If there were a Rock n Roll Hall of Shame, who would you induct?

[Philosoraptor]

Me? Zager and Evans, all boy bands, Madonna, Cher, Duran Duran and Duran, the Archies, gary puckett and the union gap, Kiss, Abba, Weezer, black oak arkansas, guess who, dianah ross, grand funk railroad, air supply, to name but a few.

"Criteria include the lack or absence of influence or significance of the artist's contributions to the development and perpetuation of rock and roll,"

[Crankie Avalon]

1. Styx...

...check this out if you need to be reminded why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq3VSgfoCYQ

[taterguy]

2. U2

[Fenris]

3. April Wine, REO Speedwagon, Rockestra, Rod Stewart,

Alice Cooper (the shitty solo artist, not the kick-ass band), KISS, okay this is too easy...

[jpgray]

4. Pat Boone.

[musiclawyer]

5. Difficult Task

too many too list

My choice to go in first: Hootie Blowsfish

[RedStateShame]

6. Mike Love....possibly all the non-Wilson Beach Boys.

[regularguy]

7. BTO: The poor man's "guess who".

[Philosoraptor]

8. Def Leppard

[swag]

76. Unbearable. Not a single good song.

[swag]

77. Unbearable. Not a single good song.

[hfojvt]

85. what would you consider a good song?

arma not geddon it.

[swag]

93. Oh, I always thought "Jimmy Crack Corn" was pretty catchy.

[southpaw]

9. Most 80's Hair Metal bands...

but especially the B and C list ones who were blatantly derivative or obvious gimmic bands:

Pretty Boy Floyd, Warrant, Trickster, Jackal, Stryper, Black n Blue, Kix etc.

Of course, KISS should be the first band inducted.

[Philosoraptor]

11. Kiss could also be the hall of shame's LOGO

Just gene simmons face.

[momophile]

10. Jefferson Starship

but not Jefferson Airplane.

[Philosoraptor]

12. that airplane sure crashed

must have been the coke

[southpaw]

13. Awwwww...

I'd just about agree if you cut it down to just 'Starship'

'Jefferson Starship' were redeemable for a handful of songs, but 'Starship' was just plain BAD!

[Philosoraptor]

14. ah yes, i'd forgotten that, must've been the coke.

[Bucky]

48. "We built this City (aww-wee-awwah!) We built this City on rock And roll!"

Why did they shoot John Lennon when these guys were still around?

[Cathyclysmic]

15. In the artists and musicians category:

Kiss
Korn
Limp Bizkit
Poison
Motley crue
winger
Whitesnake
Milli Vanilli
Ashlee Simpson
Oasis
Britney Spears
Starship

In the non-performers category:
Col. Tom Parker
Allen Klein
Lou Perlman
Max Martin (Teen-pop producer)
Simon Cowell
Joe Simpson

In the pioneers category:
Pat Boone

[Philosoraptor]

18. hey--lay off milli

vanilli i can see

[jmowreader]

29. Shouldn't Milli Vanilli be in the non-performers category?

[Philosoraptor]

16. Chuck Berry live in concert

He's famous all over the midwest for putting on extremely shitty shows, although he used to put on one of the best.

[begin_within]

17. David Hasselhoff

[Philosoraptor]

19. rick springfield, eddy money, eddy rabbit, journey, supertramp

[RebelOne]

52. No, no, not Eddie Rabbit. I love his music.

And I am sure that most truckers would agree, since one of his hits was "Driving My Life Away." And who could not agree that "I Love A Rainy Night" is one of his greatest hits?

[southpaw]

20. Bryan Adams

Michael Bolton
LaToya Jackson
Rockwell
Chris Gaines

[Fountain79]

26. Oh come on...

you didn't like the Summer of 69?!!

[southpaw]

34. Oh, allright!!!

We'll spare Bryan because of that one! If not for the song, per se, then for the deep philosophical discussions about whether or onot he sang "Me and my baby did it 69" near the end of the song.

I contend that he did!

[kwolf68]

21. Hall of Shame

-Underoath
-Kid Rock
-Starship
-Ted Nugent
-Any Boy Band
-Creed
-David Hasselhoff

[devilgrrl]

22. KISS

:puke:

[mulsh]

23. I';d induct the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame

what a crappy idea. I've never understood why any self respecting Rock n Roller would agree to be in that thing.

[LynneSin]

24. Half your band wouldn't count because they're not really Rock & Roll

Madonna has been one of the biggest innovators in her genre of music with reinventing herself each time to keep her sound & style fresh. She has been a major influence of a generation of singers that followed her.

HOWEVER

She doesn't do Rock & Roll, neither do the boy bands, Diana Ross or Air SUpply.

But based simply on your criteria - Madonna would more than qualify. Just because you do not like her music doesn't mean she isn't an innovator

[martymar64]

25. Gary Glitter

Performer of one crappy hit and a convicted pedophile.

