Arrgh! A new ad for Cialis! Fucking DUMB!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

These ads are always annoying, but this one just seemed extra stupid. It was some guy lying on a bed, with his SO asleep on his shoulder, while the announcer begins, "Usually when you take an ED drug, the time may be right for you, but not for your sleeping beauty. With Cialis you have a 36-hour time window...."

:wtf:

Okay, seriously. No one cares about this hypothetical impotency. If you have it, I'm sorry, but isn't it a little strange (not to mention ridiculous) that these boner pills are advertised all the time, while people continue to gripe about birth control?

:eyes:

On Edit: Just out of curiosity--do these things actually WORK? I mean, dependably?

[querelle]

1. Yep! That's Dumb

But not nearly as stupid as the one where the happy couple arrives late for an opera performance because they were too busy doing the nasty once the old man could make wood. They excuse themselves as they make their way to their seats in the middle of the performance. Being an opera fan, I can tell you that once a performance begins the doors are closed and NO ADMITTANCE is allowed. If you're late, tough shit. You don't get in until the next intermission. Cracks me up every time I see it.

Q

[WritingIsMyReligion]

4. I think I saw that one.

:rofl::rofl:

Ah, sex. What the hell would we do without it?

[querelle]

101. Cease To Exist? n/t

[tinfoil tiaras]

2. WTF???

Hahahaha...i think i've seen that one. It's hilarious.

did you see the other one with the guy throwing a football through a tire swing or whatever? that one is :rofl:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

5. Oh yeah.

He's such a manly-man!

:rofl::rofl:

[VeggieTart]

19. Was that Joe Namath throwing the football?

Didn't he or some other 1970s QB do that saying something like "get back in the game."

Speaking of which, Dan Marino has sold his soul to NutriSystem, telling guys to get back in the game with prepackaged food. Asshole.

And I see a lot more Viagra/Cialis/Levitra commercials than birth control commercials. And all the spam I get in my e-mail at work is offering VeAGRiA and Cialis.

[tinfoil tiaras]

25. 93T FR33 V1@9R@ &&& C1@71$$$$

:P :P

[billyskank]

3. "boner pills"

:rofl:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

6. Hey, I didn't make that up.

First time I saw it was here on DU, actually.

:D

:hi:

[Dukkha]

114. I actually think I may have coined the phrase here

i use it a lot when being POed over all the spam I get.

[Goblinmonger]

121. Well, if you didn't have such a small penis

you wouldn't get ads for enlargement.

[Dukkha]

122. OOH! i'm calling you out sire!

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/downloads/track.php?dl=music/gloveslap.mp3

[Goblinmonger]

130. Did you just slap me

with your penis? If that is the case, sir, I retract my disparaging comment.

[mduffy31]

7. As a nurse who has worked in a hospital

I have personally dealt with someone who had the "if your erection lasts longer than four hours" patients.

[Eurobabe]

8. My cousin too, he was an ER Trauma nurse

let's just say that a 4+ hour woody is a trauma. LOL.

[querelle]

9. Everwood? n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

11. It actually is serious--"priapism" can result in permanent loss of sexual function,

if not identified and treated properly.

[Skittles]

21. a comic said

"If I have a boner lasting four hours I'm calling every woman I know." :D

[AllegroRondo]

40. So what is the treatment for that?

do they show him pics of Rosanne Barr until it goes down?

[plcdude]

43. okay

you just can let that go and not say anything on how you "handled" the situation.

[taterguy]

10. Wouldn't it be fucking dumb to not use available resources?

Seriously and literally. There are men that need this product. Most drugs work, that's why they're so popular. I'm guessing that these ads are prevalent because, well, some of the men who need these products have a lot of money. That's the way our commercial TV system works. I might not agree with that ethos but that's the way things are.

