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Mon Dec-22-03 10:40 PM
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he is amazing. over 300 yards and 4 TD's in the 1st half, and his dad passed yesterday.
he da man!
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Tue Dec-23-03 10:12 AM
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45. I admire Favre. I think it is very theraputic (sp) for him to play |
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But I hate to say (about to be flamed) that the "performance" from the Raiders last night was unbelievably bad. Favre threw up a couple of balls into double and triple coverage and his receivers came down with the catches. While the receivers made wonderful adjustments, I couldn't help noticing that the Raider db's didn't seem to put up much effort. His first touchdown throw was fabulous, but he made some throws last night that he couldn't get away with against a team who hadn't cashed in the season.
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Tue Dec-23-03 10:56 AM
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For about 3 hours, Favre's Dad was not dead, but was watching just like he did a million times before.
I hate Brett Favre, but am glad that he was able to perform as well as he did despite the loss of his father. I'm sure that game was dedicated to his fathers dedication to him.
It's a good story.
Cheers Drifter
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Mon Dec-22-03 10:44 PM
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2. The team is obviously stepping up for him.. |
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Its called teamwork, and not being at each other's throats.
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Mon Dec-22-03 11:13 PM
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7. It's more than teamwork |
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Edited on Mon Dec-22-03 11:18 PM by LiberalFighter
Offense and Defense are playing for Favre. The receivers are making the extra effort with moves that give them the extra yardage. The Line is giving Favre time. The Defense is pressing and attacking.
Geesh... who was that? Green or Davenport?? It looked like the whole Oakland offense was on him and he was still making forward progress.
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Mon Dec-22-03 10:44 PM
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"...We will, we will, rock you!" :-)
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Mon Dec-22-03 10:47 PM
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4. What a memorable performance |
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That's a half of Monday night football none of us fans will ever forget. Unbelievable, under any circumstances; indescribable, given what has happened to him.
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Mon Dec-22-03 10:56 PM
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5. Hooooooooolllllly shit? |
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He's playing against Oakland for cryin' out loud! My grandma could beat them!
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Mon Dec-22-03 11:05 PM
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I'm ashamed to call the Raiders "my team"... They're sucking SOOOO badly this season its not even funny. :eyes:
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Mon Dec-22-03 11:28 PM
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Mon Dec-22-03 11:23 PM
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8. This one's for you, dad. |
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He didn't actually have to say it; just let his play speak for him.
Here's to the future hall of famer. :toast:
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:07 AM
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Pack has the ball again.
They keep showing Al Davis, owner of the Raiders, he don't look too happy. :-)
3:06 left in the game, 41-7.
Oakland getting smushed! :D
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:21 AM
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:22 AM
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:23 AM by Blade
the Peckers beat a much more inferior team compared to them. They deserve a parade! <sarcasm>
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:27 AM
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:28 AM
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you know I'm right. Admit it now! :P
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Tue Dec-23-03 03:57 AM
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:21 AM
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The man is something else.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:27 AM
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My condolences to him and his family. He used this game to honor his Father!!! Great Job Brett!!!
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:29 AM
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17. I think the rest of the season is Irv's |
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:32 AM
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Bears Fan here living in Northern Wisconsin and as someone who has hated Favre(In the football sense of the use of the word hate)forever my heart did go out to him and even I wanted the Packers win tonight.
P.S. After tonight the gloves are back on and after further review I still hate em and hope they lose every game here after til the end of time.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:39 AM
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19. I hate the packers... |
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they're way overrated, especially Favre. My heart goes out to him for his loss, but as far as football is concerned, I can't stand the sight of him. I didn't even want them to win tonight.
Anyone who thinks they were awesome tonight is on something. They played Oakland for cryin' out loud! How hard is it to beat Oakland? (As a Vikings fan, please don't answer that one. :P)
Vikings will beat Arizona next week and clinch the division championship. Booyah!
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Tue Dec-23-03 03:59 AM
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25. Speaking of being "on something" ... |
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"Favre is overrated." Umm. What are you on?
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:12 AM
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29. He is WAY overrated.... |
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I don't know why you would think they are some good team just because they beat one shitty team.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:25 AM
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I never said the Packers were a good team, though I'd say that of any team with a winning record. Still, they are not great this year. However, Favre is one of the top five QBs of all time. He is not overrated. Period.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:27 AM
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33. Nah...he's not the top five...maybe the top 20.... |
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:30 AM
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34. Well, you are certainly on the sour grapes parade tonight. |
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Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 04:31 AM by HuckleB
Anyone who has watched this guy carry an offense with a consistent dearth of talent compared to the results over the years knows that Favre is at least in the top five of all time.
It's also time for you to give it a rest. This is one game, one performance, one night when you should have left your sour grapes elsewhere. They are wholly inappropriate.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:34 AM
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are totally appropriate. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean you can say my opinion of the World's Most Overrated Quarterback is wrong. That's inappropriate.
If he was so great, his team wouldn't be behind one of the worst football teams in NFL history in the Central Division, would he?
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:38 AM
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The difference between the Packers and the Detroit Lions comes down to Brett Favre. He has carried this team on his back for years. The number of wins and playoff appearances that the Packers would have made without him the past decade or so dwindles tremendously. I think you know that. I think that's why you continue to goad me. Well, whatever.
Further, that you don't understand why your sour grapes are inappropriate on this occasion shows why you're willing to spit them out at the rest of us. Again I say, whatever.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:42 AM
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39. Yeah, his dad died... |
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but I'm not talking about just tonight. I'm talking about his whole football career. There are/wer far better quarterback than Favre. I don't even see how Favre can be compared to the likes of Marino, Elway, Montana, Bradshaw, Namath, Bob Griese, Tarkenton, etc....
