Just when I thought my stalker drama was coming to an end .... (PICS)

[Madrone]

I find some residual evidence of more mind blowing stuff he was up to while I was unaware.

I spent some time in the yard today - put up a temporary fence blocking off the back yard so my dog won't go back there after I've put down some weed killer. Where I affixed the fencing to the back corner of the house I saw 2 cigarette butts.










WTF? I pick them up and look and see they are VANTAGE cigarettes. Well, I've only ever met one person that's smoked Vantage, and that's my stalker. Okayyy.... I'm a little weirded out. He's been back to his home state of WY (he was a contractor here for awhile, his job has finally ended so he went home) for a little more than a week - so I know that they are at least a week old. I called his (other ex) girlfriend in WY (if you've followed this story you'll remember I found out he had a girlfriend for 5 years in WY - the last year of which he saw both of us - she found out about me and called me at work to find out who I was. We've become friends.) and told her what I'd found. She's also never met another human being that smokes Vantage cigarettes.

The first thing SHE asks me is if there are any windows near where the butts were. No... no windows. Then she says "OMG!! Where's your telephone box??" --- This guy is a telephony engineer. He has the special tools required to get into a telephone protector box, and he has the tools needed to tap into someone's phone conversations. Namely, a device that has alligator clips on the end that you connect to some posts inside the protector box - a device legitimately used for testing and troubleshooting phone line problems. The (other ex) girlfriend works for a large telephone company, and knows all the ins and outs - and knows that the stalker knows these things too, if not better than she does. So I go outside to look...

No ... nothing on the side of the house above the butts. But wait... they are on the ground at the very back (side) corner of the house. Let me look around the corner....




OMFG!! There it is! And wide fucking open! It's on the side of the house, right next to the stairs going up to the back door.

From standing on the stairs, right next to the protector you can look down and see the butts.




Anyone can open the very outer door of a telephone protector box as it only requires a flathead screwdriver. To get INSIDE the second door however, to the posts one must access to clip the alligator clip thingies to in order to sit and listen in on someone's conversation you need a special tool - a tool no "regular" person has. There's some special bolt or something in there holding it shut - and my bolt is MIA.




And here is the box w/ the supposed to be "bolted shut" door opened - the posts in question are on the left hand side.




So this sick motherfucker has been sitting outside my HOUSE with me INSIDE listening in on my phone conversations - and who knows how often or for how long!! I am completely flabbergasted. Stunned. Speechless. There are multiple times I remember weird shit going on with my phone line while I've been on the phone with other people... and now I guess I know why. I just can't fucking believe it. I feel like I'm stuck in some bullshit Lifetime movie with really bad actors and an unbelievable storyline.

I called the county sheriff - he was here for a long time today. He's also contacted the (other ex) girlfriend in WY.

I am in shock and disbelief.

x(

[Guava Jelly]

1. Jesus fucking christ

Can ya get a restraining order?

[Madrone]

13. Yeah -

They want me to take off work on Monday and go down to the courthouse to do just that.... and I'm supposed to write a statement tonight. Not sure if I'm up to that - it's going to be pages and pages and pages long - and I don't think I have the mental/emotional energy required to handle recounting everything that's happened over the last year +. There's a LOT of shit involved - all with intricate and extensive details. Oy.

[WolverineDG]

28. Do it

Even if all that happens is a feeling of empowerment, that you're in control of the situation. I work with victims of domestic violence. The folks you'll be talking to should be familiar with what you're going through & at least offer you some counseling. :)

:hug:

dg

[Guava Jelly]

29. Sounds like you could write a book with the crap this clown

has put you through.
If you need any venting feel free to pm .
And take care.

[Madrone]

36. A very long book.

Yeah, no kidding.

Thanks for the support!

[idgiehkt]

2. I am so sorry.

This is really terrifying. I don't know what to say because I really dont' have any experience with this but I hope the police do their job and keep you safe. This is so scary. God Bless.

[Ediacara]

3. I'm glad you called the sherrif

Good luck and stay safe. You might want to think about staying with friends for a few days if possible.

[Madrone]

14. He's a few states away -

So I'm good. I know what you're saying though - thanks.

[SeattleGirl]

4. Oh. My. God!!

That is so fucking scary and freaky. I don't even have the words. God, I hope this creep gets nailed.

[Fuzz]

5. Make friends with the sheriff

Hope everything works out for you. That's some scary shit right there.

[bridgit]

6. it is a sick, sad world; but it's good you've gone to the authorities...

:hug: they will paint them into a corner, snap a pic, and then put them away :thumbsup: do take care :hug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. Get a cell phone

He can't listen in on those calls.