[crim son]

41. And nothing makes the little woman feel sexy

like her man popping a pill in order to get it up for the act. :puke:

[crim son]

42. Oh, & just in case somebody thinks this topic is out of the realm

of my experience, it's not.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

45. LOL.

Okay, that was bad of me to laugh.

But it was still well put.

:evilgrin:

[crim son]

48. Well, I was reading how your were being challenged for

having an opinion. Naturally, this is a sensitive subject for some. :eyes:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

49. Oh, you ARE so evil.

:spray:

:)

[crim son]

I'm afraid some do appear to believe it.

IRL, I'm your average sweetheart. Jus' like you! :evilgrin:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

52. We're so sweet.

:evilgrin:

It must be the Maine weather.

:P

[Midlodemocrat]

56. Yup. It is. Having watched a family member suffer with this

along with dementia, it is a pretty sensitive topic. Much like being told a person lacks integrity for cheating on an SO.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

58. Sharp hit there.

Very subtle.

[Midlodemocrat]

62. Not really. Nor was it intended to be.

[crim son]

111. And like that same discussion,

the question at the center of the argument is not being acknowledged. The ads are tacky IMO, but then, I don't care for tampon ads either. And yes, I am as intimately familiar with the issue at hand and yes, it has had a negative impact on my marriage for about seventeen years, with or without the drug. But I dislike the ads, and I think the OP was not intended to offend those of us who have to deal with the problem.

Hell, I had acid reflux disease for years until surgery finally took care of it. I took loads of Prilosec just so I could maintain a normal weight... couldn't eat anything otherwise... but I loathed the endless ads touting the drug. However I take your point; we can be very sensitive about issues that affect us personally.

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

12. I hate that lousy "sexy" music - GRRRRR!!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

17. Haha, yeah!

It really ISN'T.

:rofl::rofl:

[Left Is Write]

13. You'd care an awful lot about that "hypothetical impotency"

if it were you or your spouse suffering from it.

I don't think the "boner pills" are advertised any more often than birth control is. I see lots of commercials for all kinds of prescription birth control.

[Missy Vixen]

16. Thank you

>if it were you or your spouse suffering from it<

I could not have said it any better myself.

Julie

[WritingIsMyReligion]

18. But do people really rag on Cialis?

(Aside from me, that is.)

I see evangelicals getting into a frenzy over birth control. Few of them seem to care about Viagra or Cialis.

I'm not ragging on people who suffer from ED. America just seems to have an obsession with sex, until you actually try to instigate an ounce of responsibility into it.

[Midlodemocrat]

27. Okay, frankly, you have no idea of what you speak.

You are 14 years old. Have you ever dealt with a family member with ED? Do you have any idea what it is like to deal with a family member with ED? I didn't think so.

ED isn't about sex. It's about quality of life. Something you will understand when you are older. It's about a form of intimacy that once was held dear and is now lost.

In all honesty, I find it difficult if not impossible to defend this stuff to you. You seem to get all worked up over stuff which has no direct bearing on your life. It would seem to me that your time would be better spent dealing with your own life, rather than the lives of people in commercials on tv.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

29. Well, I'm sorry for making a comment.

Excuse me. I'll go sit in the back of the bus now, since I can't play with the adults anymore. Clearly I spend too much time caring about the world around me. Shall I go back and play with make-up and other such things that good, average teenage girls do? Am I just too nosy and outspoken and recalcitrant for you now?

[Midlodemocrat]

30. You didn't make a comment.

You ranted about a prescription drug that is advertised on tv that makes life bearable for an entire population of people. How is that 'caring about the world around me?' It's very easy to make a comment about something about which you have absolutely no experience.

And, frankly, the 'I'm an uber feminist' schtick is getting old. The fact that you don't consider yourself a 'good, average teenage girl' has no bearing on this.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

31. All right, then. I will refrain from opening my mouth ever again unless I have a doctorate in the

I have a doctorate in the subject.