But, like you said, whatever.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:46 AM
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40. You haven't been watching, have you? |
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Elway couldn't do half of what Favre does. He had to have serious talent around him. Tha same goes for the rest of the crew you named. None of them lifted the level of play of their teams as much as Favre has. Not one. Keep talking off the top of your head, if you want, but you and I both know you're just playing games for the sake of it.
Whatever indeed.
Goodnight.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:49 AM
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to each his own, eh?
Goodnight.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:22 PM
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51. Are you kidding? Elway brought 3 sub-par teams to the SB and 2 great ones |
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Elway couldn't do half of what Favre does. He had to have serious talent around him.
All evidence points to the contrary. Oh, and Elway beat Farve head-to-head in the Super Bowl.
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Tue Dec-23-03 10:07 AM
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44. You forgot Aikman and Staubach |
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by the way, I don't like the Pack either. But Favre has had a hell of a career.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:38 AM
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36. Let's call a truce... |
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before this gets ugly, ok? :thumbsup:
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:39 AM
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Whatever. I don't get ugly.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:55 AM
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Tue Dec-23-03 01:01 AM
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He shouldn't have played tonight, due to his father's death? I admired the game, especially his performance, but a part of me feels he should have been with his family, and that the pressure on Favre to be a superhero clouded his judgment.
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Tue Dec-23-03 02:02 AM
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Its an individual choice that each person in a family must make. His father was his coach and his role model. He deserves the right to grieve in his own way-not mine, nor yours, but his...
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Tue Dec-23-03 02:49 AM
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I love Brett Favre, and my intention here was not to question his right to grieve in any way he chooses. I send him and his family the most sincere condolences, as we all do.
The point I'm trying to raise - I'm sure few of us would go to work the day after a parent died. Those who do have every right to do so, as you point out, but I believe most people would take some time off.
Brett Favre is one of the greatest football players of all time. An important part of being an elite athlete is a sense that you always have to "play through the pain". Usually, this involves physical injuries, but in this case, it involved a much different and more serious type of pain.
My question would be "why is it so important to play through the pain?" Most of us do not see the long-term physical effects of this attitude on our sports heroes, because once they retire we lose touch with them. Just as one example, we don't see the ex-football player who can't walk at the age of 45 because his knees, hips, and ankles are shot.
I don't claim to know that something like this is operating here with BF. I'm not even sure how I feel about it. That's why I posted what I did, in the hopes that people on this site can help me deepen my thoughts, as well as challenge them if necessary
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:08 AM
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28. You're missing something |
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Brett Favre is consumed by football. I can understand his desire to play perfectly, he channeled his grief positively and it allowed him to step his game up that little extra notch. Playing allowed him to block out thoughts of anything other than his job. When my Grandfather died I needed to do something to take my mind off it so I went testing with my racecar. It might sound weird, but it's the most stress relieving thing I know, just as football is for Favre, racing is for me.
We each react differently to bereavement, but I would have done the same thing in his position and I applaud him.
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Tue Dec-23-03 09:49 AM
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42. Thanks for the insight |
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:01 AM
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26. His family wanted him to play. |
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They encouraged him to play from the get go. His wife was clearly on the phone to relatives throughout the game. This was part of the early grieving process for all of them.
Never tell others how to grieve.
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Tue Dec-23-03 09:55 AM
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43. I didn't know this when I posted my original message |
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It makes a big difference that his family wanted him to play.
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Tue Dec-23-03 11:48 AM
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49. No, I think he really did what was right for him. He consulted |
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with his family and made a decision. What good can one do...when a person is gone? Play for his memory.
:hi:
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:04 AM
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27. It was a thing of beauty. |
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Yeah, the Raiders are down and out, but they played well last week, and anyone who knows the NFL knows that the difference between teams is ever so slight, regardless. This was a performance for the ages. Period. The Packers are no powerhouse this year, though they played like one tonight.
Good on Favre and his teammates. May he and his family find peace in the coming weeks, months and years.
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:12 AM
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30. It's not hard to play like a powerhouse... |
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when you're up against one of the shittiest teams in the nfl!
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Tue Dec-23-03 04:26 AM
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You don't watch much football, do you? Performances like that don't happen very often, regardless of the opponent.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:13 PM
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50. he's a Vikings fan I think |
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so no, he doesn't get to watch too much professional football.
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Tue Dec-23-03 11:20 AM
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47. Brett Favre is the MAN!!! |
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Yes, they were playing the Raiders. Yes, the Packers are quite possibly overrated. BUT, that was the best half of football I have ever seen. 15 of 18 for 311 yards and 4 tds. That is a great game for most of the starting qbs in the league, and he did it in 30 minutes! And to do that a day after his father died is just incredible.
Viking and Bears fans can piss and moan all they want, but Brett Favre is not only a first-ballot Hall of Famer, he is quite possibly the best QB of all time. He is better than Aikman, better than Staubach, better than Tarkenton and FAR better than any QB the Bears ever had. There are only a small handfull of QBs who are even on the same PLANET as Favre (Marino, Elway and Graham come to mind).
Last night will go down as one of the gutsiest performances in all of sport history. (Think Kirk Gibson and Willis Reed.)
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Tue Dec-23-03 11:36 AM
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48. 399 Yards, 4 TD, 0 INT. 41-7 win. |
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Impressive under normal circumstances.
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Tue Dec-23-03 12:28 PM
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52. I went to college wif Brett. |
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at the University of Southern Mississippi. I didn't know him but I saw him on campus all the time. He liked to drink, dance and hang out at this one C/W bar on Hwy15 that was very popular in Hattiesburg. He always seemed pretty down to earth to me for a good ol boy.
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