[Madrone]

15. I have a cell phone, and a VOIP phone.

My family/friends in MI call me on the voip phone, and I use that primarily for long distance calls I place. Other people call my land line - so that's why he'd listen. There were many times he'd call me multiple times while I was on the phone and I wouldn't pick up. I suspect that those times he'd come and listen in -- he knew I was on the phone if it just rang and the answering machine didn't pick up, and I don't talk to many people often so it is not uncommon to have phone calls lasting a couple of hours when they do call. That would give him plenty of time to get to my house and "plug in"...

But yeah, I understand your point.

[LiberalHeart]

8. I know the feeling. I had a stalker many years ago and it was awful.

For a long time I had no idea who it was, then he left a couple of clues that revealed his identity and I was able to get the situation handled -- but I never did truly relax until I heard he had died a couple of years later. He was someone I never, ever would have suspected would do such a thing.

He used to break into my home when I would go out -- sometimes for no more than a few minutes, like running to the post office or carry-out. He'd be in the house and out, leaving evidence that he'd been there. It'd be something like turning on all the lamps or the water faucets. Once he emptied a shelving unit, turned it upside down, then replaced all the items, setting them on what would have been the underside of the shelves. Once I went outside to get my newspaper, and pieces of my carpeting were rolled up inside. I was a total wreck when this was going on but for reasons I can't explain even to myself, I refused to leave my home. He never harmed me; merely scared the bejesus out of me.

What you're going through is really sickening and frightening. I hope you'll do what I wouldn't when it happened to me: get the hell out of Dodge. At least till the law catches up with him.

[Madrone]

17. OMFG!

THAT is crazy! In your HOUSE? That's got to be worse than just right outside.

I've had multiple other incidences - tires slashed on 2 occasions (not sure, but suspect him), my dog's been poisoned twice - almost died the first time, happened again 2 days later after the dog's recovery but I found the bait first (I am as positive that I can be without having seen it with my own eyes that he did that - lots of circumstantial evidence points 100% to him), calling me over and over again, calling me at work, driving by my house, following me, showing up drunk where I'm at, driving by my ex's (still friend's) house numerous times, and on and on and on. It's NUTS.


Dog bait:

[LiberalHeart]

32. The scariest thing the stalker did was...

...wrap a belt around the hanger bar in my closet. It was coiled around it in a way that caused it -- when I opened the closet door -- to spring out at me like an attacking snake. I nearly messed my panties that time.

Another time he unbuttoned all the blouses in my closet (I always button the top button when I hang up a blouse).

Oh, and by the way, there was never any sign of how he entered my home. No breaking and entering. And my doors were always locked. Windows likewise.

His three mistakes: he wrote me a letter and, though I didn't know what his handwriting looked like, others did. So once I picked up on mistake number two, I went to two people who knew him and asked if they recognized the writing. It was a unique and both recognized it immediately (one named the author before I had turned the paper writing-side up ... the sun was shining through the paper as I was unfolding it and he recognized the writing backwards, as it became visible through the back side of the paper). That second mistake he made was that he mentioned in a really sick, threatening letter he sent me that I hadn't returned his calls. I had my own business and had an answering service with real live people taking my calls. I had the service search back over the previous three or four months and photocopy all the messages they had taken for me. There was only one person whose calls I hadn't returned: his. The reason I hadn't returned the calls was because he was a builder and showed me plans for a house he was building. On the blueprints, one room was labeled as belonging to ME. Freaked me out.

His third mistake was putting something in my car (yeah, he'd get into my attached garage, too). I had no clue what it was but took it around to stores asking if clerks had ever sold anything like it. I finally got it identified as a sticky/putty type of material that builders use on the bottom of cheap stainless steel sinks to deaden the sound when water runs in the sink. He had put that stuff on the passenger seat in my car. I knew only one builder. I then used his handwritten letter as a comparison when examining the building permits he had taken out with the county. A very obvious match.

I took the evidence to the county prosecutor, told him I didn't want to prosecute (on advice of a shrink who looked over the letter and a log of the incidents, and told me the guy would get off on being involved with me in a legal case, it would feed his need to be connected to me even though it was in a negative way), but I told him I did want to do *something*. The prosecutor said he could send the county sheriff out to talk to him, letting him know he was dealing with them, not me, but when I ran that by the shrink, he said nope, it'd be better to get him steered toward some sort of intervention, medically. The guy came from some serious money and was living on a trust fund (he never sold the houses he built; he became too attached to them and couldn't bear to part with them). In the end, the prosecutor contacted the guy's lawyer -- who doled out his trust fund dollars -- and he, looking out for the best interests of the old-money family he represented, did intervene. He told me he would not release another dollar to the guy until he voluntarily sought in-patient treatment, which he did. I never had another problem with him after that.