I gave my opinion on the ads, which is that they are laughably cheesy and, in some cases, questionably acted. I also voiced the opinion that there is hypocrisy around the fact that America hardly bats an eyelash at a drug which enables men to get an erection, even as it helps with relationships, while a portion of the population flips out at the idea of people buying birth control. I think that is just a little disturbing.

If you think I am a "militant" feminist, you may be right, in some ways. I certainly do not take things lying down, and I generally do not hesitate to voice my opinion, which, when it comes to my sex, is particularly "vitrolic"--my opinion of things such as make-up, marriage customs, and society in general is pretty far left and "out there." I do not, however, attempt to disparage those who are more traditional in these respects. I can see that you won't hesitate to correct me when you think I have taken attacks too far, which is perfectly fine, and necessary. I must ask that you attempt to respect me, foolish 15-year-old though I might be, and consider that while I do not have any experience whatsoever with sex, I am able to make comments on advertising, acting, and product/prescription promotion in America, and possible double standards that our country holds with regard to this.

I apologize for seeming like such a flaming asshole to you, which was not at all my original intention, and ask that if you wish to criticize me in the future, you treat me as an adult, and not continually bring my age into question when in fact it has little bearing on the overall subject (advertising) at hand.

[MiniMandaRuth]

36. Bra-fuckin'-vo.

Could not have said it better myself.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

37. Thank you, MMR.

I hate to argue with fellow DUers over something so dumb, but when people's rationale for tearing apart my rationale is my age, I get more than a little peeved.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

46. There's really no hypocrisy involved here

I can't believe I'm about to semi-defend fundies here, but at least they're consistent.

The fundies' problem with birth control (as I understand it) is that it prevents conception when sexual intercourse occurs. They aren't so much upset about the sex part as they are about the imposition of "Man's Will" in the way of "God's Will".

There isn't any uproar over Viagra or Cialis as neither of these products interfere with conception; in fact, it's quite the opposite. These products allow conception to occur and allow "God's Will" to be done. (Remember that God wants all white Christians to have as many babies as possible to spread his word!)

[WritingIsMyReligion]

47. What I'm saying is that the hypocrisy runs with those who agree with the fundies.

With the advertisers, etc. who bow and scrape to their every ridiculous whim.

Just because there's a small group of religious wackjobs doesn't mean that common sense has to go out the window.

[fudge stripe cookays]

33. Wow.

Overreact much?

I thought she made a good point for her age, or for any age. I see WAY more of these ads than I do for birth control. It's an interesting observation.

And the fundies who are ALL over the ED drug think birth control is for sinners. Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, 14 or not.

[Missy Vixen]

44. The birth control ads are wall-to-wall

on Lifetime, Food Network and other female-oriented TV programming.

The ED drugs advertise heavily on sporting events, which are seen by the market they're trying to attract.

Everyone here is entitled to their opinion, but for those who genuinely need the ED medication, it sure as hell is no laughing matter to them or their spouse. There is no easy way to advertise the product. I actually thought the commercial with the guy hitting "record" on the VCR because he wanted to spend time with his SO was fine in comparison to the "bathtub" one, or the truly annoying Enzyte ads that run on cable channels.

IMHO, YMMV.
Julie

[Midlodemocrat]

50. Her OP was edited by the time you responded.

And, no, as someone who has witnessed the effects on a family with a family member with ED, I'm not overreacting. Not in the least.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

51. The OP was edited for grammar and to better paraphrase the voice-over.

The "curiosity" part was added in on a second edit, and not to cover my ass after being "blistered" by you--in fact, I was done editing the thing before anybody responded. I've got nothing to hide.

[Midlodemocrat]

55. Actually, I wasn't the first to call you on your choice of words

To anyone who has suffered from ED whether directly or via a family member, 'hypothetical impotency' is such an incredibly insensitive choice of words, it boggles my mind.

That's why I responded to you. You have NO idea what people with ED suffer through and ranting about the damned commercials? In effect calling their disorder somatic? Please.

