NNadir
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Mon Oct-16-06 08:04 PM
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OK, I'm a Mets fan and like all Mets fans, I'm thrilled with Carlos Delgado's playing in the post season. The man is doing a classic "Mr. October."
But let's not forget that Carlos Delgado originally refused to become a Met. Why? Because when recruiting him as a free agent, the Mets sent an executive to speak to him. Trying to curry favor the executive deigned to speak to Delgado in "street" Spanish, which Delgado - who is as proud of his intellect as his atheletic abilities found condescending.
Carlos Delgado has long been an activist against the US Navy's indiscrimate use of the Puerto Rican island of Vieques as a bombing range. More recently he refused to stand for the singing of "God Bless America" to protest the Iraq war. (As part of the contract with the Mets he agreed to stand - but his point was made.)
His teammates, all of whom are fond of him and respect him, report that his favorite topic of conversation is politics and he's not talking about tax cuts for people as rich as he is.
Delgado has said that his baseball idol is Roberto Clemente, also an activist, who was killed in an air crash bringing supplies to earthquake ravaged Nicaurgua.
I know some people don't like the Mets like I do, but there could be no finer person to rise to prominence in national sports than our first baseman.
Let's go Mets!!!!
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Mon Oct-16-06 08:44 PM
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1. He sounds like a good guy |
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I might have to start paying attention to the NLCS now.
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Mon Oct-16-06 08:49 PM
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2. He is a very impressive man. |
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I'd settle for him making a few more outs though. :)
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Mon Oct-16-06 08:50 PM
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3. Mets vs. Tigers...I've said it all along... |
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Everyone loves Delgado! :)
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Mon Oct-16-06 09:56 PM
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4. Of course, we merely aspire to what you've achieved. |
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Everybody has to be impressed with the Tigers. They had some rough times, but they never quit.
It will be an honor to meet you in the series.
Congrats on a fine season, no matter what happens in the series.
I hate to remind you of this, but the last time you guys won a series and the President called, Sparky Anderson obliged Reagan by giving him effusive praise and saying something along the lines of, "Now all that we need is for you to win."
It pissed me off.
It sucked. It made me wish that San Diego had kicked the Tigers ass.
It wasn't quite as bad as what FOX did after the Red Sox won the series, cutting to the "international" coalition fighting in "Operation Iraqi Freedom" (or what ever they were calling the war for Halliburton at that time - they have so many slogans) but somehow Anderson's Reagan praise stuck in my mind for the last 22 years.
Anyway, good luck. I'm sure we'll meet. It seems that El Duque will be back too.
Of course, I wouldn't object if Delgado uses the same spotlight to trash the war, but FOX will probably cut the feed.
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:23 PM
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5. Congrats to your Tigers, BUT |
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why the *#*%*% couldn't Kenny Rogers pitch like that for the Mets in 1999?
When he walked in the winning run in Game 6 of the NLCS, that was one of my worst moments as a Mets fan.
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:55 PM
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10. Yeah that was one of my worst days ever! |
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I still can remember it so vividly. I went upstairs to my room because the game was so tense and I needed to concentrate in private. I started off sitting on the edge of my bed and by the time they brought Rogers into the game (I knew we were going to lose) I was on my knees in front of the tv. When he walked in that run, I guess I lost control of my emotions and sobbed for a good 20 minutes. That was one of the most exciting post season series I ever watched...and the excitement from the grand slam single to the crushing defeat of that walk was just too much to handle. Although I still blame Benitez and John Franco for blowing that game
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:34 PM
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:shrug:
Mets still got to get there.
And oh yeah, I do love Delgado! :evilgrin:
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:01 PM
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Tue Oct-17-06 03:23 PM
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Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 03:23 PM by bigwillq
Who Magglio? Or Delgado?
No I have not seen either.
A boy can hope though. :evilgrin:
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:43 PM
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Anybody know what the weather's doing out St.L way? Are we gonna have baseball tonight?
:hi: and pardon the interruption.
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:47 PM
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:56 PM
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11. Yes Carlos is one of the good guys |
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one of the few baseball players that isn't an all out Freeper...it's refreshing...that and he's been hitting the cover off of the ball lately and that's a good thing too
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Tue Oct-17-06 01:59 PM
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12. He is a definite liberal. |
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A great player and a great guy.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:05 PM
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14. Rise to prominence...? |
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Forget we that Faux Sprots is bringing the games to the unwashed masses? :shrug:
If Faux mentioned Delgado's liberalism at all, it'd be with a passing smirk.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:07 PM
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15. Did you see Steve Lyons got canned? |
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It only took him saying he needed to watch his wallet after Lou Piniella demonstrated his Spanish-speaking ability.
After, of course, ripping on the blind guy during the Mets-Dodgers series.
Typical Fox.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:41 PM
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20. They didn't know the blind guy was blind |
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I thought he was using some sort of virtual-reality thing. :shrug:
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:45 PM
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22. I know they didn't know. |
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But if you were watching and you recognized the device for what it was, it would seem a tad ignorant and insensitive, no?
We didn't like it when Bush chastised the blind reporter for not taking off his shades. He didn't know that guy was blind either.
