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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:08 PM
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"The kids in my history class are unbelievably stupid!"
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 02:53 PM by crim son
my daughter's best friend just said to me. "What do you mean?" said I. "We were discussing smallpox and somebody raised their hand and asked if there was also a 'large'pox!"

Damn. That is stupid.

On edit: qnr said there may actually have been a largepox. Guess what? He's right! I googled it and found that largepox describes the large facial lesions associated with syphillis!

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:09 PM
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1. Are we talking Kindergarten or High School?
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:12 PM
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2. Tenth grade.
Alarming, no?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:15 PM
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3. Fuck me gently with a chainsaw!
Yes, alarming indeed.

But not as dumb as one of my cousins classmates thinking that Vietnam was part of China.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:20 PM
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4. Yeah, well... geography!
Nobody gives a shit about that! :P
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:23 PM
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5. Tho I gotta admit
I always fail the "which is on the left, which is on the right?" question when it comes to Iran/Iraq, no matter how many times I try to memorize it...
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:55 PM
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23. I-raq, I-ran all the way to Afghanistan, Pakistan, then India!
It helps when you sing it in a silly tune. :)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:57 PM
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25. It varies :) depends upon how far around the globe you go! n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:05 PM
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32. I'm lobbying to re-name them Babylon and Persia.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:59 PM
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30. LOL! I've never heard anyone but me use that expression.
:rofl:

It's awesome to see someone else use it. :applause:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:40 PM
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35. Gotta Love Heathers!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:44 PM
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36. Is that where it came from originally?
Wow. I saw that movie once when it first came out. It's amazing that I picked up a line from there.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:26 PM
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46. Weeellllll...before the French came along and created "French Indochina",
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 11:27 PM by Aristus
the region was divided into three areas, (from North to South), Tonkin, Annam, and Cochin China. Plus the people we think of as "Vietnamese" are, by and large, ethnically Chinese. The native peoples of Vietnam are indigenous mountain tribes known collectively as Montagnards. Ethnically speaking, they differ significantly from the "Vietnamese" we think of.

Although I don't think these facts are the source of your cousin's classmate's confusion, it is understandable.
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NewWaveChick1981 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:23 PM
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6. OMG, that deserves a Dumbass Award...
:yoiks: :rofl:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:28 PM
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7. Dupe; delete..
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 02:29 PM by crim son
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:28 PM
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8. No kidding.
Subjects like Math, English, Writing and Science have "accelerated" classes which aren't populated with fools. History though, it's one size fits all. :eyes:
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:33 PM
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9. I once met two 19 year old girls at college
(And this was a decent college, mind you...not Harvard or anything, but a well-respected state school) who had no idea who had won the Civil War.

They knew "it was the side that was against slavery", but they didn't know whether that was the North or the South.

Seeing as we no longer live in a meritocracy, it shouldn't come as a surprise that our citizens just keep getting dumber and dumber. After all, what's the point? Intelligence and aptitude don't get you anywhere in a society based on nepotism and cronyism.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:36 PM
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10. You've got that right.
In fact, if you have half a brain you run the risk of being labelled an intellectual. That just might get you 'disappeared' these days.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:40 PM
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11. I think I got you beat...
College anthropology...somehow we were talking about the Civil War when a girl raised her hand and seriously asked this question "isn't that when we first used the atomic bomb?" When the rest of the class was finished laughing at her she sheepishly replied that "history isn't her subject"...Gee ya think? I'm not one to laugh in someone's face, but sometimes it's just necessary, and if you could see the look on the professor's face, it was priceless.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:49 PM
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14. They do say that some kids graduate from HS
and are yet unable to read. Apparently.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:42 PM
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12. Hmmm, it does seem a little stupid. However, it's not like smallpox is
something that is commonly discussed these days, after the supposed 'eradication.' I can see that being asked by someone that was generally curious, if uniformed. If I remember, it was named by the size of the pocks, which could imply that there was one named for larger pocks.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:48 PM
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13. So, it was your daughter who asked the question?
Sorry, couldn't resist. I don't know, my friend. My daughter is intelligent but not a history buff by any means, and she knew the question was foolish. But now you have me curious. I'm going to google largepox, because I am the curious type.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:49 PM
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15. heheh nah, no kids, but I can see myself asking that, just out of
curiousity -- in case I had just never heard of it.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:52 PM
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17. Oh my. There IS a largepox!
Apparently it's the large lesions on the face from syphillis! I'm going to have to amend my OP if it's not too late. I bow to your superior wisdom, qnr!
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:55 PM
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21. Heck, I didn't know, I was just extrapolating :) - and I commend your
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 02:55 PM by qnr
daughter on being aware enough to notice, I don't think a lot of people would have even cared.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:57 PM
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26. Yeah, but
I'm still impressed :)
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:51 PM
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16. I had classmates blame Iran-contra on Carter!
They tried to argue it with me. I pulled out the book and read to them...
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:55 PM
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22. Was this recently?
Because it really doesn't surprise me!
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:57 PM
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27. two years ago...
of course, they were see-no-evil republicans.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:58 PM
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28. Of course. n/t
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:52 PM
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18. well, is there also a 'large pox'?
enquiring minds want to know... :eyes:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:54 PM
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20. Yes! Check out the OP! n/t
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Rosie1223 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:53 PM
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19. And you're from one of the 'smart' states
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:56 PM
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24. #5 and proud of it!
But, there is in fact a largepox. So who's the stupid one now? Wait! Don't answer that.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:58 PM
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29. hmmm, I sure do seem to be getting involved in a lot of syphilis threads
today....
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 02:59 PM
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31. In tenth grade, my friend answered on a test that Tito (Yugoslavian leader
was a member of the Jackson Five.