And, as far as the birth control ads are concerned, you're flat out wrong. They run just as often if not more as new delivery methods are introduced.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

57. "Hypothetical impotency" was a poor choice of words, but I did not mean to suggest

that people with ED are delusional and somatic. I meant to suggest that, as someone downthread asks, who really ARE the people using these types of drugs? Do we have any way of knowing? Could it just as easily be young studs looking for a boost? In that way, those users would not be truly impotent. I would not put that beyond people.

As for the commercials, I have no idea whatsoever why you are criticizing my criticizing them on terms of style. I think that the commercials are poorly done, with innuendo that, as another poster said, is as subtle as a brick. I find them distasteful and cheesy, and not very clinical. I find a lot of things distateful and cheesy, though, not just ED drug ads, so if you'd like to flame me on those as well, go right ahead.

On Edit: Changed "ED drugs" to "ED drug ads." That's all. I swear.

[Left Is Write]

59. If "young studs looking for a boost" are using Viagra or Cialis...

then the problem either lies with an unethical doctor or a black market for the drugs.

No ethical doctor would prescribe these types of drugs for someone who does not actually have ED.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

60. I would hope not.

;)

[Left Is Write]

66. The operative word is, of course, "ethical."

I'm sure there are doctors who prescribe whatever their patients ask for. Those are not doctors I would describe as ethical.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

69. Definitely no.

:)

[Midlodemocrat]

61. Fair questions.

I can't think of a single colleague of mine who would prescribe a drug to a 'young stud' who wished them. First of all, anyone under 18? Forget it. Second of all, most ED is a co-morbid disease. In other words, men don't get ED by itself, (usually). They get it as a result of another disease, usually ones that affect the vascular system such as DM, or NIDDM, cardiomyopathy, congestive heart failure, pulmonary hypertension, chronic hypertension, chronic kidney failure.

Anyone of those diseases can cause ED. Most of the individuals with ED are elderly, but the ads are trying to encourage even those who are in their 50s and have lowered testosterone to seek help rather than sit and stew and get angry at their spouses.

For a man who has enjoyed a long and satisfying sex life with his wife or partner to suddenly or over a period of time be rendered incapable of that is devastating. I have seen elderly men in nursing homes, in wheelchairs, in diapers who are still of the mind set that they are attractive to the little old lady sitting across from them. It's part of what makes us human beings. The desire to be loved and to love.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

63. Again, I disagree with you nowhere.

All I question is the taste of the advertising. That's it.

[Pithlet]

35. I'm 34, and think she has a good point.

I do wonder why the fundies don't get into a tizzy over ED medicine the way they do over birth control. I suspect I know the reason why. I don't think it's slamming the very real medical need for ED pills, but rather commenting on the glaring double standard that the Right Wing Conservative Christians are applying. A double standard that resonates throughout our culture. Having sex for pleasure and not to procreate is a big no-no for them, so birth control is bad. It's interesting that same notion doesn't apply to a medication for men.

[CC]

128. Being much older than 14

and having dealt with a family member, actually multiple family members (some that offer way TMI)with ED I get just as upset/weird and laughing at the commercials. No birth control commercials around here either unless you want to count the tri whatever that treats acne. The commercials are stupid and cheapen the relationship between a couple. As to ED. I am glad there is something to help and that people are willing to talk about it and even admit to it but first they should try sensible things like eating right and losing weight before taking a pill. Also they should see a urologist to check for physical problems. Just like everything else a pill is not a magic wand that suddenly makes things work and there is usually an underlying problem that can be deadly. If a doctor clears a person of all other problems, diet and exercise is adjusted and they still have a problem then having a magic little pill is great. But in life I haven't seen anyone willing to work toward good health and make life changes if they can take a pill to help them.

edited for tense

[petronius]

14. I think what's dumb there is: why did he take the pill if she was already asleep?

:shrug:

[Skittles]

22. nah, I think the inference is

he took the pill then got shot down by his wife, who preferred sleep to his boner

[petronius]

23. Hmm... Well perhaps if the asswad focused on her needs as much

as his own, she might stay awake. Selfish bastard...

