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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:18 AM
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Parents horrified as KILLER WHALE behaves contrary to a cartoon..
One woman interviewed on CNN would rather have sbeen something in place to kill the whale rather than see the guy get hurt.

While I understand I don't get why people are shocked when a KILLER WHALE behaves like a FUCKING KILLER WHALE!

Listen up fuckers! When you take your kids to see a KILLER WHALE WTF do you expect?

KILLER WHALES are KILLER WHALES. Not cute cuddly lill plushy cartoon characters. The word KILLER infront of the word WHALE means that it is a KILLER!!!

When they announced the whale as a KILLER WHALE what do you expect? Did you want it to come up and serve you tea and cookies and pose for phucking photos?

Have I mentioned that I hate stoopid people yet?

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:21 AM
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1. LMAO
I love righteous anger!

And, of course, I agree with you 100%
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:21 AM
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2. er, did I miss a news story about something?
I agree with the sentiments of your post, but I don't know what prompted it.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:32 AM
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15. linky
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:42 AM
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17. Thanks!
So the guy escaped with no serious injuries....and a spectator wants the whale killed?!?!?!

:crazy:

And, as another poster pointed out, if the whale had WANTED the guy dead, he'd be dead.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:22 AM
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3. oh lord, let me never be stoopid in front of you.... lol
thanks, you gave me a laugh before my coffee this morning
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:22 AM
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4. It's too bad we hunted teh Cuddly Whales to extinction
In retrospect, that might have been a mistake.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:23 AM
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5. Free Willy! Free Willy! Free Willy!
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 09:23 AM by Gormy Cuss
I think calling them orcas confuses people too. "Killer whale" has such a nice ring to it.


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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:25 AM
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6. Does that mean grizzly bears aren't as snuggly as they look on Animal Planet?
:sarcasm:

I also will never understand why people think WILD animals will not be wild anymore if you're nice to them and feed them. That's why they're called WILD ANIMALS people!
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:54 AM
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20. Ask Timothy Treadwell
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:25 AM
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7. I saw that and simply said
Duh!:rofl: :rofl:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:26 AM
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8. Ever see "Grizzly Man"?
Won an Oscar for documentary, nature show host and man from venus Timmy Treadwell who thought grizzly bears were actually Disney characters finds out the hard way that they are actually killers, and is eaten by one along with his girlfriend, on audio tape, (the lens was covered during the attack)

wild movie.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:58 AM
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23. So the bear got hungry. Give him a break.
There was no Bear McDonald's around.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:08 AM
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25. Actually, I met Tim
on the Katmai. Herzog must have had a hair up his ass for the guy. He was nothing like he was portrayed in the movie.
However, I don't really feel sorry for Tim, although I felt his loss -- and I only met the guy once, which shows you what kind of impact he had on you. But people who do dangerous things get killed doing them. How many people have died on Everest?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:56 AM
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41. "He was nothing like he was portrayed in the movie"??
Most of the movie was video Treadwell took himself--of himself.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:27 PM
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61. You ever had a journal?
Do you behave in your journal as you do in real life? Obviously, Tim used the videos as a sounding board, journal; a way to let off steam.
You think Tim ever meant those videos to be aired?

My wonderful husband, best person I know, had a boss he hated. He used to keep a little notebook with him, fill it with hateful thoughts about the guy just to let off steam. If anybody'd ever picked up that notebook they'd have thought he was a psychopath.

