Big Brother HoH news....

[LibraLiz1973]

Taken from http://jackiestvblog.blogspot.com/

For the first time I've ever seen on the show, the network recognized that there were technical difficulties affecting the outcome of the HOH Competition. They re-did the comp last night after the live show and Erika is NO longer HOH. From CBS - "Due to technical malfunctions of the buzz-in device" - CBS, a second HOH game was played Thursday night. Janelle won and is HOH.

Here's the rough skinny on the events from the Big Brother House of Malfunctioning Buzzers:

Mike Boogie told Janelle and Howie that Erika and Danielle thought Janelle shouldn't compete in the HOH re-do as she got her question wrong.
Both Erika and Danielle were extremely upset about the comp re-do.
Janelle put on a pair of jeans she hasn't worn yet in the house only to find a fortune cookie which read "You have the attitude of a winner." An omen of things to come?
Janelle and Howie really went at studying hard and heavy for the comp.
Julie Chen hosted the new comp live on the feeds, now she'll be groggy for the Kaysar interview on The Early Show.
The comp got down between Mike Boogie and Janelle and... Janelle is the new HOH! Upon winning, she shouted out "This one's for you, Kaysar!"
Danielle isn't too happy, told Janelle she must have the BB Angel on her shoulder.
Mike told Janelle he threw the comp to her, but other HG are saying it's the best Chill Town has ever done in a comp.
James, Janelle's new best friend in his own mind, went to Janelle and told her he wants Marcellas out. Janelle told him no.
Janelle wants Danielle out.
Danielle and Erika think the re-do was totally unfair. Now, had they won, they'd be singing a different tune. Howie's button DID malfunction on the live show. It needed to be re-done! They want to walk out.
Howie suggested that Janelle make a deal with Danielle and she said "no deals." Good girl.
I think Danielle may be in shock. She's just repeating, "I'm done. I'm completely done."
There will be a food comp today (Friday).
George ate pizza for his last meal as his week's slop pass will expire. Poor guy. He is looking slim and trim (for George, that is).
Mike Boogie told Erika he didn't have the heart to tell Kaysar he was voting to evict him, but he didn't want to be against him at the end. Kaysar was too well-liked to be against anyone at the end.
James told Mike that Janelle will nominate only girls.
Erika fussed.
Danielle fussed.
Marcellas fussed.
Janelle did not fuss.
Janelle told Howie she doesn't think she'll last much longer. Howie told her as long as she's in a comp, she has an advantage. They both think that Danielle has the Coup d'Etat.
Janelle wished she had her Pink Palace back, but no... this one was a bit more impromptu.
Janelle doesn't seem to want to nominated Marcellas, but told Howie that "Marcellas is dead to me."
Unfortunately, Janelle doesn't seem to realize that James turned on her and, on the whole, any S6... but especially her. Janelle thinks if she can get Danielle out, James will be locked into the alliance.
Erika went on a crying jag saying she was going to sue, so we got flame/clouds.
Will pushed for a Marcellas nom, but when Danielle was proposed, he said okay.
James ran to Danielle telling her Janelle wants her gone.

[idgiehkt]

1. I don't freaking believe this shit.

You have got to be kidding me. Janelle must know how to suck it like a goddamn shop vac.

Unfreaking real.

Well, say goodbye Danielle. This sucks.

[IsIt1984Yet]

2. But... there's still the new "coup de tait" option... things could change

hmmm

[underpants]

3. Sheep ewe ...uh wool

Did someone already figure it out. Oh god tell me that they didn't figure it out before I did.

a re-do? that sucks!

[Shell Beau]

7. Please! That is so ugly to say!

So if a guy had been winning, then I guess it makes it different. Bullshit.

[idgiehkt]

10. sorry.

but that's how I feel.

I don't know what you mean about a guy. I want Danielle or Erica to win. I wouldn't mind if Howie had won HOH, though, but then he'd probably put Danielle up. I'd just like to see what Howie would do, how he would have conducted himself. Of course in a perfect world I wouldn't mind Marcellus winning either, but I really think he's just on there for his personality; his game play is no where near on a level with most of them, as evidenced by his decision not to use the veto when his head was on the block in his own season.

But I do believe that these reality show production teams do tweak things for the sake of ratings sometimes. I truly believe they want Janelle on there the whole season and with Erica as HOH she probably would have gone home this week. She's got to be a major draw for the audience for some reason although she does nothing for me. She doesn't make my skin crawl quite as much as Allison did, though.

[Shell Beau]

11. No, I just don't think it is fair to insinuate that Janelle is

giving sexual favors to stay in the game. She is just a good player. Now the BB people may tweak things, I don't doubt that, but I would think they would have liked to keep Kaysar in the game since he seems to be America's fave.

[idgiehkt]

13. Janelle has bleached blonde hair and plastic boobs.

I don't think 'fair' is a concern of hers, lol.

[Shell Beau]

14. So what? What does that have to do with her ability to

play this game. You shouldn't judge people based on how they look. That is just wrong.

[idgiehkt]

15. you aren't understanding where I am coming from.