[trof]

15. I find them offensive.

Maybe I'm more Victorian than I thought?
:shrug:

[Kat45]

20. Yes, they do actually work.

I had a partner who needed Viagra, and it did work.

[Oeditpus Rex]

24. Hey, I just saw one on '60 Minutes'

that was about peein'.

Or, more accurately, I guess, about not peein'. Like, if you're ain't peein', take FloMax. :shrug:

ROFL! And here's the Cialis ad right now!

It's Pee-Pee Teevee! :rofl:

[LostInAnomie]

26. It's not as bad as the one when the couple's family come over...

... just as they were going to go upstairs for some afternoon delight.

After the family leaves the Freudian imagery starts rolling. The next thing you know they are riding in a VERY long convertible down a winding road. They stop at a phallic lighthouse with a scrotum-esque building at it's base. They go to an ice cream stand and the woman starts hungrily licking an ice cream cone. They walk hand in hand by a "V" shaped puddle. Finally, it shows them basking in the setting sun in bath-tubs (that came from nowhere) in the same puddle.

Then again, maybe I'm a pervert that sees Freudian imagery in everything.

[Gormy Cuss]

38. No, you just observed the obvious submessage.

Upthread, someone mentioned an ED commercial with a football play "getting back in the game" so to speak and he throws a football through a tire swing? That imagery is about as subtle as a brick.

[WCGreen]

28. Or the one were the guy figures out he can tape a program

while tapping his 'ho....

[NMMNG]

32. I agree

Okay, seriously. No one cares about this hypothetical impotency. If you have it, I'm sorry, but isn't it a little strange (not to mention ridiculous) that these boner pills are advertised all the time, while people continue to gripe about birth control?


I was debating with a RW whackjob who was proud to say his pharmacist friend refused to carry any form of birth control and other products that he considered to be contributing to "immoral lifestyles". When I asked, twice, if the pharmacist friend carried Viagra and it's pharmaceutical counterparts I got no reply. I was not surprised.


Funny how birth control is evil and immoral, but boner pills are A-OK.

[ScreamingMeemie]

34. Yes, they do... and they saved a friend of mine's marriage.

And they are advertised, I would imagine, to make it easier for a couple to ask their doctor about it. i.e. it takes the taboo away a little bit, because we live in such a morally uptight world these days. Of course, they don't call them "boner pills". They call them miracle pills.

[hedgehog]

39. The real question is, who is buying most of these pills;

the gentlemen with ED or idiot young studs who think it will give them a little boost?

[Ariana Celeste]

53. I would think people dealing with ED care

On edit: And the attitudes on this thread kind of shock me. I guess men who have sexual health problems should be ashamed and embarrassed about it. :eyes:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

54. Of course they would.

I've been through this upthread.

[CC]

129. No they shouldn't be

embarrassed to seek medical treatment or talk about the problem but they are pretty bad commercials and those suffering ED should seek thorough medical testing before taking them. There is a reason so many DIED when viagra first came on the market. I know for a fact that many GP's will just prescribe an ED pill without doing any testing for other problems/diseases first.

[LeftyMom]

64. Boner pills are for assholes.

"Drug company Pfizer has admitted carrying out tests on Viagra that involved mutilating dogs' genitals but defended the experiments as essential.

The research on the impotence pill was carried out at Pfizer's UK laboratories in Sandwich, Kent after earlier tests on humans.

Animal rights groups are outraged at experiments, which involved removing the foreskins of the anaesthetised beagles and then giving them shocks with electrodes inserted into the centre of their penises.

The company, which also carried out tests on rabbits, rats, mice and monkeys in Bristol, put the dogs down afterwards."

