How many have grown children living at home

[Lowell]

I hope you guys and gals don't mind if I rant for a minute. I've had something eating at me for a long time now and its time to vent.

In the past six years I've had everyone of my grown kids move back home for a while. Some of them for a month or two, one of them for six months. All of them are the victims of Bush's booming economy. It seems like a college education and a desire to work don't mean much in America today. Between jobs being outsourced and programs being cut today's young people have a pretty grim economic future ahead of them. Not to mention the enormous debt our grandchildren are facing because of this administration's destruction of the middle class.

I had five children, two girls and three boys. My son Jean-Paul was murdered twenty years ago and that has been hard enough to live with, but seeing my surviving children live in an era of little hope is just as bad. Both of my daughters have moved home for months on end. One brought my four grandchildren to share the little home my wife and I paid off before Bush took office. My oldest son came home when his technical job was outsourced to India. It took him six months to get back on his feet, barely.

My other son lost his home and he and his wife and another granddaughter moved in for a while. Then they moved out. He has suffered from mental illness since witnessing the murder of his little brother twenty years ago. This administration cut his access to the medications he needed for his illness and soon he sank into a dark world of delusional paranoia. He bought into all the fear these people have been pushing. He thought the al Qadea and CIA were after him. Then one morning last December he shot himself. Another victim of the Bush administration.

I don't know how much more of this great economy these compassionate conservatives have foisted on us. It is sad to think that our children will never have as good as their parents have. It is not fair to us, the working middle class. How many of you have found yourselves in the same situation? How many have grown children living at home because all the years you scrimped, saved and sacrificed to pay for their educations and now it means little to nothing?

I'll stop ranting now. Thanks.

[Nicole]

1. I don't

However I didn't want your thread to go unanswered. :pals:

I'm sorry for the things your family has been through, especially the loss of your sons. Your's is a pain no parent should have to endure.

I hope it gets better for all of you.

[China_cat]

2. Sometimes you just have to rant

it's better than going out in the back yard and screaming.

The worst thing ever has to be the loss of a child. For you to lose 2 to such horrible circumstances is beyond even trying to understand what you must be feeling.

Yes, I had a son move back in with me with his oldest son. They were here for 4 years. A year after they moved out my son was diagnosed with MS and recently has had it seriously progress. With no job now because he's unable to work, no health insurance and it looks like he's going to be going to jail because he can't make his child support payments and the state of PA won't recognize his inability to work.

We can't help anymore because of my husband's job being outsourced.

Thank you Mr. Bush.

[Lowell]

4. Thanks China_Cat

I've felt like screaming in the backyard before. But it really doesn't accomplish much. And I just don't know if I'm equipped to loose anymore children. It's an experience that leaves you forever with a loss that just can't be filled.

I'm sorry to hear about your son and his MS. The health industry in this country is disgusting. Until we socialize medicine we are doomed to second rate care. I think this is one of the problems this government is most afraid of. They will take care of themselves, but heaven help us if we demand the same health care our congress critters have. I think we should put them all on minimum wage and strip away their health care. See how fast things would change.

[knowbody0]

3. I hope the rant helped

I've been mom for 32 years now, and had actually planned on a ceremony to blow up my oven when the last kid was grown. My kids live together because they cannot afford not to. My sons worked 10 years at a skilled job for less an hour than I was making when the first was born. Pie in the sky!

On the other hand, America consumes too much, wastes too much, and pollutes too much, so the change actually was inevitable. What we need now is families sticking together tying up the loose ends and communities growing stronger and more independent.

I care for my grandchild, help out with groceries, do the laundry for the boys and every Sunday we sit down for the big dinner where we sort through the crap of life.

Like you, this is not what I had planned for their futures, but I feel a change coming that will be good for all of us. An end to this country's war mongering caused by US, no longer fooled by those who need us to be afraid.

Stay strong for your children and be as creative as you can be in solving the problems.

Love and Peace

[Lowell]

7. That's a great idea, blow up the oven!

I'm surprised my wife hasn't thought of that. But then we, too, enjoy having everyone over for a family dinner every couple weeks. I come from a large farming family and we used to do it every Sunday afternoon.