I think she uses every bit of what she's got to play the game, just like Will uses every bit of what he's got to play the game. I can't stand either of them. It's not about her looks, but she doesn't 'accidentally' look the way she does; she looks that way because she's shrewd and calculating enough to realized there are definite advantages to it. She's not being victimized by people being able to see that she works what she's got. There is nothing wrong in saying it out loud.

[Shell Beau]

16. I agree with that, but that is not what you said! You said she was

probably blowing the whole crew to get where she is. There is a huge difference using your looks to get ahead and using sexual favors. Erika is no different, except she isn't as good of a player as Janelle.

[idgiehkt]

20. yes, and that was a joke

sort of. I'm not ruling it out, lol. My whole life I've been amazed to eventually find out just what kinds of things go on under the table in just about every situation. I don't know how Janelle would have done in this game without her alliance. Honestly, I wish I could find out, I wish they had limited it a little more. But the way that Will played Janelle by having her put Diane up that week showed me everything I needed to know. Anyone Will can twist like that is weak. Danielle and Marcellus are probably about the only people that can see through him. I think I'm done with this discussion though, no need to argue about something as trivial as big brother.

[Shell Beau]

21. Well Janelle was gunning for Diane even in the beginning.

It wasn't all Will. She weighed her options and found Diane to be more of a threat. She knows where Will & Boogie stand. And she knew Diane would come after her.

[xmas74]

24. Diane wore a shirt in the house

with Janelle's mugshot on it (got it on Smoking Gun) and "Bye, Bye Bitch" written on it. IMO, that's someone to get rid of ASAP and it was done at a good time. Danielle was HoH the next week and won on an endurance challenge-something Diane used to hold a record for.

And in the case the poster mentioned above, Janelle didn't get played by Will-it was by James. The original plan was to backdoor Danielle with her noms but James made his threats to leave if she did so.

[Shell Beau]

26. Thankyou! That is exactly right! There was friction

between Diane and Janelle way before Will had anything to say about anything.

[xmas74]

28. I do some feed recap

so I remember all this crap.

Janelle made a comment last season about Diane's game on S5, basically saying that Drew played her. (Come on, he did just that. Can't be insulted by the truth.) James was the one who did the heavy bashing on the show about Diane. James, according to Janelle and Howie, gave Diane a half-assed apology on the phone after the show. Howie made the comment that Janelle's was much more sincere, that she said that she shouldn't have said it and was just disappointed that one of the two she thought should have won that season didn't win. (The other was Nak-she's a huge fan.) Diane refused to take the apology and was campaigning against Janelle before there was an all star game even announced.

[Shell Beau]

29. So Diane was holding a grudge?

She did get played by Drew. She is probably too ashamed about it and takes it out on anyone who has anything to say about it. :eyes:

[xmas74]

30. Diane was holding a huge grudge.

And it turns out that James had been feeding the grudge before the show even started.

Yep, she did get played by the most boring person to ever win BB. That has got to make her mad.


(On feeds Janelle had mentioned in the first week trying to align w/ Diane and Nakomis. The Sovs were to stay together and not betray each other but, according to a convo, they were also supposed to find "parachutes" because they knew that as a group they were the biggest target in the house. Janelle, Kaysar and Howie all mentioned that-forming alliances just in case they were all split up so that each could make it further in the game. That's why they had no problems w/ James being aligned w/ Danielle originally but the deal was that they would not betray each other.)

[Shell Beau]

33. Well James is just a whiny brat! The things he was saying

about Janelle made me sick. What a gentleman he is. And he was the main one to tell Jase not to take the game personally!! That is laughable. He takes it way more personal than anyone else. And he also had the opportunity to take out Chill Town but decided to go for Chicken George!

[xmas74]

35. And why did he whine about Jase going on the block so much?

Because he originally wanted to keep him in the house so that he would take out Janelle and Kaysar.

I feel bad for Kaysar. Not because he was voted out on his birthday but because he now knows how much James betrayed him. They both talked about how on the feeds they were closer to each other than Jan/H and that they were friends outside of the game. Now he knows what kind of friend he really has.

He looked like he wanted to cry when he say James' goodbye.

[idgiehkt]

31. I have to step back in for just a moment

Whether or not Diane was gunning for Janelle doesnt matter one iota, because Diane was one of the weakest players in the house. People shouldn't take people out based on who they don't 'like' they should take them out based on who is a threat, and I don't see how anyone could argue that Diane was nearly the threat to Janelle that Will was and is. To take someone weak like that out over someone who is a legitimate threat is so lame, and really disappointing. Janelle probably would have been evicted for that move this week, had the HOH results not been overturned. She may pay for it still. I hope so. If she doesn't, and Danielle goes home, that will probably be the end of the season for me, because the only other person in there that is really that caliber of a player is Will, and I can't stand Will.

[Shell Beau]

32. I think you are dead wrong about Diane being weak.

She may be small, but she is a pretty decent player. And if a person is gunning for you, then you get them out.