Behind every little blue pill is a dead, mutilated dog. Think of that the next time you want to fuck.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

65. Oh-oh.

You're in trouble now. The ED police wil be out for your bloody garters.

:scared:

[LeftyMom]

70. Okay

I'm bored anyhow. :shrug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

71. Pfffft...

:rofl:

You're quite as bad as crim son.

:thumbsup:

[WildEyedLiberal]

Can I just point out...

That your statement upthread: "All I question is the taste of the advertising. That's it." is rather contradicted by your snarky reference to the "ED police" in this post?

I think this whole mess could have been avoided if you'd merely been a bit more tactful and clear in your OP, if you had made it perfectly clear that you thought the ads were tacky and distasteful but had no gripe with the drugs themselves. As written, the OP does rather seem like you think the very mention of ED drugs is somehow anti-feminist, and I would wager that is why you received the replies you did.

Just some advice from someone who not ten years ago was every bit as brash and headstrong as you.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

76. It probably was brash, and I understand that.

What would you like me to do about it? I'm beyond the editing period.

[WildEyedLiberal]

89. Well, stop being so combative about it, for one

There is a lesson to be learned here for the future if you wish to take anything away from this experience. No one is questioning your right to have and express opinions, but you also have to understand that the manner in which you express your opinions is often as important as the opinion itself. When you state your opinions in such an argumentative tone, you are probably going to cause a negative reaction that would not have happened if you had expressed your opinion in a more measured and thoughtful way. Furthermore, when several people tell you that you have perhaps phrased things insensitively, becoming more belligerent and stubborn is only going to exacerbate the problem.

No one is saying you have to be meek and mild, but there is a difference between being opinionated and being domineering. Just my two cents.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

94. All of which I have come to see.

I'm only sorry that people have persisted in dogging my tail about it, despite repeated apologies. Thank you for having a modicum of civility.

[WildEyedLiberal]

100. With all due respect...

Most of your apologies have sounded like your reply to me - you grudgingly admit your OP was phrased inelegantly and then get in one last little jab at the people who, for lack of better phrasing, "called you on it." Your overall tone is still defensive and combative, and that could be why people are still "dogging your tail."

I'm not saying any of this to attack you or make you the bad guy or whatever - on the contrary, I can see this was all just a big misunderstanding. My ultimate point is, it is a misunderstanding that could have been cleared up 60 posts ago with less defensiveness and more civility on both sides - yes, other people could have been more polite in voicing their dissent with you, but you too must share some of this blame, which I think you realize for the most part. Sometimes it's as simple as a humble "ok guys, I fucked up. I'm sorry." There's certainly no shame in admitting you phrased something wrong - anyone who says they never mangle their words is a liar.

Well, I'm outta here, I hope at least people can use this thread as a learning experience and perhaps learn that a little bit of humility, decorum, and consideration goes a long way. And no that comment is not directed solely at you, but rather at the entire thread. Peace.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

104. Peace to you as well.

:hi:

[petronius]

110. Great - your imagery has killed my sex drive

Now I need to go get some boner pills, but if I get the pills I'll picture your image again - it's a vicious circle. I guess I'll never fuck again... :cry:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

67. Alright, how would you sell an ED pill?

How would you do it differently? Hmm?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

68. Maybe make the ads a little less outright tacky?

:shrug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

73. How so.

Give me details.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

78. Take out all the ridicuous innuendo, for one.

Enough licking ice cream cones and throwing a football through a tire. We get it already.

And secondly, can the sleazy announcer please drop dow to a slightly less lewd tone?

[Gormy Cuss]

81. Have Bob Dole talk about the subject in a frank manner.

Oh wait, that's been done.
For that matter, use an actor in a white coat with a stethoscope draped around his neck to emphasize that it's a medical problem and correctable.

If products for menstrual flow containment were advertised with similar subtlety, they'd be using the prom scene from 'Carrie.'

[WritingIsMyReligion]

83. Except that menstrual flow has nothing to do with sex.

(But that's a whole different issue).