For a really fair, and non-laudatory btw, look at Tim's life, go to Outside Magazine's archives. A writer who knew him wrote a summing up of Tim's life. It also includes an essay by a bear-watcher who gets much better press than Tim -- the guy who watches brown bears in the former soviet union. He and Tim were friends.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:27 AM
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9. Did something happen involving an orca and a human?
I missed it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:21 AM
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31. Yes. An Orca attacked a trainer @ SeaWorld. Hurt the guy's foot.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:54 AM
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40. Gratzi.
:hi:
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:29 AM
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10. You obviously know nothing about whales
these creatures are for the most part friendly towards humans and highly intelligent, now if you are a seal your pretty much fucked as they like to eat them, can you please give a link to the article that set you off?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:05 AM
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24. Orcas are more of a porpoise than a whale
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:51 AM
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38. Yeah, a really big, powerful and aggressive porpoise that can eat sharks.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:23 AM
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32. Whales have attacked trainers before. They are wild animals...seals are wild
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 10:26 AM by xultar
so are hippos and even dolphins. Dolphins have been filmed killing seals for play and pleasure. If they attack I can't blame them. That is what wild animals do. I know a hell of a lot about animals. That is why I'm not surprised the whale attacked. Just cuz a whale is usually nice doesn't mean it won't attack.

It was on tv. I'm not providing a link cuz I don't have to. This is GD.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:30 AM
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11. the one I bought at Sea World is cuddly
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:30 AM
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12. the whale was just showing the 'trainer' who's boss
it could have EASILY killed her with one jaw flip, it was just taking her to the bottom to deliver a message. Giant dolphins are VERY intelligent.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:40 AM
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16. The trainer should keep a can of "spare air" on her belt at all times...
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 09:41 AM by elehhhhna
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:26 AM
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44. It probably thought: "Okay I've performed your little tricks for 30 years.
Now let's see how YOU respond."
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:32 AM
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13. as chris rock notes: the tiger didn't go "berserk", the tiger went TIGER
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:18 AM
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29. lol
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:32 AM
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14. To paraphrase my SO...
Stupid should hurt!

I just want to slap someone who acts astonished that animals do what animals do. Even their household pets. People get bent out of shape when Fido behaves like a dog or Fluffy behaves like a cat. Wise up, people!
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:14 AM
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28. Stupid should hurt...
Your SO is brilliant!
Mind if I adopt that?:bounce:

Imagine..a whale that acts like a whale. What is this world coming to?
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HannibalBarca Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:44 AM
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18. Quoted FOR TRUTH
I'M GLAD SOMEONE HAS FINALLY SAID THIS.I'm oh so sorry that Mrs stereotypical overweight mom is irritated because it was her precious little one's 6th birthday and he actually saw nature as it truly is, uncontrolled, fearsome and beautiful in its natural state. These people stupefy me, truly.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:45 AM
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19. My first reaction to the story: There will now be people seeking to kill Shamu!
It's like when someone is attacked by any wild creature; a bear, a puma, an alligator. The first thing to do is kill the poor animal, even if it was only defending its young and the human was provoking it.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:19 AM
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30. Like killing a whale in front of her kids wouldn't be equally traumatic.
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A Brand New World Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:55 AM
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21. Well at least the trainers aren't freaking out and ready to kill
the whale. Luckily they are sensible and realize this is part of the job.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:15 AM
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57. Amen to that!
Edited on Fri Dec-01-06 01:16 AM by GoddessOfGuinness
I was wondering if the whale had a sore spot that the handler wasn't aware of. Considering the reaction of my cats and dogs when I've accidentally irritated a wound, it wouldn't seem odd for a whale to "snap" at its handler and be freaked out by their own reaction.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 09:56 AM
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22. I had to explain to my wife
why I flipped out at the stupid bitch on TV. I could have slapped her smug face after that comment. Some people are too stupid to be allowed in public.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:12 AM
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26. Agreed!
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:13 AM
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27. Killer post!
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:24 AM
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33. HL Mencken (sp?) said it best...
"When a man kills an animal it is called sport; when an animal kills a man it is called ferocity."*

*Quote may not be exact, and should be considered a paraphrase. Professional driver on closed course. Do not attempt at home. Prices may vary.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:37 AM
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34. !!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:40 PM
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53. great photo!
i've always loved the black and white pattern....how did they evolve into that, anyways?:shrug:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:09 AM
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55. Most sea creatures have light underbellies and dark backs
If a predator swimming in the open ocean looks up, then it is more difficult for for it to see the light underbelly of the prey against the sun reflecting on the surface above. If the predator looks down, then it is difficult dor it to see the dark back of the prey against the rocks at the bottom.

