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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:50 PM
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My doctor made me cry today...
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 05:51 PM by YellowRubberDuckie
So unprofessional. I went in to get something checked, and when the nurse weighed me, the other one put the wrong weight on the chart. So the doc yelled at me for gaining 50 pounds, freaking out about what I was eating, etc, etc. I was like, excuse me, but I worked my ass off to lose 35! I do not weigh over 300 pounds!! She calmed down, but the bad attitude remained, and she never apologized. I was so shocked that I started crying. God, that office is so unprofessional. She wanted me to come in for a blood test, said something in passing about me fasting or something, then nothing else was ever said. I didn't even get my receipt. I'm never going back.
Duckie
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 05:58 PM
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1. When a doctor yells at you, it's time to punch out the doctor.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:03 PM by Gormy Cuss
Not that I would do so, but I'd be sorely tempted. Worse yet is a doctor who won't apologize. I wish they'd screen out the arrogant jerks before they get their medical licenses.

So what if you HAD gained 50 pounds? You would deserve a professional consultation on why that is unhealthful and ways that you might approach the problem -- not a scolding by someone who thinks a white coat and stethoscope makes her your parent.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:00 PM
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2. Doctors must take classes in Bad Attitude.
So many of them think that they can judge, berate, and harass people. x(

I'm a very glad that you are not going back to that doctor. You'll find a better one. :)
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:03 PM
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3. Good for you, Duckie!

Dump the jerk,(jerkette)!

You are trying to get help and the doctor
yells at you- and it was their mistake?!?

I don't think so.

Not only should you dump them, report them.
That BS is totally uncalled for. Who is the hell
do they think they are?

:hug:
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:03 PM
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4. get this....
when I was anorexic.... I went in ....during the winter in jean and a sweater and weighed 90 lbs......with clothes on ....the nurse said what a good weight... seriously....
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:10 PM
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7. What a sick society we live in when 90 pounds
is called a good weight. We worship thin.


I am most American women's nightmare, trust me on that one.

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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:42 PM
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29. What the hell?
Good Lord. Idiot woman. :eyes:
Duckie
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:04 PM
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5. Don't let a horse's ass of a doctor get between you and the medical
care you need. She'll get the message when you have your files transferred to another doctor. Make a point of having the receptionist tell her why. :hug:
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:09 PM
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6. Call your insurance company's provider relations
department and report the doctor. Tell them the behavior was less than professional. I work in the prov relations dept for an HMO and they do log these types of complaints.

Hey, if you were beligerent toward the doctor and if that doctor was your PCP, she could ask that you be removed from her panel of patients for your behavior. Turn about is fair play.

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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:10 PM
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8. That's awful!
Here's a hug for you..:hug: Move on and find a more compassionate doc...they are out there, even if it sometimes takes a long time to get into see them! :)
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:13 PM
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9. Wow! She yelled at you?
She needs a new profession. :wtf:
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:13 PM
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10. Doctors like that can make you ill. Staying away is a good idea.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:22 PM
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11. What the f* happened to all the good doctors?
I'm sorry, that's awful. I'd never take that from any medical professional.

I think it's time we start emphasizing patient-care in medical schools as being as important as medical knowledge.

My best friend's doctor yelled at her saying he wouldn't see her anymore unless she abandoned her vegetarian diet because he doesn't think it's a healthy valid life-choice. He actually gave her a tuna sandwich and told her he expects her to eat one daily. He advertises as new-age, homeopathic and a practitioner of alternative medicine. I'd hate to see what he thinks is close-minded and traditional.

I don't see why they think they have the right. A doctor's job is to work with the patient to improve health...if a patent wants to take a different course of action or disagrees with or simply cannot follow a course of treatment, the doctor should work with them: choosing a course of action, explain options, etc. to improve the patient's health. Not make threats or yell.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:29 PM
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12. I postponed my Cardiologist's appointment.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:30 PM by zanne
He doesn't yell, but he nags, and he usually does it when I'm on the damn treadmill having a stress test. He'll tell me I have to exercise more, and how hard it is to find a match for a heart transplant. On one hand, I do need some extra "urging" to do what I have to do. On the other hand, that doesn't help if I'm putting off appointments.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:29 PM
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13. I'm in med school right now
and you're totally right. Luckily, we do have an entire curriculum devoted to building skills in communicating with patients (which is somewhat more complicated than it might appear at first glance.) Unfortunately, this is a very new practice (as in it's only existed for a couple of years) but hopefully the current batch of med students around the country will become better and more empathetic doctors for it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:38 PM
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14. You're lucky. Mine blames EVERYTHING on anxiety.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:39 PM by HypnoToad
Or anti-anxiety meds.

You'd think they'd have learned after they saw the fuckin' disc lodged into my spinal cord...

