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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 08:58 PM
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Lounge men: Are you a manly man?
I can be. But I'm not self-conscious about it...I'm who I am, and I'm more sensitive, thoughtful, and self-aware than might be the typical manly hallmark. But most of the activities I enjoy and my career (my primary one, that I'm on hiatus from, and to a great extent what I do now) are decidedly macho, at least outwardly.

But I sure smell a tad manly now...riding around in black leather in the desert will do that to you. :D
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:02 PM
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1. I'm actually struggling to answer this question.
I suppose it all goes back to your definition of 'manly', doesn't it? That's actually harder to define than you might think, if you take it seriously.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:16 PM
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3. Exactly
I chose to see it as your typical Macho Macho Man kind of thing, the ideal promulgated in so many movies and TV shows of yore...like a John Wayne character, but maybe less introspective.

In my case, I found that my activities (career and recreational) placed me squarely in the macho camp but my character in many ways has a lot more in common with (simarly broadly-painted) traditional notions of femininity. Some people looking at the facts of my life and at what I do have before seen me as a prototypical macho-man (I've been told as much) but people who know me wouldn't characterize me that way. To me, the real definition of a person isn't often found in what they do...not entirely, anyway.

I'm a rugged girlyman. :D
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:19 PM
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5. You mean image isn't reality?
Tell that to the folks at HUMMER. :D

Rugged girlyman! :rofl:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:51 PM
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11. I hope not. Otherwise I'm a studly sex god
On second thought...
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:06 PM
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2. No. I am a girlie man
Which doesn't mean I fancy men. I'm just a fairly unmasculine guy who is attracted to girls.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:18 PM
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4. A lot of women seem to like that
I'm kinda like you in some ways, but at initial face value I can apparently be intimidating (or seem arrogant) to someone who judges only by appearance. Worst of both worlds.. :D
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:52 PM
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12. I find nothing wrong with that.
:* In fact, I don't particulary like macho guys. :hug:
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:10 PM
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21. *hug*
:*
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:34 PM
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6. Shit i dont know
I like ladies yet hate football
I love to cook and dont give A shit about cars
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:40 PM
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7. Welcome to the fold, Brother sUx.
Cars, no...motorcycles are a different story. :D
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:41 PM
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8. cool
i am a manly man ladies...line up :)
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:54 PM
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13. Cool!
:hi: You think like most of the guys I'd ever considered dating....
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:56 PM
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15. woooooo hooooooooo!
been a manly man for 5 minutes and i all ready got a babe
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:02 PM
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18. Don't forget to send your first installment of $19.99, plus shipping, to
Dr Forrest's Relationship Improvement Center for Manly Men. Help your fellow fellows realize their full potential...help those less fortunate than you learn how to live live other than as slaves to the remote control. Operators are standing by!
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:04 PM
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20. check is in the mail
thank you doc forrest
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:11 PM
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22. We appreciate it
And our love gift of Jergens Natural Glow moisturizer is on its way to you now.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:45 PM
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9. Uhh...maybe?
:shrug:

I don't know. What does "manly" mean anyway?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:50 PM
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10. a) a suburb and beach in Sydney, Australia
b) a knuckleheaded macho sh**head with misogynistic tendencies and likely genital hypotrophy

c) ForrestGump's version of manly, which isn't necessarily very manly at all

:D
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:18 PM
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23. I'll take a mixture of A and C for $500, Forrest.
Seriously, I do "manly" things like work on cars (I love motorcycles :D) and outdoorsy-type things/working out, and more intellectual, typically male-dominated pursuits like computer science (game developer by profession...hopefully).

I love music, yet some of the stuff I listen to will dissolve your soul after prolonged exposure, love to write, etc...

Who knows? :shrug:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:23 PM
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26. Japanese motorcycles, at least, in the yin-yang world of feminine versus
masculine, would have to be feminine...they're sleek, smooth (feline-like) and worlds away from the bumbling flatulence of macho Harleys. :D

Sounds like you've chosen well with categorizing yourself (in a noncategorical way, the only real way to do it), so enjoy your week on sunny Manly Beach with the topless Australian babes! (send pictures...please)
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:29 PM
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30. So can I have the $500?
:shrug: :D
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:33 PM
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32. No, you pay US the $500
Or you can forget about your sojourn Down Under. :P

Brotherly feelings only go so far, you know. This is 'mer'ca.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:44 PM
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35. Bastard Murkans.
x(
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:45 PM
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36. I know: yanqui imperialists
Come on...pay up, Che... :P
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:55 PM
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14. Just as long as you're not a macho asshole idiot jock...
:hi: :*
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 09:59 PM
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16. Let's see: hmmm...not all four at once, anyway
:* <--- see? I even put on lipstick for you. And I'm not a member of Mötlëÿ Crüë.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:00 PM
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17. Thank you for showing me your sensitive side...
:* :loveya: OK, you pass....
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:04 PM
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19. Sorry...I didn't realize I was wearing a hospital gown
And standing over a metal subway ventilation grate. :blush:

I'm not all Mr Sensitive, though. You should've see me whoop and holler when the 49ers won the basketball finals against the Chicago Bears!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:19 PM
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24. Oh, fuck no.
Good question.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:24 PM
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27. Good answer
:D
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:23 PM
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25. Sure. Nothing effeminate about me.
But that doesn't mean I have to go out and kill animals and shit or act like a boorish cad.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:25 PM
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28. I'd give you a high five
But my nail polish is still drying....
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:28 PM
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29. Probably not.
Manly, to too many doesn't work itself out.

