just because we need a good debate going in the Lounge:

[wildhorses]

let's say that its time for you and your spouse to discuss permanent birth control. Which do you choose and why?

[billyskank]

1. You're talking about boys/girls and sex again

:cry:

[wildhorses]

4. well, you know how strict the mods are...

one of these days billyskank...your true love will come along...and then...KABOOM









she will be one lucky girl to get our billyskank:loveya:

[billyskank]

8. I hope so

and thanks :hug:

[datasuspect]

2. government sponsored forced sterlization

joking. they just save that for brown people.

[wildhorses]

5. ......

its a conspiracy...

[datasuspect]

21. not really

it is well documented that the united states and the drug industry have conducted mass sterilization projects in places like mexico and puerto rico.

the eugenics movement is alive and well.

[wildhorses]

24. yes, and I guess that in order to meet the criteria of conspiracy

it must be undocumented...

[NewWaveChick1981]

3. I would not choose a hysterectomy, and here's why:

The impact on a woman's body is far more serious than the impact to a man from a vasectomy. The surgery itself is major and removes internal organs. The lack of hormones that these organs generate will cause a woman to go into menopause prematurely. Recovery time from the surgery is at least six weeks if not longer. Scarring is permanent and can be extensive. However, a vasectomy involves a small incision, can be done in a doctor's office, and is considered minor surgery. The entire procedure takes a lot less time and impact to a man's body, and recovery time is much less.

My mother underwent a hysterectomy for medical reasons, and she does not recommend it to ANYONE unless it's completely necessary. A tubal ligation is preferable, but it still involves surgery. My brother-in-law has a vasectomy, and he said he was only uncomfortable for a weekend. Just 'cause a guy doesn't want to think of himself as "shooting blanks" is no reason for a woman to have to remove internal organs just to prevent pregnancy.

My opinion. :) And that's why I take oral contraceptives.

[wildhorses]

6. will you continue to take the pill until menopause?

and should I add tubal ligation as an option?
and oh yeah, thanks for participating in my poll:hi:

[NewWaveChick1981]

15. Yes, and yes.

:hi: Hubby talked a good show about getting a vasectomy for years, but he won't. I need to take the Pill for other reasons as well, so I'll take it as long as I can.

Yeah, I guess you should add tubal ligation. It's a better option than hysterectomy IMO. :hi:

And you're welcome!

[MissMillie]

10. a hysterectomy is not the female equivalent to a vasectomy

A tubal ligation is the female equivalent.

Certainly a tubal ligation is far more risk and trouble than a vasectomy, but it is far LESS trouble and risk than a hysterectomy.

My tubal ligation recovery was merely a week.

[NewWaveChick1981]

20. I know. That's why I showed the differences between them.

I'm glad your ligation went well! :)

[sarge43]

32. The ovaries aren't always removed during a hysterectomy

and even a partial ovary is sufficient to maintain estrogen levels. With the so called bikini cut (horizontal incision just above the pubic bone), the scarring is barely noticeable.

That said, you're absolutely right that a hysterectomy is the least preferable birth control method - way too extreme. The only positive thing about it is that it is foolproof.

[buddhamama]

7. i am not giving an answer here

per se, but women have the option of having their tubes tied- not nearly as invasive or dangerous to women's health as a hysterectomy.

[wildhorses]

9. okay, that does it!! I am ammending my poll and adding

tubal ligation as an option...now which one needs to go:shrug:

[buddhamama]

11. what if you replaced

tubal ligation with your last choice in the poll "other" :shrug:

[MissMillie]

12. no, replace hysterectomy with tubal

because hysterectomy is not the female equivalent to a vasectomy.

[buddhamama]

16. good point

you're correct and i agree with your replacement.

[wildhorses]

17. I understand that IT is not equivalent but, it is still a viable

option...

[MissMillie]

18. yes, it is

but you don't have castration on the list, and that's viable too. Hysterectomy is the equivalent to castration.

[wildhorses]

19. well, then...watch this...

presto change-o.....DAY-O....daylight come and me wanna go home



































excuse me I digressed:blush:

[wildhorses]

13. well, I can do that...but what do you think about it now?

:shrug:

[Phillycat]

14. Well, vascectomy and hysterectomy are not comparable.

A tubal ligation would be more comparable to a vascectomy. A hysterectomy removes the woman's uterus and will throw her into menopause regardless of her age. It's incredibly invasive surgery and requires a long and painful healing process.

[wildhorses]

23. true. wonder how the men are voting???

where are the MEN?? have you noticed that besides billyskank, no other man has posted???hmmmmm....

[billyskank]

33. I would do the snip & tie

if I were married and we did not want any more kids.

[LaraMN]

22. Vasectomy! Best copay we ever spent!

If I'd had a c-section with my last baby, I might've just had them tie my tubes while they were in, but I didn't; so my husband got snipped. It's been wonderful never having to think about birth control, and I certainly don't miss being on synthetic hormones! My husband was fine with the idea of a vasectomy; and I got to go with and watch the procedure.

[wildhorses]

25. ok, and remember I work in an ER but,

:wow:

[LaraMN]

35. The doctor lifted up the "tubes" when he was about to cut them, so I could

see them better. They weren't quite as I'd pictured them being. Unfortunately for my husband, the local anesthetic didn't take well, so he was red and shaking for most of the procedure, but he survived.

[dolo amber]

26. I don't do well under anesthesia

I don't freak or anything, but I tend to...talk. Freely. It's kinda like truth serum. :D

When I had my last I *did* have a c-section, and I did tell them to snip, burn, remove, dynamite...whatever needed to be done. I then apparently (so said my SO at the time who was in with me) told the doctor, "You messed up my mom's hysterectomy. If you fuck this up, I swear to god I will firebomb your house".

:rofl:

(They knocked me completely out shortly thereafter. :D)

[wildhorses]

27. that is hilarious

:rofl:

[Lowell]

28. vasectomy is easy

and relatively painless. I got mine twenty odd years ago and never thought about or worried about it again. It is much simpler than going through the ordeal of a hysterectomy. My wife had her hysterectomy for medical reasons and it was awful.

[wildhorses]

29. thanks for participating in my poll....

how much you wanna bet that it was a man who voted for: "come on in, three is an interesting number"? :rofl:

[taterguy]

30. Vasectomies rock

Once you decide you don't want to reproduce a vasectomy is the way to go. I had mine done a few months ago. The anesthesia injections were incredibly painful but they only lasted a few seconds, seemed like a fair trade for a lifetime of worry-free pleasure. I was in and out of the doctor's office in less than an hour.

Besides, the official recovery program is every man's dream: spending a weekend on the couch with a TV remote.

[begin_within]

31. How about the "bi now, gay later" plan?

[MrCoffee]

34. I'm getting vasectomied in a couple of months