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Tue Oct-17-06 03:04 PM
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25. In both cases, I'd allow the benefit of the doubt |
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We shouldn't expect others to know what we know, especially if it's something unusual or unexpected.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:12 PM
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16. but you could bet your bottom dollar... |
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that if he liked playing video games or collecting baseball cards they would mention that. Fox's little "tidbits" about the players they flash up with their stats really annoys me. I don't know why but them telling me Scott Spezio is in a garage band or Paul Lo Duca owns dogs irks me...I guess it's because they are unable to say anything relevant about baseball. I still think that baseball should let the team's local station broadcast the playoff games in their home market. While I'm fairly certain that Keith Hernandez is hitting the sauce during the game his commentary along with Ron Darling's and Gary Cohen's is not only informative (about BASEBALL!) it is also entertaining...Faux could learn a few things from them
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:15 PM
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17. Like its the Little League WS |
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Shawn Green's fave bedtime story is Curious George
Beltran lives next door to Chi Chi Rodriguez
Scott Spiezio's band's name is Sandfrog
PLD owns two yorkies
Sad that I absorbed all that.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:21 PM
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I still don't know who they are pandering to with all that crap. Fans of the team and baseball in general don't care what Shawn Green's favorite book is, they want analysis of the game...and wouldn't non-fans be better served if the announcers actually tried to teach them about the game? These facts help no one!
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:24 PM
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19. Eh, McCarver and Buck are such tools |
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They said getting hit by a pitch was part of David Eckstein's 'arsenal'.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:59 PM
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Some guys are really good at getting hit when their club needs a baserunner. Ron Hunt led the league in getting hit from 1968-74, including 50 times in '71, the all-time single-season record. Craig Biggio has been hit 282 times, the all-time record.
"Arsenal" is kind of a strange word to use for that, though. I might've said it's one of his tools.
I just checked. Eckstein led the AL in getting hit in 2001 (21) and 2002 (27).
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Tue Oct-17-06 04:33 PM
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31. I'm not saying Eckstein isn't a playmaker or a catalyst |
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But they were acting like 'he can beat you in so many ways'. And for what its worth, the Cards were down by 7 runs when that happened. But I do see what you're saying.
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Tue Oct-17-06 04:47 PM
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32. That's McWhorever's favorite line, isn't it? |
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I swear, I think they're about to come when they talk about Jose Reyes. :eyes:
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Tue Oct-17-06 04:53 PM
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Leave Jose Reyes alone!
Kidding. I think baseball broadcasts would be better if they ditched the color-man and just stuck with a play-by-play and occasional "great play!" or somesuch.
Actually, all sports broadcasts would be benefit, now that I think of it.
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Tue Oct-17-06 05:30 PM
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34. I think they'd be best |
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if they ditched announcers altogether and just used pertinent graphics — inning, line score, who's batting, his stats, etc.
It'd be way cooler to hear just the sounds of the game. :thumbsup:
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:43 PM
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21. It's because casual fans watch post-season games |
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Announcers try to capture their attention with bits o' tid like that because baseball alone isn't enough for 'em. :eyes:
Faux does more to ruin baseball than a strike or anything else ever did.
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Tue Oct-17-06 02:52 PM
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23. oh and all their friggen camera angles!!! |
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Why the hell do we need a dirt cam? and they do 46 replays all at different angles so that we are missing what is happening on the game live...there is such a thing as too much technology!
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Tue Oct-17-06 03:19 PM
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I've hated the dirt cam since they started it — and it wasn't Faux that started it. (I forget who it was, but it wasn't them.) It adds nothing, and I wonder how it can get a picture and still be guaranteed not to interfere with a batted ball. It's gotta be stickin' out a little, wouldn't you think?
Somebody made a real nice catch in left field a couple nights ago, and they showed replays from five different angles. Heebus, the JFK assassination got less scrutiny!
But the one that really pisses me off is the blimp cam. I haven't seen that during the post-season yet, so maybe they can do it only in certain cities or something — like LA; they do it every time they show a Dodgers game at home. I've got to wonder what freaking idiot came up with it, since I've never heard a baseball fan say, "Gee, I wish I had one of those really neat seats directly over the stadium, about 500 feet up."
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Tue Oct-17-06 03:40 PM
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28. You've got that right. |
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Tue Oct-17-06 03:48 PM
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29. If the Mets prevail, Carlos won't be speaking only through the FOX filter. |
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His playing - which has been outstanding - will be a big topic of conversation outside the borders of Fox if the Mets go all the way. If the Mets lose - and with their ripped up pitching they could - Carlos may get less attention.
He'll be the toast of an important media city if the Mets win. This man is very articulate, very bright, and very opinionated in a way we all appreciate.
No disrepect to the Cardinals or the Tigers, but there is a definite win for the political left in the Mets winning.
Go Mets!!!!
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Tue Oct-17-06 04:12 PM
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My point was that it's only through the Faux broadcasts that his opinions will be delivered to the masses. I can't see him being featured in anything larger than Sports Illustrated, which for all its circulation still caters to a niche audience.
Although I suppose "60 Minutes" might do a piece on him. What the hell, they've done Tiger Woods 56 times. :eyes:
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