That's evolution through natural selection. It's simply a divine concept.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:36 AM
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59. thanks!!
I did not know that....
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Divameow77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:44 AM
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35. I explained this to my son this morning
Trainers accept the risk of working with a wild animal, animals that are normally gentle and sweet are still animals and they can be unpredictable. Trainers willingly work with them and they love them, no way would that trainer have wanted the whale killed, I'm sure he understands what happened.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:45 AM
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36. Well
when you capture a wild animal, pen her up, tranfer her from pen to pen for 28 years, putting her on display like this, she's bound to go a little primal sooner or later. Sooner, being June of 1999, later being this most recent episode.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:05 PM
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49. Yup.
:thumbsup:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:48 AM
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37. And your point is?


In their ritual maroon and white body paint, natives
prepare to sacrifice unsuspecting child to Shamu






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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 01:31 PM
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50. Buhwawawa!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 10:53 AM
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39. Disneyworld mentality:
The idea that the whole world exists for our amusement including wild animals and foreign countries.

Sounds like the trainers were prepared for this as it was not completely unexpected.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:19 AM
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43. after Shark's Tale, kids will probably jump off the boat to play with a great white swimming by...
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:52 AM
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56. Natural selection.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:00 AM
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42. A few extra fish in the afternoon snack might be a good idea nt
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:39 AM
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45. I thought Killer meant that he played piano - occasionally with his feet
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:42 AM
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46. Whale Killer was Orca's original name.
Edited on Thu Nov-30-06 11:44 AM by Artiechoke
Given the fact they do have an appetite for (mostly) sick mammals from time to time.
I do not know of any instances where an Orca has killed a human in the wild. There may have been an instance in a captivity situation, but I may be mistaken, and if I am not, I would still cut the whale some slack.
We take mammals with first-class brains, imprison them, and make them do stupid circus tricks and then act shocked when they occasionally get pissed or go psychotic.
There is an amusing story in which there was a group of fisherman on the West Coast who were sharing the space with a pod of Orcas. One of these bright sparks decided to started acting violent to one of the Orcas.
Soon after, another Orca split his boat in half. Nobody was harmed or eaten of course, but they lived to tell the tale, which was probably the intent of the Orca.
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:57 AM
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47. watch this!
(not the Sea World incident): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0J9URHKNWo

People are absolute, freaking idiots if they think ANY animal can be controlled, especially an enormous creature like a killer whale. I agree with the earlier poster who said that the whale knew exactly what he/she was doing - a little tease, a little reminder. And humans NEED to be reminded that we're not all-powerful, no matter what assholes believe to the contrary.

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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 12:03 PM
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48. nor are we the most intelligent.
Great video. Read my post above related to a similar incident.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:38 AM
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58. That was one big male delivering a message. "Your're scarin the kids now F**K OFF !!!"
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 12:51 PM
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62. Clearly the trainers knew exactly that...
And handled the situation perfectly!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:16 PM
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51. Exactly
and when the frig was it such a shock for a creature to behave like a creature.


people are nutts!


oooopppps, but when is it such a shock for people to behave like people? :shrug:



:hi: :hug:

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 02:18 PM
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52. If you were walking through a park with your kid...
and you saw a dog maul somebody, wouldn't you be just a bit horrified?
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-30-06 11:51 PM
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54. ....*le sigh*.....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 01:04 PM
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63. Well?
Wouldn't you be?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-01-06 10:46 AM
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60. From "The Simpsons"
Little Boy's Voice:
"Jump, Free Willey! Jump with all your might!"

Free Willey lands with a "thud!" and a "splat!" atop little boy.

Father's Voice:
Oh, no! Free Willey's crushed our boy. Ooh, what a mess."

Homer Simpson:
"I don't like this new "Director's Cut."


mikey_the_rat
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