I later learned that he'd had an illness not long before all this behavior started. It caused inflammation of the brain which was the likely cause of his going so nutty. I'd known him for years and always knew he was unusual, but never thought he'd go off the deep end like that.

[Haole Girl]

9. THAT is scary!

Please be careful. Can you get a protective order, too? Did you look into that? I hate to think like a Texan, but do you have protection (if you know what I mean). It never hurts to know how to defend oneself, you know. Of course, I don't know what the laws are in your state.

[Madrone]

19. I have protection.

I am the daughter of a union democrat that at one time owned his own gun shop. ;)

[Haole Girl]

23. Good

:thumbsup:

[reyd reid reed]

10. Oh. Shit.

Do whatever you have to do to be safe. He's gone back to WY? You're absolutely positive?

Is there any way you can move? Honestly, that's the only thing I can think of...a restraining order is just a piece of paper and it isn't going to stop this guy if he's determined.


:hug:

Stay safe.

[Madrone]

20. I am absolutely positive he's in WY.

That's one reason I haven't blocked his phone number - caller id lets me know he's calling from his house phone. If it changes to the cell phone - I'll pay attention.

I guess I could move (although the landlord wouldn't like it and I can't afford it either) - but I live in a tiny town. He could easily find me if he showed back up here. I have a very distinct car, and he knows where I work. In fact, that's where he contracted - at my company.

[lizziegrace]

30. With VOIP phones through your cable modem

you can keep your phone number and live ANYWHERE. I kept my Columbus number when I moved out of town.

Please be careful. Don't assume anything.

[Suich]

11. I'd be checking in with the sheriff every day!

I don't know the back story on this guy but it sounds like he doesn't have all his oars in the water. Please be careful and keep us updated.

Stay safe... :hug:

[tinfoil tiaras]

12. Holy fucking Jesus H Christ

get a restraining order. Pronto.

scary ass stalkers are dangerous and shouldn't be tolerated for much longer.

[Blue-Jay]

16. What the?!?!

Get off DU. Call the cops.

[Madrone]

21. Cops have been called earlier today.

They spent a lot of time talking to me - and took the butts as "evidence".

[Blue-Jay]

27. OK then. I certainly hope you stay safe.

Scary stuff.

[flvegan]

18. Next time you dial out, you call ME.

'Nuff said. Tell "Miss Shun Impossible" that he needs to talk to me.

[Madrone]

22. LOL - thanks.

Thankfully he's far away at the moment.

[flvegan]

24. Good, cuz

punting his ass through the uprights would be a crowning moment for me. Just sayin...

[GOPisEvil]

25. What the fuck is it with these psycho losers?

This guy needs to be locked up. Stat!

No one deserves this crap. :pals:

[graywarrior]

26. Oh man, that just sucks sucks sucks.

[Zomby Woof]

31. You need a fresh start

Pack up, and start over somewhere else. I do not know how you have managed with all of this all this time. :-(

You told me last night I have great power of suggestion. So please, think about a fresh start. Sick fucks like this won't be stopped by restraining orders and other niceties.


:hug: Hang in there, Madrone! You've got lots of friends who care for you, and are concerned for your safety!

[Madrone]

33. Just talked to the "other ex" gf....

She broke her self-imposed no contact rule to call him and make sure he IS still at home and hasn't totally lost it and headed here. I sent him the pictures posted above earlier today in an email stating that he's gone too far and has committed a federal offense. Told him DO NOT CALL ME under any circumstances and that if he showed up in town he'd be arrested. She wanted to make sure he hadn't gone off the deep end and started driving here...

She told him that he is going down - he's busted, everyone knows what he's done and he can't deny it due to the cigarettes. She told him he has some choices - and what did he want her to do? Did he want her to call his sister in Minnesota? He said yes... so she did.

She told the sister EVERYTHING and told her that he needs serious help. Neither the other woman nor I can help him - so the sister needs to do something. Come get him, institutionalize him - something.



AND - while I was in the middle of typing this 2 sheriffs knocked on my door. One of them was the guy that came and took the report when I found the baited meat in my yard. They were just stopping by to make sure everything was okay - and I didn't have anything going on.

Whew. High drama, HIGH DRAMA.

[hotforteacher]

35. You want I should get the Pink Mafia activated, Madrone?

Those are some scary beans. Glad that the cops are genuinely concerned.

