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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:48 PM
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Would you be more inclined to watch a male or female
magician? And by that, I don't mean dove bowls, but real, gritty
street magic kind of stuff. What's your preference and why? I
have a personal stake in this. If you don't like illlusions at
all, that's perfectly fine.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:49 PM
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1. Sparkly outfits are better in bikini form.
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 04:50 PM by MrCoffee
But, as long as the magician knows their stuff, I don't care either way. Ricky Jay is the shiz-nits as far as illusionists go (IMHO), but he's a bit rough on the eyes.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:50 PM
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2. Ah, I see what you mean.
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 04:51 PM by ginbarn
I guess my male assistant will have to wear a bikini. :P
I haven't seen many women doing street magic, so I'm
curious.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:53 PM
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3. go for it. street magic is cool. unless you're david blaine...
which i don't get. he's got some cool tricks.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:55 PM
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4. I admire his ability, for the most part
but he's offputting. Pretty soon, I'll pretty much have
him bettered, I think. But it's stuff traditionally
done by men - gory, penetrating fists through guts, that
kind of thing. That's the exception rather than the rule.
I think I'm slightly more likable than Blaine.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:58 PM
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6. Fists through guts? Huh?
I have no idea what you mean. I've never seen a trick like that. Must be my sheltered upbringing.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:03 PM
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7. It's called "Gutbuster"
and you reach through a confederate and show that you've gone
completely through their body. It's an awesome effect. But,
it's aggressive.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:05 PM
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9. If you can pull off the gutbuster, then more power to you.
That would be really cool to see.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:07 PM
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10. I'll find out this weekend.
It is REALLY cool. Maybe because what I do is so aggressive,
it seems funny coming from a female. How does that strike you?
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:08 PM
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15. I think it might make for a bigger shock factor...
which would probably increase the impact (no pun intended) of the performance. tape it and post it online. I wanna see!!!!
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Kickoutthejams23 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:55 PM
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5. Penn and Teller are my favorites
but for entertainers in general I prefer an attractive female.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:04 PM
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8. I like them too
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 05:05 PM by ginbarn
We've had dinner with them on a couple of occasions.
Teller, in particular, has some of the most elegant
illusions I've ever seen.

Is just female close enough? I don't know whether
I register on the attractive meter. Derby thinks
so, but I guess I should defer to his sense.
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Kickoutthejams23 Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:10 PM
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16. Yeah they are great.
had a chance to break bread with them a few times in the early nineties when they were still doing the NJ,NY,CT circuit. Next time you eat with them make sure to bring a hidden bag of parsley. :popcorn:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:31 AM
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21. You nut.
:rofl:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:07 PM
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11. Absolutely no preference
I enjoy seeing a good magic act no matter what the genderal persuasion.
:-)
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:07 PM
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12. either gender is fine with me
the personalty of the performer is key, imo.

David Blaine is the exception, because he's a hottie.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:32 AM
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22. Really? You like Blaine?
I think that's the first time I've ever heard that.
I agree with you though. Personality means a lot.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:07 PM
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13. Female just for the novelty factor
I've never seen a female magician. Male magicians are a dime a dozen.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:33 AM
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23. That's true
I've seen female magicians, but they all have that showgirl
quality that I avoid like the plague. I'm pretty much like
Blaine or any host of street magicians, except I have a
ponytail and a higher voice.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:08 PM
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14. I like Criss Angel
I love the street magic stuff. MUCH more than the traditional magician in a tux, assistant in sparkly bikini type stuff.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:34 AM
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24. I like it too
My magic is pretty aggressive, so that style appeals to me
tremendously.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:12 PM
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17. It's funny, but as I think about this, I realize that I could not
take a woman magician seriously, at least upon initial reaction.

Of course, I know intellectually there is no difference, and that any prejudice is asinine and illogical. But when I think of watching a female magician, I discover that my mind's first reaction is "Well, maybe as a warmup show or something, but not as the main show."

Hmmmm.... how odd.

Must meditate on this.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:36 AM
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25. This is exactly what I wanted to know
I believe this is a very common reaction, but nobody will admit to it.
I hope I can change that. I don't use the sexy/showgirl vibe at all and
that in itself is different from most female magicians.

I've also learned that the more I can let men think they are directing
the illusion, or that they are actually responsible for it, the better.
I find that odd, but I can work with it.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:38 PM
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18. I wouldn't have a preference, with one caveat:
It seems that very often when women perform something that is more commonly done by men there is an attempt to add a sexy/erotic element. I think I would be very disturbed by a super-sexy 'fist through gut'...
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:43 PM
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20. You *think* that might be disturbing??? LOL
that's too funny.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:37 AM
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26. Um, yeah, okay.
I don't in any way put off a sexy vibe. Nuh uh. Aggressive
magic is no place for that in my opinion.
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:41 PM
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19. The illusion matters most to me
I saw a guy at the Magic Castle once who I really enjoyed. But I remember thinking, this would be so cool done by a female. I think because it was very up-close, intimate, and he was soft-spoken. He did card tricks.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 08:39 AM
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27. That's my very favorite thing
James Randi and I were sitting together at dinner one night
and sure. I knew how he was doing table magic, but I'm like
a little kid. I absolutely love that stuff. The closer, the
more subtle the better.

I hope I can go to Magic Castle before I die.
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:06 AM
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32. I try to go whenever I'm in L.A.
It's an amazing experience.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:12 AM
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33. Are you a member?
I've got a non-resident application I haven't filled out yet.
I've also got a standing offer to visit from a producer friend.
I just need to get to LA. :)
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nosillies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:42 AM
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34. No, I can hardly tie my own shoelaces,
let alone be a prestidigitator! I'm slow, too. I'd suck. Just a major magic fan! But I have my sneaky ways of getting passes. Fill out your application and get there!
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:04 AM
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28. I think it would be great
A real differentiator for you. Comedy or straight?
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:16 AM
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29. Mostly straight
I like the aggressive intensity of straight street magic.
I always tell people that the whole sugar and spice
thing escaped me. I hope it's great.

I just put a signed quarter through a soda can out of
a vending machine for my coworker. He's baffled but
his ego will not allow him to act like he's seen a
miracle. He did say, as I was leaving, "You've become
a pro."
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:30 AM
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30. I think it will really screw with some men's minds
Their ego's won't allow them to admit having been fooled by a woman.

I used to go to the World Magic Summit conventions when they were in DC. Loved getting blown away by the pros. One of the funniest things I have ever seen was a video they did as a spoof of Blaine's street magic. David Williamson did a video called Road Magic were he went around DC doing hilarious stuff in town and showed it at the dinner that night.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:35 AM
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31. That's really funny
I'd love to see that! To this day, I absolutely love watching the pros.
I have the same feeling of wonder I did as a kid.

With men I often have to let them think they are responsible for the
outcome. I have one trick I call Human Divining Rod. It's a card trick
with ribbons/reverse ribbons and the whole time I'm telling them that
they are performing this, not me. No matter what I've done before, that's
the one where they start bringing their friends around.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 11:43 AM
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35. This thread must include this video...
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 11:44 AM by gmoney
http://www.unlienparjour.com/

Note: not safe for work, but pretty tame...
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