I agree with you, Gormy. :thumbsup:

[LeftyMom]

72. Doctors prescribe it, men go to the pharmacy and get it?

I don't seem to recall a big problem with people dropping over dead for lack of medication before direct advertising of prescription drugs became such a big thing.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

74. Alright, so say you're a drug company...

you've just spent 8 billion dollars on R&D for a new drug. How do you get consumers to take your drug, as opposed to your competitor's drug?

[LeftyMom]

77. Make it better, sell it a couple of bucks cheaper, give more promo stuff to doctors' offices?

Somehow they managed to make money back when I could watch a football game without hearing about 4 hour wood.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

80. Exactly. (nt)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

82. Let's say it is better.

Let's say that, unlike your competitors, your ED drug allows the consumer to get voluntary erections over 36 hours.

However, because the public doesn't know about the benefits because your competitor's drug is synonymous with ED treatment. What do you do then.

"Somehow they managed to make money back when I could watch a football game without hearing about 4 hour wood."

So, basically, you admit that the problem is that you feel embarassed hearing about erections?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

84. It could be that she's sick of advertising in general, as well.

Or sick of hearing wood promoted while people still get their panties in a twist over contraceptives.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

85. Really?

Because I don't hear the same kind of complaints about truck commercials.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

86. What in all's name does a truck commercial have to do with it?

I can rant easily about that "patriotic" truck commercial out right now, if you'd like to hear it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

87. You mentioned "advertising in general."

But seem upset about ED ads in particular.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

88. Because they're particularly tacky and obvious. (nt)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

90. Obvious?

:shrug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

91. Several people on this thread have talked about the blatant innuendo in them.

Sorry to sound puritanical, but I personally find them in bad taste.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

93. Wait a minute...

You said "obvious" now "innuendo." Make up your mind.

"Sorry to sound puritanical, but I personally find them in bad taste."

Well, yes, and it reminds me a bit of the people that get worked up over birth control.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

96. Innuendo, when poorly done, IS obvious.

It rather defeats the purpose of the word, I know, but there you have it.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

98. Soo...

You want it to be more subtle innuendo?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

99. Yes, that would be a start.

It would probably make the ads more bearable, and less laughable. I honestly cannot watch one of them without bursting into laughter.

[Midlodemocrat]

106. You do realize that you are not the target audience?

And therefore the ads are not directed at you? Anymore than ads for high school band musical instruments are not directed at men with ED?

I guess I don't see why you care so much about something that doesn't affect you. Why do you care who is getting the pills? You're not paying for them, so why are you so worked up over it?

[WritingIsMyReligion]

107. I don't know.

And I really don't care to argue about it anymore with you.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

97. delete

wrong spot.

[LeftyMom]

108. You get that information to doctors who prescribe the competittion's drug.

Somehow when I have pneumonia, I don't have to go in and tell the doctor I want the antibiotic I saw advertised during 60 Minutes, the doctor presents me with treatment options after asking questions and examining me. I want the medicines I may need presented to me by somebody with my medical best interest in mind, not somebody with a degree in marketing.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

116. A good friend of mine (female, btw, fwiw) worked on the initial ad campaign

for Viagra.

One of their primary issues was precisely this. If you have pneumonia (or most other hypothetical illnesses), yes, you go to the doctor and he prescribes whatever medication is best for your situation.

However, in the case of ED, they found that most men were so ashamed of their condition that they wouldn't consult with their doctor about it. They would simply frown and bear it.

The two major goals of the ad campaign surrounding Viagra were:

1) Provide awareness of the product to men who might otherwise be too ashamed to speak to their doctors about it

and

2) Decrease the stigma normally ascribed to the condition in order that men with ED would speak with their doctor about it

Hence these commercials.