The teacher then read the answer out loud, noting, "Leon, the Tito we are referring to was not a member of the Jackson Five." Bellylaughs all around. But here's the catch. Leon was joking. He just wanted a laugh, and he got one. He just didn't mind taking the grade reduction to get it.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:35 PM
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39.  As long as Leon knows when to stop joking
then there's nothing wrong with that!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:54 PM
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41. Not really...he got kicked out the next year
:shrug:

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:28 PM
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42. That's the problem with people who don't care.
They fail. Sad.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:08 PM
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33. Sounds like a good question to me.
I remember way back when I was a kid with chickenpox wondering if there were other kinds of animalpox.

(psst... there are)
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:31 PM
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37. Yeah, like cowpox!
Which was the basis of the cure for, what was it? Smallpox.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 03:08 PM
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34. It's a perfectly legitimate question, and shows that the asker
has some understanding - indeed, if there is a "small" something, there very well might be a "Large" something.

It would far more ignorant to make the assumption that there ISN'T a largepox.

And, as you found out, the question was even more legitimate since the answer is YES.

:eyes:
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:33 PM
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38. Indeed!
And I'm not ashamed to acknowledge either my surprise or my ignorance. My greying hair, now, that's another story.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 04:41 PM
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40. Some of my students are unbelievably stupid too
It's SO frustrating.

For example, did you know that decisions from the United States Supreme Court aren't binding on the California Supreme Court because one court is federal and the other is state?

Yeah...that comes to you courtesy of more than one (significantly more than one) law student.

We're all doomed.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 05:49 PM
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43. Sounds like a fair question to me...
Discussing something called "small pox" begs the question of what the difference is between it and regular pox or large pox. The OP had to look it up, and I'm sure very few people know about "large pox."

While I'm sure plenty of the kids in her history class ARE unbelievably stupid, I feel this is NOT sufficient evidence upon which to base that claim.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:17 PM
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44. That's nothing.
Beginning of last year, freshman year of college, I was sitting in a guest lecture with Ted Rall, on Central Asian politics, in the Foellinger Auditorium (non-illini, that's the giant auditorium where they hold the god-awful 750 person lecture classes), and he's givin' his lecture, slides and laser pointer and everything, and this girl leans over and says to me..."which one's Russia?"

Now, mind, there's a giant map of Asia on the screen, and Russia is not a small country, and in this case colored bright yellow. And yet, this girl, dead serious, was flummoxed. By the largest country in the world. The country Ted Rall had been talking about for the past 15 minutes. "Which one's Russia?"

Not, friends, how I wanted to start off my college career.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:27 PM
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47. Damn.
I've seen high-schoolers who think Germany's an island...but not knowing where Russia is?
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:34 PM
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48. You know, I used to be pretty proud of my geographic knowledge. Now I
don't know, perhaps I was just hanging around geographically-challenged idiots or something.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:21 PM
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45. that's HILARIOUS, that kid needs a gig in vegas...
:rofl: :thumbsup:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:37 PM
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49. I had a student ask if Georgia was the capital of Alabama.
I didn't even know how to respond.
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