[Kat45]

28. But how would they pump up the crowd at sporting events

if it weren't for that one Gary Glitter hit? :rofl:

[martymar64]

35. We Will Rock You!

Nuff Sed!

[liberalhistorian]

68. And don't forget

Gary U.S. Bonds, also! YUCK!

[martymar64]

89. Resolved: All Garys must be banned from Rock-n-Roll

They can still listen to it, they just aren't allowed to play it.

[billyskank]

27. Coldplay

:puke:

[SKKY]

30. They would be in the "My favorite Chick band section."

[SKKY]

31. Jewel...For that stupid-ass song "Hands", and that book of equally...

...lame, frighteningly mediocre poetry.

[liberalhistorian]

69. Just about ANY Jewel song

is a stupid-ass song! Man, am I getting cynical and hardened to sappy sentimentality in my old age, lol!

[flvegan]

32. Nelson, Nickelback, NKOtB (that's just the "n" groups)

[kwolf68]

33. Love Tim and the boys...

Great new album. Don't want to mention their name here in this thread....but their latest is ruling.

[flvegan]

44. I hear you.

Best thing I've heard in a while, this new one.

[chrisau214]

36. I Like Almost Something From Everybody In Every Post So Far

But as to the OP most of the bands there aren'te even rock.

KISS didn't produce the greatest music ever although it isn't as bad as many of their critics claim. 'Deuce' is a great song. 'Rock and Roll all Nite' is a great song. They have several other anthemic songs as well. But, music aside, they can't be included because they undeniably changed the way concerts are performed. Virtually every musician in every genre from rock to country to rap now puts on a KISS show when they perform live. The fact that Gene Simmons is a self-admitted whore doesn't change any of this.

I guess ABBA is soft rock but I have to grudgingly admit that when an old ABBA song occasionally comes on the radio I listen and happily sing along. Despite having just admitted this I will never admit it.

Madonna is not rock but she is hugely influential. Thus she can't be included.

Solo Diana Ross is not rock but her work with the Supremes is classic and timeless. She can't be included.

The Archies? One hit wonders shouldn't be significant enough to be considered shameful. And that one hit is a fun bouncy song that you can dance to. In all honest it would never have occured to me to even think to consider them.

Grand Funk and The Guess Who are pure garage band rock. I love bands that sound raw with almost zero production values. So I couldn't include them.

Duran Duran sucks. There is no way around this. Their records always sounded like they were either warped or being played at the wrong speed. But then I heard they same sound when they were played on MTV or the radio so I guess it was just their natural sound. But as much as I dislike them they were, unfortunately very influential on the look and sound of the early MTV era.

Cher is...well she's Cher. She has a couple of songs that I like and she tolerated life with Sonny Bono. She pranced around on stage in her fifties with her ass hanging out. I'd feel bad if she were included so I have to pull her off the list.

I'm not really familiar enough with any of your other choices so I'm almost inclined to dismiss them as being too insignificant.

For a word on the insignifigance of boy bands check here:

http://celebrityrumors.tripod.com/vcrarchive.html





Chris

[Philosoraptor]

37. Heart, pat benetar, quarterflash,

george thouroghgood,

[xmas74]

38. Can't do that to George.

He has one of the best drinking songs of all time. Just try to keep up drinking-wise w/ how many times he says "One bourbon, one scotch, one beer."

[liberalhistorian]

72. That song's not even his, though,

he just made a rock version of an old blues song.

[xmas74]

86. But you don't find the blues version on a jukebox

in beer joints all over the US.

[LaCrosseDem]

43. god they were friggin awful weren't they?

[idgiehkt]

60. NOOOOOOOO!!

take that back!

[Shredr]

39. Limp Bizkit

Fred Durst is such a poser.

[tinfoil tiaras]

40. Paris Hilton

Hilary Duff (okay, i admit, i not only like 1 but 2 of her songs...:blush:), Nickelback, Ashlee Simpson (hell, i like Hilary Duff better than her), JAMES BLOUNT

Thats about all I can think of...

[caty]

41. Jerry Lee Lewis

He beat up one of his wives and she died from the injuries. No charges were ever filed against him because he owned the small town where it happened. Every now and then her parents show up on a talk show, still trying to get justice. He is also suspected in the deaths of several other wives.

"Now it is common knowledge that if you have enough money you can get away with "suspicious circumstances" and murdering your wife, i.e., Jerry Lee Lewis, entertainer extraordinary (four or five wives died mysteriously"

http://www.rense.com/general66/terry.htm

[RebelOne]

54. I have always loved Jerry Lee Lewis.

And stories on rense.com I take with a grain of salt. Much of it is heresay.

[LaCrosseDem]

42. REO Speedwagon, Journey, Boston, and ummm REO Speedwagon

Riiiieeeee-dinnnnnn the stooooorm out

Sheesh.