[LeftyMom]

120. And they would up- inadvertently, I'm sure ;) - creating a recreational market

That's part of the problem with this class of drugs, in addition to the men who have a medical "need" for them, there are many who will abuse them just to get a little more out of a perfectly good sex life. There are women who are suffering because the lack of downtime leaves them abraded or with (how to put this delicately) their needs unmet. There are real health risks involved as well, and many men who could treat their sexual issues with lifestyle changes instead are facing those health risks needlessly.

[Dukkha]

75. exactly

I have never seen an ad for contraceptives with the exception for condons, and that's targeted to males in the same tpye of crass ads.

[LeftyMom]

79. I have seen them, but almost always in print.

I have seen video ads for nuvaring and seasonalle.

[skygazer]

92. I gotta hand it to you

You've managed to incite a flamewar with a Cialis thread. Will this go down in DU history along with Olive Garden and Fat Actress? Only time will tell. In the meantime, I award you the Bizarre Flamewar Order of Merit. Congratulations. :applause:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

95. Thank you, thank you.

Really, it was nothing.

:rofl:

[WildEyedLiberal]

102. LOL

Best post in the thread. :rofl:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

103. I agree.

:rofl:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

105. Okay, y'all...I fucked up, you fucked up.

We all fucked up.

Apologies extended. No, seriously.

Now may we stop giving skygazer more reasons to nominate this for most random flame war ever?

:P

:hi:

[MrSlayer]

109. Cialis most certainly works.

I've used it recreationally several times and damn if it doesn't make you even better than when you were 18. You can go as many times as you want over the life of the pill with little to no recovery period. It's a nice thing for a weekend getaway.

[crim son]

112. It didn't work for my husband.

We did try it, though.

[MrSlayer]

113. I'm sorry to hear that.

Of course, I don't need to take them so it's not much of a surprise that they would be so effective. A family member of mine who really does need to take them has had poor results with all the major brands. I wonder if any of those herbal brands work.

[crim son]

115. I don't know.

But I'll suggest it to him. We are separating and heading for divorce so he will have to try to work the magic with somebody else. Me, I never plan to have sex again. :shrug:

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

117. Oh you are so not becoming celibate.

:rofl:

[crim son]

118. I am too!

I can barely remember the sexual act... :eyes: Besides, I'm getting too damned old for the pursuit. Help me. :rofl:

On edit: thanks for speaking to me. I'm pissing everybody off lately and it sucks.

[ironflange]

119. It *ahem* works for me

It's a little funny, though, it doesn't always work, I found out the hard way (no pun intended) that if there's wine with dinner you can forget about snusnu later. I can also attest that it doesn't last 36 hours for everyone.

[Rowdyboy]

123. Several years ago, illness caused ed and I was forced to try Viagra

It restored my ability to be intimate with the most important person in the world to me. Sorry it bothers you but impotency is not hypothetical and they're not "boner pills". And yes, they do work reliably. Trust me, they've given me back my confidence.

[Missy Vixen]

124. Rowdyboy, thanks for posting

>impotency is not hypothetical and they're not "boner pills".<

You and several others here know of which you speak, and it takes courage to post about it.

I hope that things are great for you and your loved one.

Julie

[Rowdyboy]

126. Trust me Julie, I liked Viagra.......

But I absolutely LOVE Cialis. The freedom to be relaxed and just go with the situation is incredible.

[AntiWarPoster]

125. Oh you can bet your butt that theywork

I don't need them, being only 22, but I popped a Viagra tablet once to see what it would do and I had raging boners for the next 5 hours. Drugs like that are very strong.

[CC]

127. It is the if you have an

erection for 4 hours or more seek medical attention that always has me roflmao. I can just see a line of men at the emergency room door...while having listened to men say hell no I'm using it when they see the same disclaimer.

As too the hard on pill ads and the fight for birth control it all goes back to if men had babies abortion would be a sacrament (grew up listening to my mom say this). Hard on pills = big money while birth control/vaccine that prevents cervical cancer = sin aka young girls having sex.