I am very close to my retirement and I worry about not being able to make ends meet sometimes. I am helping all my kids out with financial and moral support. But there is only so much you can do. I am just glad my surviving son is too old to serve now.

When I got back from Vietnam I thought I could handle anything life decided to throw at me. I've always believed that any day spent above ground was a good day. But it is strange, after loosing so many friends in that other senseless war, loosing your own is worse. I really feel for the parents loosing their sons and daughters in Iraq and Afghanistan today.

Sometimes I just get fed up and have to vent. Thanks for the listen.

[xmas74]

5. I'm an adult child who has moved back home.

My daughter and I moved back with my parents a year ago. Once upon a time I had a decent paying job but funding was cut to that department. Now I'm barely making over minimum wage and rarely receive child support.

If I had to pay for rent, food, utilities, child care, insurance, gas for my car, etc-no extras like cable or internet or phone-I would be almost $500 in the hole every month. And I make just barely enough that I don't qualify for assistance. I give my parents most of my check now to help out but I know that it's still not enough.

It sucks. I don't go out. I don't visit w/ friends anymore. I'm in a constantly depressed funk. I just feel worthless knowing that I cannot support my daughter by myself.

[Lowell]

8. Bless your heart xmas74

I know it is as hard on the children as it is the parents. We brought you into this world full of hope for a bright and glorious future. Now it is such a shame to see what the world has come too.

Don't every think you are worthless. You're not. The loss of any one person is really felt by all. Hang in there and we can all work together to make things better. We just have to make a few changes and get the attention of those who are ruining this great country.

[Tikki]

6. You have to wonder where they would have....

gone if you didn't have your home. You obviously care about your children so very much....

Like your family, our children... two grown sons, live with us.
They both are productive, but one is the true 'failure to launch'....but, then I think
where would he launch to in this So Cal economy. The other son, a hardworking single father,
lives here along with his toddler son.... and grandpa and I are daycare.
Both sons pay something towards household expenses....and we figure in three or four years
or so the son with the grandson will have saved enough that he may be able to capture a
home to buy as homes prices hit near the bottom of the burst bubble.

Tikki...

[Lowell]

10. I can't even go there!

My brother ended up on the streets when he got back from Vietnam. He had a drug habit and his whole life had fallen around his ears. It took years for him to finally come around and seek help.

Nothing is more important than family. I think that if a few of these assclowns in Washington were sharing the sacrifice we would see real change. But they have done their damnest to make this a nation of paupers. You are either filthy rich or dirt poor. The middle class is under constant attack.

It is good that your children are trying to ease the financial burden. Mine have made so little that I don't expect anything from them. It is just enough that I get to see them and can help. I can't believe we are going to face two more years of this administration.

[Left Is Write]

9. I'm sorry your kids are having troubles.

It's good of you to take them in, though.

My oldest is 19, and she is living in California right now (I am in Idaho).

[trof]

11. I cannot imagine how you begin to deal with such a loss.

If something happened to our daughter I think I'd just dig a hole and climb in and pull it in after me.
No, happily she's married to a (so far) successful attorney.
I guess in good times and bad, folks need lawyers.
We're nuts about him AND our 4 year old grandson.
BTW, his middle name is Lowell.

Bless you for what you're able to do and just for carrying on.

And I have to say this...
I think I'm having a bit of a tough time because I just went on MediCare and my health insurance premiums doubled and then I read something like your story.
:-(
Never mind.
I'm fine.

[Lowell]

12. It is good to hear that some of our children are doing well

Lowell is an old family name. I've only met a few, mostly cousins.

There is nothing I can say about dealing with the loss of children. I've been active in the Patriot Guard Riders since last October. I've attended twenty three funerals of young men and women here in Florida during that time. I thought maybe there was something I could say to these parents to give them comfort, but there isn't. I've tried several times to talk with them and usually we just end up hugging each other.

Medical cost are crazy. I know what you mean about everything doubling. After I got out of the service, after 15 years, I hated the VA and didn't want anything to do with them or the government anymore. Then last year I discovered that the insurance our company was providing was awful. I ended up going to the VA and registering. Now at least I can afford my meds and health care. But this administration is doing every thing in their power to diminish that. I hope your health improves. Maybe we can all force their hand to do something about it come November.