[martymar64]

90. I disagree vis a vis Boston

I saw them in 79 and they were awesome.

Their stuff was fun and it rocked. REO, I have no use for. Same with Journey. I used to like Foghat, but now they bore me, same with Styx.

The ones I still dig are Nazareth and Blue Oyster Cult.

[Strawman]

45. Phil Collins solo, Glen Frey solo

[Bucky]

46. Air Supply, Christopher Cross, & all other "adult contempory" crossovers

Also all rock bands who fail to trash their hotel rooms.

And sorry, folks, but the Rolling Stones for having lived too damn long.

[RebelOne]

88. You had better hope that you live as long as the Rolling Stones. n/t

[martymar64]

91. Resolution:

From here on out, when referring to Keith Richards, he must be addressed as the Indestructible Keith Richards.
I expected him to OD back in 1979, but he's still here!

[peekaloo]

47. Rod Stewart

[jpgray]

50. Camouflage I think may be the worst "major" album ever

[sendero]

49. Stevie "Guitar" Miller

.. who started out ok and then went straight for the 12 year old.

[malta blue]

51. U2 for POP among others.

I can't find my way back to them...

[catbert836]

53. AC/DC

Styx, Asia, Europe, Frankie Goes to Hollywood, the Bee Gees, and the Monkees, although I don't know if any of those except the first one could be considered "rock".

[martymar64]

92. But not AC/DC from the Bon Scott years

They were brilliant back then.
The new guy I have no love for.

[catbert836]

94. I agree...

after Scott died, they got caught in a loop of making the same bad album over and over again. Post-Scott, all their songs sound the same to me.

[RebelOne]

55. Can we all agree that Ted Nugent should be awarded top honors?

[blue neen]

56. Good one.

He would definitely get my vote.

[Richard Steele]

58. First name that popped into my mind! He's gotta be #1!

[momophile]

57. mmmmmbop! Hanson!!

yyyyyyuck!

[Glorfindel]

61. Elvis Presley (the spandex & glitter version)

Mr. Geriatric Rocker - not the youthful Elvis, but I must say his version of "Blue Christmas" is the WORST song ever recorded by anybody, anywhere, ever...

[HughBeaumont]

59. Kid Rock.

Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, Hole, Kid Rock, 3 Doors Down, Creed, Nickelback, Kid Rock, Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, the Kottonmouth Kings, Kid Rock, Crazytown, Autograph, most 80s Sunset Strip hayre rawk bands, Twisted Brown Trucker, Sebastian Bach, Kid Rock, yeah you got it about 5 artists ago . . .

[swag]

75. Such a great list.

[hfojvt]

84. not sure why Autograph is on that list

they do not seem to fit with the others.

[Monk06]

62. Pat Boone. Little Richard should have ever cent that bastard stole from LR

[swag]

63. Journey.

The worst, Jerry. The worst.

[swag]

82. Yes. This ensemble truly sucked and sucks rubber donkey dicks.

[NNadir]

64. Grand Funk Railroad.

AC/DC probably too.

[WeRQ4U]

65. That shitstorm that was Van Halen III

Hell, throw Extreme in there too. All of Gary S.'s garbage.

[Hand]

66. The Monkees. Also Three Dog Night.

Man, they both SU-UCKED! :hide:

[RebelOne]

87. No, no, Three Dog Night is a great group.

[liberalhistorian]

67. Well, let's see, where to begin....

All heavy metal and punk bands, especially the ones prominent in the 80's, Ted Nugent, Michael Bolton, Aerosmith, Madonna, The Sex Pistols, KISS, Devo, Tiffany, Britney Spears, Debbie Gibson, and any other blonde bubblegum tweenie-set singers, The Backstreet Boys, 'N Sync, Brandi, David Cassidy, Sean Cassidy, The Partridge Family, and.........oh, hell, I could go on all night, so I might as well stop now!

[swag]

70. Crosby, Stills, & Nash

[swag]

71. The Byrds

[swag]

73. The Beach Boys.

[StrongBad]

79. Are you high dude??

Their influence in modern pop music is probably only rivaled by The Beatles and Dylan.

[swag]

80. "Influence on modern pop music" is a recommendation?

[swag]

74. REM

[swag]

78. The Grateful Dead

[njdemocrat106]

81. Bjork

Proof that you can still sing like shit and make stuff that barely qualifies as music and have critics infatuated with you.

[Broken_Hero]

83. A few...

Poison, Cinderalla, RATT....a lot of 80's hair bands...sure, there were some good hair bands, but IMO most of them were lame.

[Lareina1970]

95. Vanilla Ice!

He's *gotta* be in a Rock N Roll Hall Of Shame.

[HuskerDU]

96. David Johansen belongs in both.

He belongs in the HOF for his work with the New York Dolls. He belongs in the HOS (and maybe jail)for Buster Poindexter.