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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:29 PM
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Do you believe people are inherently good or evil?
I used to believe that people are inherently good. I believed this in spite of routine encounters with destructive individuals, including a few in my immediate family.

Yet recent events in my life have led me to believe otherwise - that people are inherently evil. However, the moral implication of people being evil, I believe, seems a bit general. In today's modern psychological context, I think it's more likely that people are inherently selfish. The more populous we become, the more we expose ourselves to one another's cruelty.

What do you believe?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:31 PM
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1. People are inherently idiots.
The good and evil stuff pretty much comes out of how they choose to hide their idiotness. :D
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:36 PM
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2. I'll let you know the day I marry a wonderful human being.
Let alone find one.
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:50 PM
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3. Democrats are inherently good...
the Repubs have that evil flawed gene that makes them evil
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 12:58 PM
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4. I think people are inherently good.
Even some Republicans are inherently good. They just try to hide it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:06 PM
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5. Inherently bad. It takes work to be good. It's easy to be lazy and evil.
Goes straight to the question of character.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:07 PM
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6. Depends on your definitions of good and evil.
If we're speaking in universals, then I tend to equate "evil" with the scientific concept of entropic decay; that is, the tendency toward self-destruction. So, you could say that those people who chronically act in self-destructive ways and make no effort to stop it are acting on the impetus of an inherent evil/inner entropy.

I believe that "good" and "evil" are just terms we use to describe concepts; concepts that change from person to person depending on his or her morality. People don't *exist* (a static verb) in a state of inherent "good" or "evil," but they can *act* (a dynamic verb) as such.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:08 PM
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7. I'll agree with the inherently selfish part
If most people feel connected and regularly see most of the people who they are around, they will be good out of hopes that they will be treated well by those people and that those people won't hurt them in return.
When people start feel unconnected and anonymous, it is no longer as beneficial to be good. Some people who feel that they can get away with it, will do "evil" things out of selfishness.
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 01:41 PM
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8. I choose the neither option.
Some people I've met have been good from the get go...wouldn't hurt a flea in their entire lifetimes.

Then there is your basic model of evil, Dick Cheney. Has he ever done anything good?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:08 PM
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9. good
I believe that Buddhist saying that every single thing people do in life is motivated by love or the attempt at receiving love.

for some reason we dont' want to acknowledge childhood and that is what is killing us off as a species. I think most of our motives for future behavior are caused by damage before the age of 5 or 10...pretty much our whole emotional lives are mapped out during a time that most cultures don't see as relevant, which is pretty tragic
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:11 PM
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10. I think they are inherently self-focused and selfish and it takes a decent
society and proper training to make them into human beings.

But I wouldn't say they are inherently either evil or good. Just selfish.
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Sugar Smack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:11 PM
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11. Buck up, baby! We're all DOOMED.
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 02:12 PM by Sugar Smack
That's the good news. ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 02:56 PM
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12. umm.. yeah, they're good or evil, they're also good and evil
and I'm a PITA
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:08 PM
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Yes. n/t
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:08 PM
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13. I believe people are inherently
Human Beings. Whether they are good or evil is a judgement I leave to God. ...or maybe Rabrrrrrr when he's wearing his crankypants.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:14 PM
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14. We have defined good & evil such that everyone is both. -NT
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:17 PM
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15. neither
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 04:17 PM by MATTMAN
n/t
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:20 PM
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16. i believe most are inherently good but a minority is inherently evil
most people just want to be let alone to live their own lives but there is a significant fraction of people who cannot be happy unless they are fucking w. others
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:22 PM
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17. I don't believe in good & evil.
They are human constructs, like time & money.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:44 PM
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18. No.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 06:47 PM
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19. I think people are inherently good.
Circumstances in their life, chemical imbalances and
psychological problems can all contribute to their souring.

What if they are born with psych problems?
That's a whole different ballgame.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:33 PM
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20. Neither ... They're just animals. n/t
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:37 PM
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21. Both
some people are good and some are evil.

There was a line in the move Secondhand Lions where a man is teaching a young boy the rules for life. He said sometimes we have to believe certain things whether they are true or not. One of those is that people are inherently good. The resoning being - we lead better lives if that is our basic assumption. Imagine living a life believing that all people are inherently evil!

Better to be disappointed than to sink to our lowest common denominator.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:38 PM
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22. I do believe most people are inherently good
However, they're also sheep for the most part and go along unthinkingly with a lot of stuff. That gives the evil minority the ability to play on that and take advantage of it.

Most people, in a one on one situation, will reach out to someone without really thinking too much about it. But put them in a group and they wait for someone else to act. Put someone in charge who is evil and they'll tend to follow that lead (as long as the progression is subtly and artfully done).

I think you're right that group dynamics play a large part in this. But as individuals, I think most people are fairly compassionate and relatively kind.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:52 PM
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23. I think many people take the "path of least resistance" these days.
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 08:53 PM by Joe Fields
A lot of the moral fabric of our collective society is pretty frayed around the edges, and moth eaten in some places.

I think people want to be good, but in many instances it is just too much work for them.

I can think of a number of reasons why this is.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:57 PM
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24. Good. The alternative is too sad to contemplate.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:00 PM
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25. I think the capacity for both is inherent
only in our actions can we determine...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:10 PM
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26. Gevil. Which is to say, both.
It's all a matter of which is sublimated and which is brought to the fore, IMHO.

Hi again, Writer. :hi:

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:12 PM
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27. No.
People make good decisions and bad ones, they act out of altruism and self-interest. They don't seem to be any better at one or the other, generally.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:26 PM
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28. yes
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