I do think I'm manly, but...oh, well.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:36 PM
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33. It's okay
I've redefined 'manly' so we all fit in it...all except what we now call the 'proto-manly' or even 'paleo-manly' types.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:31 PM
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31. Absolutely.
By my definition is different from yours in that it essentially includes kindness, intelligence, and sensitivity.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-29-06 10:37 PM
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34. Then your definition of 'manly' is the same as my redefinition of it
which basically just leaves me confused. :-)
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:10 AM
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37. a manly man kick
testosterone power!!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:32 AM
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41. Aaaarrrrhhhh...oh...oh... jeez...oh...holy...um...oh, holy heck
Should have...worn...my cup.

That smarts, dude. The burden of having such gonadal hypertrophy, I guess. :P
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:24 AM
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38. Hmm....I'll say yes
but probably only because I'll make my own definition. :)

I take my responsibilities seriously, independent minded, like to be active and try and keep in shape.

But I also consider it manly to be aware of the needs of others, be supportive and compassionate and know when a child or a woman needs me to just shut up and listen and not ridicule other men that might not be as "manly" as me and maybe listen to them for tips on somethings I may not be good at. :)

I do recognize that I may not be fully "manly" because I'm also not very competitive - I can be at times but usually I compete against my own goals not others. I'm not much for team sports my 'manly' actives are thinks like hiking, climbing, skiing, individual challenges like that.

And I'm not very good with cars - that's probably my biggest "manly" failing. :)

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:30 AM
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40. A manly man after my own heart!
:headbang:

I just nod gravely when mechanics explain to me how my dual underhand cam poppets threw out of alignment with my carb loaders and messed up the whole torsion sprocket dynamic. It seems to fool them.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:42 AM
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44. My Dad was a huge
car fan...loved working on them and had a deep appreciation for old cars, all that stuff...I know he loved me and respected me for my other qualities but I know too that my total lack of automobile-appreciation or aptitude was one point of disappointment for him. ;)

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:30 AM
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45. My father's really mechanically-inclined, too
Though, oddly, he has at least mild trouble with electronic devices like VCRs and is terrified of computers. He's a brilliant handyman, too, in general, and has done everything from rebuilding boats to singlehandedly renovating and reconfiguring our homes. Messed his back up when he was younger, when he and his cousin would pull out engines from '40s-era Chevys and the like by wrapping a chain around their shoulders and just lifting...

I didn't get much of that mechanical/handyman ability. :D

On the other hand, with all the black boxes and sealed modular (expensive!) components in today's cars, he's not quite as far ahead of me in this respect as once was the case.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:24 AM
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39. Women think I am, men do not.
To women, I'm a gentle, kind, sensitive, caring, evolved man full of compassion and good humor. From what I hear from them, that's how a man should be. I can also move really heavy shit all by myself. An added bonus.

To men, I'm a tofu munching sprout hound who detests watching sports and spends his time caring for formerly abused pets, and working towards the rights of women, children, gays, the elderly and animals. Not too manly.

I guess to some, I am. To some, I'm not. I'm definitely not macho.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:34 AM
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42. Your arms are macho, though
So, on balance, you seem pretty balanced. :hi:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 09:35 AM
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43. Hell, no
I have more feminine traits in me that would instantly disqualify me from being a stereotypical "manly man"
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 10:36 AM
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46. Nah, I go in more for the slim-hipped willowy look
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:03 PM
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47. my body is very masculine, guy looking.
but my personality not so much.

but i'm not a big girl either -- but sometimes i can be.

unless i'm kickin your ass -- then no -- well i can kick your ass wearing a ball gown and gym pumped muscles and a pair of kickass manolo blahnik come fuck me pumps on.

boys will be girls and girls will be boys.

i'm sooo confused.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:09 PM
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48. grunt
*belch*

Huh?

Keep it down wouldja, I'm trying to watch the game.
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IndyBob Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:22 PM
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49. Tough to Say
On the yes side:

Into cars, especially if they're fast. Combined top speed of the two I own is over 300 mph.

Enjoy working on the cars, when I can make the time. Put headers on the '96 Camaro Z28. Step 1, remove alternator. Step 2, ......., Step 300, re-install alternator. A bitch of a project.

I take my career and responsibilities seriously.

Don't mind watching a football game on occasion. Can burp and fart with the best of them.

My yearly vacation is a one week fishing trip to Canada with my dad. Coming up in 5 weeks!

On the no side:

I live with my boyfriend of ten years.

I like to cook.

I've seen every episode of Sponge Bob, most several times.

You decide.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 12:23 PM
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50. What?! - You told us you were a lesbian.
Dammit, now I'm all confused and disappointed.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 02:18 PM
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51. No.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:09 PM
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52. I'm manly enough to invite you for an hour long stroll.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-30-06 06:53 PM
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53. Yes
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