They're all unprofessional. Apart from when the bill comes.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:39 PM
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15. That's outrageous!
Even if you had gained 300 pounds, demeaning you is hardly a way to encourage weight loss.

And starvation diets? fasting? I would seriously question that doctor's competence.
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:41 PM
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16. One needs to fast
in order to make the bloodwork accurate. In particular, cholesterol and blood sugar are highly changed by eating, and so the blood tests are not correct unless you haven't eaten for about 12 hours before the blood is drawn.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:51 PM
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19. I see. I thought it was a suggestion to lose weight. nt.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:37 PM
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24. Um, if I don't have breakfast, my day is shot.
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 09:38 PM by YellowRubberDuckie
I usually have an egg, a piece of some kind of breakfast meat and cheese on an english muffin. I've been having that every morning since I started this diet, and it's working. If I don't eat breakfast, I'm gittery and sick. I am on a schedule, and it's helped me to lose the 35 pounds i've lost so far.
Duckie
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:43 PM
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30. A solid breakfast is probably the most important meal of the day
I was just explaining to the poster why one is supposed to fast before a blood test--that's all. It's certainly not a good dieting method.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:53 PM
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31. She did want me to go in on Tuesday for a blood test...
And I'm not going now. I'll find someplace else to go. But I cannot fast for 12 hours prior.
Duckie
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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:13 PM
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33. well, it depends on what the blood test is for
but if it's for cholesterol or blood sugar, the test will be quite inaccurate if you've eaten

but obviously, that's something between you and your (hopefully new or improved) doctor
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 06:16 AM
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43. Why can't you fast for 12 hours? Make the blood test for the early AM
as they usually do and don't have your usual dinner.

The docs tend to schedule the blood test appointments for the early am as a matter of course.

And your doc freaking out about you gaining 50 lbs is a GOOD reaction. It would have been nice if upon realizing it was a mistake and apologized, but for a doc to NOT react to a critical medical condition getting worse would have been MORE in-appropriate.

It's awesome that you've lost 35 lbs. It's hard work. Stick with the doc, get the blood tests done and don't worry about it.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:53 PM
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50. I'm not sticking with the doc...
And she shouldn't have yelled at me. And she should have apologized when she realized she had made a mistake. Thanks for the comment, but there are other ways than freaking out to handle something like that. She took it personally, and I don't even know the woman!
Duckie
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:53 PM
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32. I was just going to say the same thing.
I usually have blood tests before I go to work in the morning, so that I can arrange to fast from 12 hours before. Then I pick up breakfast on the way to the office.

The request for fasting before a blood test to check, for instance, cholesterol levels is entirely normal and was not an insult from the doctor.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:48 PM
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17. If she is part of group file a complaint
Also notify your insurance carrier and tell them. They can take groups off their plans if they get enough complaints.

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:48 PM
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18. I had an ob/gyn like that...
Edited on Fri Aug-18-06 06:51 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
She was my last straw with Kaiser.

If you want to take the time, there must be someplace locally where you can file a complaint. This website may have the info you need: http://www.abika.com/Reports/Samples/Physician.htm

I'm sorry you had such a miserable time, Ducky. :hug::hug::hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:52 PM
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20. My dear YellowRubberDuckie........
Yes, indeed, you need a new doctor.

And I agree about reporting your former doctor!

She had no business treating you that way...and no apology? Forget her!

And, here's a hug....... :hug:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:41 PM
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27. You are so sweet, thanks so much!
:hug:
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:55 PM
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21. I send you a hug.....
and its a good hug....never worry about it...Peace..RK:dunce:
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:42 PM
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28. Yer such a sweetie, REDKING.
Thanks.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:56 PM
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22. Did she even look at you?
You had lost 35 pounds and the person noted you had gained 50 lbs.? That's a difference of 85 pounds. She should have been able to look at you and know the weight was wrong.
I'll bet she was just looking at the chart and treating you like a piece of paper and not a total person.
I wish you luck in finding better medical care.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:40 PM
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25. My clothes that I bought three weeks ago are already falling off my ass.
I'm not gaining weight. And even though I'm not eating the best things I could be eating, I'm still losing weight/gaining muscle. It's too fucking hot out here in Oklahoma to move when I get home. I am so exhausted from the heat when I get home, if I did, I'd probably end up in the ER every night.
Duckie
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 06:57 PM
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23. NH judge rules insulting, racist remarks by doctors are OK....
There was a case here recently that caused quite a stir. An old doctor insulted an overweight woman ahttp://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/07/06/judge_strikes_down_rules_requiring_doctors_to_be_respectful/
His remarks were also racist as hell, but he got away with it.








