. Several times a day, dairy cows are hooked by their udders to electronic milking machines, which can cause the cows to suffer electrical shocks, painful lesions, and mastitis. Some spend their entire lives standing on concrete floors; others are crammed into massive mud lots.

Although cows would naturally make only enough milk to meet the needs of their calves (around 16 pounds a day), genetic manipulation, antibiotics, and hormones are used to force each cow to produce more than 18,000 pounds of milk a year (an average of 50 pounds a day).<3,4,5>

Cows on factory farms suffer from a variety of health problems including mastitis, a painful inflammation of the mammary glands. In order to further increase profits, Bovine Growth Hormone (BGH), a synthetic hormone, is now being injected into cows to get them to produce even more milk. The hormones adversely affect the cows’ health and increase the rate of birth defects in their calves.<6> BGH may also cause breast and prostate cancer in humans.<7>

Cows have a natural lifespan of about 25 years and can produce milk for eight or nine years, but the stress caused by factory farm conditions leads to disease, lameness, and reproductive problems that render cows worthless to the dairy industry by the time they are four or five years old, at which time they are sent to the slaughterhouse.<8,9>

1 Goldstein, D. (2002, May 30). Up close: a beef with dairy. KCAL.
2 Mad Cow Casts Light on Beef Uses. (2004, Jan. 4). L.A. Times.
3 National Agriculture Statistics Service. (2004, Feb. 17). Milk production. United States Department of Agriculture.
4 Blaney, D.P. (2002, June). The changing landscape of U.S. milk production. Statistical Bulletin Number 978, United States Department of Agriculture.
5 Pace, D. Feeding a bucket calf. Oklahoma Cooperative Extension Service, Oklahoma State University.
6 Christiansen, A. (1995, July). Recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone: alarming Tests, unfounded approval. Rural Vermont.
7 McKenzie, J. (1998, Dec. 15). Is cow’s milk additive safe? ABC News.
8 Karpf, A. (2003, Dec. 13). Dairy monsters. The Guardian.
9 Wallace, R.L. (2004). Market cows: a potential profit center. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

[txwhitedove]

25. That description makes my grandfather’s independent dairy farm sound like

Cow Heaven because they got to roam over beautiful acres. He didn’t take the calf away the first day,
and when they were penned up they learned to eat from a bucket by 1st drinking real milk from the bucket.
You can’t milk cows ‘several’ times a day. They get milked twice – early morning and in the evening.
The equipment is cleaned, checked and maintained to ensure no harm to the cows. Please note that I am sure
it is different in some big dairy lots, but milking has been done for centuries to supplement food for humans.
(NO, he didn't raise 'veal'.)

:-)

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

26. Well factory farms are run much worse than small independent farms.

[Critters2]

40. Wars have been done for centuries, too

But I don't endorse them.

[txwhitedove]

44. ? Note again, difference between a corporate milk industry

and an independent dairy where the farmer NAMES and loves his cows.
Cows hurt and can get sick if they are not milked. The simple
age-old milking of a cow or goat is weightless flotsam when
attemping a comparison to bombs and murder. Or do you need to
see grannylib's pictures again?

If you are happy with your tofu, that's great. If I had to go
back to living on a farm, there would definitely be at least one milk cow
or goats.

[Critters2]

46. The "cows get sick if they're not milked" stuff is a myth

If they are gradually allowed to produce less milk, they'll dry up like any mammal. They produce mlk for their young, not for you. Their calves drink less milk gradually over time, like the young of any mammal, and the mother produces milk to meet the need.

Cows are mammals, not milk machines. I never get why this is so ahrd for people to comprehend. If we milked you, or your mother, or your wife, you or they would produce milk forever, too. You'd also be exhausted by the process. As happens with cows.

[outofbounds]

36. You are right.

My job requires me to go to a dairy. 4 barns 5000 cows stretched out over a couple thousand acres. These people are as good to the cows as they can be. They have adequate pasture and there are two streams that run through the land. That is where the pretty part ends though.

Calves are separated in under a week. The milking barns have concrete floors with water spraying down from the ceiling to rinse the cows off. This creates a mud bog between the pasture and the milking barn. The udders are always covered in what looks like beta-dine/ povidone iodine. The cows stand on the concrete in rows until they are milked then the out bound lane they are inspected and treated for any illness. Then they are let loose in the pasture.

If you never drank milk and seen the workings of a dairy, you would never try it. This again is a large milk farm, and like I said they treat the animals as good as they can, I really believe that about these people. This farm sells about 38-40k a day in milk.

Edit = last paragraph

[Critters2]

39. Exactly

Cows produce milk for their own young. Continuing to milk them, causing them to lactate beyond what nature intended is cruel.

[nuxvomica]

13. As long as there are cows, goats and dogs, there will be cheese

It doesn't matter that someone has stopped manufacturing it cuz folks would always make their own, sometimes unintentionally. My vision of the future is an America bursting with ever more cheese, as well as soy-based cheese substitutes.

[ZombieNixon]

15. I would cry.

:cry:

I love you, cheese.

[RevCheesehead]

24. And I love you too, ZN

Oh, wait - you weren't really talking about ME, were you? :)

[ZombieNixon]

27. Depends. Do you have cheese?

:D

[GOPisEvil]

16. Life would be less happy.

At least in my house.

[Katina]

17. NO PIZZA!!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

[Swede]

19. That was my exact thought.

No pizza,then the terrorists have won.

[Critters2]

41. Vegan pizza isn't bad, really

[txwhitedove]

18. Huh? No queso? No nachos? No grilled cheese? ......

My grandfather ran a dairy farm and I helped milk cows. It doesn't hurt cows to be milked, in fact they got medical care and TLC to keep them in top shape. Good grief.

[qwertyMike]

20. i'd die n/t

[auntAgonist]

21. Her Royal Cheesiness, aka RevCheesehead would NEVER

permit that to happen.

aA
:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

23. I dunna, aA -

wouldn't I become even more valuable? :rofl:

[ghostsofgiants]

33. There'd be a really big flamewar between vegans and non-vegans...

And I'd be moping about no longer being able to make nachos or quesadillas.

[Critters2]

48. Nah, the non-vegans would finally have to shut-up and eat soy cheese nt

[Critters2]

42. They'd finally develop a soy cheese that tastes like cheese!! nt

[Fleshdancer]

43. we would just make our own

homemade mozzarella is incredible. My husband just received his cheesy press so we'll be making cheddar cheese for the first time very soon. :)

http://schmidling.netfirms.com/press.htm

[sarge43]

45. I'd miss feta, but could manage.

Now if they stopped making Stoney Farm yogurt, especially Key Lime and Black Cherry .... omg.