[lildreamer316]

51. Bless them for being on the ball (the sheriffs).

That's very smart of them. They will probably keep checking on you at intervals.
They don't want this crap on their heads if something were to go down.
I'm glad they are taking such good care of you.

[BarenakedLady]

34. Freaky.

That is some scary shit. Take care of yourself.

:hug:

[Whoa_Nelly]

37. OMG! Seems you've done about all you can at this point

Is the phone company coming out to repair the invasion to your phone box? Did the cops take prints off the box? Is there something the phone company can do to either make sure he can't just get into the box again, or set it up to have a signal sent to the company if it's tampered with again? Maybe you could put one of those small battery operated sound alarms inside the box.

Sure hope he stays away. Do the cops where you are think it's necssary to contact the police where he lives about him? Will he be informed of the restraining order, be served with papers once you receive it? You may have to contact the county courthouse where he lives in order to have home be served.

Stay safe, and report in here often to let us know you are still OK. :hug:

on edit:
So glad you took pics of all that today! Good thinking! more :hug: :hug:

[Madrone]

38. Answers-

I happen to work at the phone company - (the same company that contracted this dude in here) so I plan on going to have a talk with the owners on Monday. Not sure that they'll do anything or care at this point now that the guy is gone, but I'll show them the pictures I have, and I'll talk to one of the outside plant guys and get them to swing by and replace my bolt.

As for making sure he can't access it again - no. There are certain tools needed to access any box - but because this guy IS a phone guy he's got any and all of them he may need.

The cop got information from the "other ex" today about what police station she went to in WY and who she talked to when she was there. I suspect they will be contacting the Casper police department, if they haven't already. The "other ex" found out before he went back to WY that he is not allowed to own firearms (she did a little snooping at his apartment before he returned) - and both she AND I have purchased firearms for him - a couple of shotguns from me and some handguns from her. That's what he'd ask for for Christmas and birthdays - well now we know why. The cops are aware of this fact, and have asked us both to see if we can recover the serial numbers on the guns. I think this is why they are taking me seriously - even though he's no longer here and there's no real "proof" he's done the things I said - it's going above and beyond just "one" little incident no one's sure about. Dude also hasn't had a driver's license in over 5 years thanks to multiple DUIs. I think the more I talked and the more I told about what I know the more they started paying attention. I think at first they were like "Hey Joe, some bimbo called saying some guy's been hanging out outside her house tapping her phone. Bwahahaha! We drew straws and you're the poor sucker that gets to deal with THIS nutball. Bwahahaa! Don't forget your tinfoil hat!" :D

Any restraining order will be sent to the local WY police department and he would be served from them.

[Whoa_Nelly]

39. Yes, as you said...High Drama

So intense.... :hug:

Thanks for keeping us in the loop...it means you are OK still :hi:

[LiberalHeart]

41. When I placed multiple police calls about my stalker...

...one of the cops who came out actually said to me, "I think you just like having guys in uniform around."

[Madrone]

43. OMG.

I'll add that one to the huge list I have entitled "Why I Hate Cops".

[ThomCat]

40. I hope you can nail this sick bastard.

And I hope you're okay.

[susanna]

42. 1) your stalker wants you to know they've been there.

2) yes, I have had a stalker myself.
3) you are correct; it's like a bad Lifetime movie. I said as much to myself when I went through it.
4) take care of you...these people are straight-up poison, no doubt about it.

Hugs, friend. Stay safe.

P.S.: good for you in photographing the evidence; keep up with that. You just may need it...

[u4ic]

44. What a sick fuck

I hope the cops are able to do something for you...please stay safe. :hug:

[Robeson]

45. You should think about getting this type of an alarm system...

... http://www.alarm.com/ It's wireless, and can monitor areas all around your house. If he cut the phone lines, it would still work. Go to the site and check it out. Also, make sure the local police are well aware of what's going on.

[NC_Nurse]

46. Man, that is just awful!

Sounds like you and his other ex are doing all the right things.
What a psycho! :scared:

[buddhamama]

47. speaking from experience

you need to move and start over some place else. I am serious. Please, be careful. :hug:

[WilliamPitt]

48. Friends with shotguns

and lots of coffee.

Until this asshole is in jail.

I'm available if you need someone to stand with you.

[flamingyouth]

49. OMG this is just chilling.

I am so sorry for you. I don't even know what else to say, except to offer a hug. :hug:

[lildreamer316]

50. OH MY GOD.

I am SO sorry you are having to go through this!!
I hope they get that sorry bastard,and soon.
Please please stay safe.

[IChing]

52. Crap, I hope they nail him soon

The stalker is also on drugs or alcohol I would expect by looking at the evidence and the sloppy work he did.
I