Worst. War. Movie. Ever. "The Green Berets" starting now on History.

[GOPisEvil]

When a war movie makes me laugh, I'd say that's not a good thing.

Why can't we have "The Longest Day"?

[cmkramer]

1. If you think that's bad

you should see "Big Jim McLain" which is high up on my list of "guilty pleasure" movies. It's John Wayne and James Arness fighting the commies in Hawaii.

[Zomby Woof]

2. I hate John Wayne anyway

He was a fascist and a closet case as it was. A draft dodger during WW2 too. The way he is worshipped by middle America and the wingnuts is also repulsive. A terrible actor, from a technical standpoint - the triumph of marketing over substance - which is what really makes him "all-American". It is that very crowd who thinks that movie is the be all and end all of his movies. They also loved that stupid song also named for the Green Berets. Fuck John Wayne and his fans.

Watch for that eastern sunset!

[GOPisEvil]

5. I cannot add a thing to this mini-rant.

:thumbsup:

[zonkers]

7. Fuck Elvis too.

[Zomby Woof]

11. Unlike Marion Morrison, Elvis actually served in the Army

And while most of Elvis's movies were dreck, none of them were fascist propaganda either.

For his Sun Records output alone, he IS a valid American icon.

[zonkers]

13. self del.

[zonkers]

14. I was just kidding. I love Elvis. I was just echoing the Public Enemy

song lyric. (Fight the Power)

"Elvis was a hero to most/ But he never meant shit to me you see/ Straight up racist that sucker was simple and plain/ Motherfuck him and John Wayne."

[jmm]

3. There is such a thing as due process. Out here,

due process is a bullet.



How could you not love a film with such moving quotes as that :eyes:.

[Blue_Tires]

4. yeah, i'd take the dirty dozen or patton

every day of the week and twice on sunday

[zonkers]

6. Saw it as a kid and I loved the crude bamboo and vine boobie traps the VC

made in the jungle.

[xmas74]

8. Ugh!

Now I have the stupid song in my head.

Why couldn't they show something like Sgt York instead? I've always liked that movie.

[Radical Activist]

9. John Wayne films are propaganda.

Some of the most effective American propaganda films ever made. They present a dishonest, glorified view of war and American history. They should be thrown in the same dustbin as Triumph of the Will.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

10. You have to love the whole thing with the David Jansen reporter character.

Damn commie-sympathizing liberal media. Get their pinko butts near the real action and they'll change their tunes, boy.

[pink-o]

12. Ugh! John Wayne was such an asshole during Vietnam...

...my whole generation loathed him. To this day, I've never seen John Ford's "The Quiet Man" which is supposed to be an amazing film. But I know I'd never get past his ugly, reactionary mug and be able to enjoy it.

In the mid-70s, Babaah Waawaah once interviewed John Wayne and Jane Fonda as different segments of one of her celebrity specials. (Remember, this was before Entertainment Tonight or E television). Anyway, she asked each of them what they thought of the other. Fonda said Wayne had guts, even though she didn't agree with him. He said she was mixed-up. At the time, I thought he was a smug, condescending bastard, pronoucing a big-man diagnosis on the psyche of a poor little girl. But y'know, after watching Fonda re-invent herself over the last 2 decades--the latest being her new born-again Xian bullshit--I've lost all respect for her, and I reluctantly concede that Wayne nailed it.

Just a point of interest. Doesn't make me hate him less, and even a stopped clock is right twice a day!

[Hand]

15. Michael Herr's comment:

Re The Green Berets: "It wasn't really about Vietnam, it was about Santa Monica." :rofl: :toast:

P.S. Herr was VN correspondent for Esquire and author of "Dispatches", the best book written about that filthy damn war.

[Guy Fawkes]

16. I'd say "Mata Hari" is the worst war movie ever...

An exotic dancer/spy playing both sides during WWI. Awful movie.

[Bucky]

17. There are rungs of the ladder below John Wayne

John Wayne always fought on a team--none of this passive super-ChuckNorris or super-Rambo crap that tells the public, "yall just sit back in your sofas and let the government superheroes do the work." In Wayne movies it was always about a team of ordinary Americans joining in on a fight. He respected ladies, unlike James Bond who kills half the women he sleeps with, and he protrayed working class men, not glammy super-rich spies and not rejects and misfits. I may not agree with most of his politics after 1960, but you got to look a little deeper than that to understand his appeal.

That said, Jane Fonda handled the question from Barbra Walters much better. You always, always, say you respect your opponents. Anything less is just bad form.

[havocmom]

18. Scene at the end, on the beach... Port Hueneme, Calif

Many picnics there. Anacapa Island has a very distinct profile from Silver Strand Beach.

I laugh at that movie too.