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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 09:41 PM
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26. I'm not going to take her to court.
She was rude, but it doesn't warrant getting an attorney involved.
Duckie
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:28 PM
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34. good christ, Duckie. You should report her to the state board.
That kind of unprofessional behavior is totally unacceptable. I am sorry. :hug: I wish you lived nearby so that you could see our doc. Sigh.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:42 PM
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35. Bear in mind, Duckie, that most doctors know less about nutrition than
I do about heart surgery. Fasting...blood testing...all these possibilities without even asking about your regular diet, it seems.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:43 PM
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36. They get you at your most vulnerable. Fight back against them.
Doctors get you when you are most vulnerable and they MUST treat you with respect and professionalism.

As a fat-girl...I have had my share of really nasty doctors.

What doctors fail to realize is that fat or over weight people deserve the same medical treatment as skinny people. When I go to a doctor for a sore throat....I REFUSE to get on the scale. My weight has nothing to do with the correct treatment. If they need to know my weight to prescribe the correct medications, I can tell them. I'm not going to lie for godsakes....I am sick enough to be in their presence and I want to get better. I just refuse to be treated like a cow at the slaughterhouse and weighed-in before I meet my fate.

I know it's hard to be confrontational...but you must stand up for yourself and your life and DEMAND proper respect and competent healthcare.



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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:03 PM
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39. I am fat, and I HATE the "public" weighing, but I also raise and
care for a lot of animals (not to mention several teenagers) and understand the point of recording weight. It provides baseline data for potential changes in the future or may indicate change in the present.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 09:19 AM
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44. Yes, but human beings can speak. If someone needs to know my weight I
tell them. I am perfectly capable of understanding when my weight is pertinent and when it is not.

For a case of strep throat? Not.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 10:48 AM
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45. hmm do you tell them your height, BP and temperature as well?
these are just things that are recorded regularly, its not designed to humiliate you (although as I said I don't like to be reminded of the weight in such a public way either)
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:37 AM
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47. Apples and oranges. And yes..I am capable of remembering my height.
I have no problem with them taking my blood pressure, provided they don't do it in the hallway in front of everyone. Same with my temp.

Publicly weighing people like livestock is ridiculous and actually discourages many obese people from seeking medical treatment.

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sir_captain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:42 AM
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48. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with you
I understand why it is not fun and can be embarassing, and it certainly ought to be done in a private exam room.

But accurate weight measurements are critical. Weight-related health problems are second only to tobacco as a cause of death in this country. It is a medical necessity to track this for every patient.

That said, it is obviously also a necessity for the medical professional to be completely non-judgemental and supportive in this aspect of his/her care.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 10:56 PM
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37. Hugs Beautiful Duckie!
That just totally sucks!!! Am mad for you :grr:

After my hysterectomy, I had trouble finding the right hormone replacement therapy. Went to one doc, and the asshole told me, "It's just all in your mind." Never went back to that creep.

Some doctors are pretty insensitive.

For you :hug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:01 PM
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38. You are young and impressionable.
Personally, I wouldn't give a flying fuck. Someday you will learn that your emotions are not controlled by the mistakes and thoughts of others.

I suppose that if I called you a "child-molesting terrorist" you would burst into tears?

Please.

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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:57 PM
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52. Floog, good Lord.
I never take anything you say seriously. And I know my emotions are not controlled by the mistakes and thoughts of others. I think I was just so...shocked at my treatment. YOU could never make me cry.
Duckie
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-18-06 11:31 PM
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40. I would have kicked her sorry ASS
doctor or no, she had it COMING
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:03 AM
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41. Definitely dump her
There is no need for you to take that sort of abuse from an alleged professional. Demeaning a person is no way to get them to make a positive change.

When I moved here 11 years ago and finally got health insurance I went to see my new Dr. I mentioned the chronic headaches I'd had since my teens, which later were diagnosed as migraines. She didn't ask any questions or examine me in any way but simply replied "lose weight, that will help". I never returned to her again but waited until I was notified she'd left the HMO practice then selected a different doctor and started up with her.

The doctor may think it's "Tough Love", but it's disrespectful and unprofessional.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 02:20 AM
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42. we get what we pay for?
gatz on losing 35, at least you have insurance.
they didn't cut me off just offered me a $7000 a year policy.

I would complain to the doctor.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 11:26 AM
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46. Never see her again.
That is one solution. Find another doctor who has learned how to treat you like a human being.

:hug:
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:25 PM
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49. The correct rsponse is to immediately announce "You're FIRED!"
Then march to the front desk and ask for a appt ASAP, with a Professional Doctor.

I did it to my (male) gyno ages ago. It was VERY satisfying.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-19-06 12:56 PM
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51. Good for you. Don't put up with that.
:hug: There are websites you can use to rate your doctors, and I'd take advantage of them. Spread the word. No one should be treated like that by a professional---it's extremely rude and UNprofessional, not to mention abusive. :grr: If you lived in this area, I'd point you to my doctor. He's a GP, and I've been going to him for seventeen years. He's polite, quiet, professional, knowledgeable, and genuinely interested in my health. He jokes with me when it's appropriate and is a great guy. :)
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