[xmas74]

34. The answer she gave

and the one that Howie and Kaysar ultimately agreed with, was that Will throws challenges while Diane was strong at endurance. Janelle repeatedly said that endurance was coming and that Diane needed to go before it happened. She and Kaysar were considered to be the top two competitors at the time for an endurance comp so I can see that logic. If it were me I'd get rid of Diane before an endurance comp popped up because of past performance.

And Danielle isn't playing that great. Her alliance of floaters (I know, she has a couple of alliances) are already talking about when to get rid of her. Erika and Marcellus want her gone and now CG knows that they were all up there putting his name in the hat to be evicted the first few weeks. Marcellus has been talking about playing Danielle's game-never give the HoH what they want. Sovs want her gone and CT will sell her out the first chance they get.

Not good when the only person you can really trust is James, one of the sneakest players to ever play the game.

[Shell Beau]

36. You really know your stuff! Thanks for all the info!

I can't stand James. Not because he is doing what it takes to win, but because of the way he is tearing people down. He is a snake.

[xmas74]

39. I was paid by a board to do recap for seasons 3,4 and 5.

The board is no longer there but they paid me a bit of money for each day of recap and paid for my feeds.

Even though I didn't get paid to do S6 recap (and haven't had the time to do S7) I still did it for fun on another site. It just isn't summer w/o me doing some recap!

Next year I'm thinking about setting up my own board and pulling a few people that are cappers over there. We'd have a donation button and, after the cost of the board, we'd just split the rest between us for the cost of feeds. I don't know yet-I'll decide in January.

[Shell Beau]

40. Cool!!

:)

[xmas74]

41. If I decide to do it I'll send you the invite.

Producers are saying that they are still planning more seasons of BB so we should be ok for a couple more years.

[Shell Beau]

42. Yay!!

:)

[xmas74]

23. The complaints were there on the boards last night.

Nothing to do w/ her and probably something to do w/ the phone calls coming in about how they saw Howie buzz in but nothing happened. There was also a malfunction with Boogie's button. There was a question Boogie never even rung in. Supposedly on the feeds he also said that he rung in, though it wasn't a question that he was eliminated on.

If two players both said they had difficulties they'd have to redo it. BB is the show that has raised the most questions in the past about comps being rigged. They can do all kinds of nasty things but they still have to follow a few basic rules when it comes to game shows. With what happened last night they'd legally have to have a redo or could get some large fines and allegations of tampering.

[underpants]

4. LOL how could you tell if Julie Chen was groggy?

:rofl:

Would she suddenly become coherent?

[xmas74]

25. The Chenbot doesn't get groggy, dammit!

[underpants]

37. -

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=5343293

[xmas74]

38. The Chenbot cannot be purged.

She will crush all us mere mortals w/ her powerful cameltoe!

[Divameow77]

5. I read that the buzzers for both

Howie and Boogie weren't workign correctly, so how is a re-do not fair?

[underpants]

6. Stuff happens

why wouldn't they just go back to where they were still in it? Why re-do the whole thing?

I would be irate if I were Erika.

[idgiehkt]

8. me toooooooo!!

poor Erica.

I'm not sure that they didn't throw it for Janelle the second time, anyway. I would really like to see season six, then chilltown, eliminated one by one and let the floaters fight it out at the end.

[Shell Beau]

9. Why would you want someone who hasn't done shit to win?

What has Marcelles done? Danielle is good, I could see her win. Erika really hasn't done shit either, nor has CG!!

[idgiehkt]

12. it's a matter of personal taste, I think,

Erika is very, very shrewd. I don't like any of season six except for James, who I only halfway like, and of course I can't stand Chilltown. Honestly, the reason I like the people I do is because I don't care for these powerful open alliances like season six. I know it's one way to do it, but the truth is I admire the tadpoles that manage to survived swimming among these groups of sharks alot more than I admire the sharks themselves. It takes alot more skill to survive alone or as a floater than it does when you have all your buddies on your side and you outnumber everyone. There is no skill in that kind of play, it's just about numbers of votes.

I do like the quite, scheming, shrewd people like Erika and June alot more than the 'groups'. I was really disappointed June didn't get to be on it, I would have loved to watch her a second time around.

[underpants]

17. I don't get this "he isn't playing" or "they are REALLY playing" stuff

everyone is playing as long as they are in the house. That is a given.

They might not be maneuvering but as long as they are inside the doors they have accomplished their goal for that week.

Hell George escaped James trying to get him out and look at how he is coasting now. Just because they run their mouth the most doesn't mean that they are necessarily "playing harder" than anyone else.

Erica is actually sitting in a good position to tell you the truth. Everyone trusts her and she isn't tied to anyone in particular.

[Shell Beau]

18. True, but some people slip through the cracks.

I like to see people win who have really worked their ass off to be there. Will in the first season is a good example of that. And even though Danielle was cruel in her season, she should have won.

[LibraLiz1973]

19. Ack, I hated Danielle and Marcellus

during their season

[Shell Beau]

22. I liked Danielle. Even if you didn't like her, I don't

think you can really deny that she played a good game!

[xmas74]

27. Watch it on Innertube or see if it's on You Tube yet.

Two sets of buzzers didn't work last night. The fan boards were calling it a fix before the show was even over.