USC!!! GO TROJANS!! BEAT THE BRUINS!!!!! FIGHT ON!!!!!!!!

[Kerrytravelers]

Fight On for 'ol SC
Our men Fight On to victory.
Our Alma Mater dear, looks up to you
Fight On and win For 'ol SC
Fight On to victory Fight On!



Palmam qui meruit ferat.
(Let whoever earns the palm bear it.)



All Hail to Alma Mater
To thy glory we sing;
All Hail to Southern California
Loud let thy praises ring;
Where Western sky meets Western sea
Our college stands in majesty;
Sing our love to Alma Mater,
Hail, all hail to thee!













Did I mention I went there? Twice? BA and MA. You gotta cheer the school where you sunk all your money. And there is this little football game we're playing today against the four-letter word from across town... ucla.



That is all.

Carry on.

[Richardo]

1. As we used to say in Westwood: You can't spell 'suck' without USC

My two favorite teams are UCLA and whoever is playing USC. So today I have ONE favorite team:



BA Political Science, '78

[Oeditpus Rex]

2. And you can't spell 'uck'

without "Uck-La."

Nothing's tougher than a Trojan.™ :thumbsup:

[huskerlaw]

5. And only someone educated at USC

would think that Uck is spelled with an L and an A.


;)

And uh...if you want to claim you're full of the same thing as a Trojan, well, good on you...I guess.

[Oeditpus Rex]

7. Two words:

Cade McNown.









I win. :bounce:

[huskerlaw]

10. Huh?

I'm not even a UCLA fan...I couldn't care less.

I just hate USC. The fans SUCK.

[Kerrytravelers]

12. Well, let's not get personal.

This is all in fun. The UCLA fans don't seem to be getting personal.


And, for the record, I do not suck, thank you very much.

[huskerlaw]

14. I don't think you suck

but as a person who supported an away team versus USC this year, I do believe that USC fans, while at the game, are really rude and obnoxious, as a whole.

As for UCLA, their fans may be too, I don't know. Never been to a game against them.

[Richardo]

67. Kerrytravelers, you are teh class act. (But: Yay Bruins)

I'm ecstatic the Brewings finally pulled a win out this year, but SC should be proud to count you as a fan. :toast:

[Oeditpus Rex]

16. UCLA quarterback, 1995-98

Local guy. Major asshole.

[huskerlaw]

17. Yeah, I know who he is

but I'm not a Bruin fan, so :shrug:

[Kerrytravelers]

9. Ewwwwww... nothing is tougher than a Trojan... not what you could find in one.

Ewww... only a Bruin would confuse that! :rofl:



:P

[huskerlaw]

13. Hahaha, except...

I'm not a Bruin!

I just have no respect for USC after the way I was treated at a game earlier this year. The fans are complete assholes who don't have a bit of football knowledge among them.

That said, I know many people who went to USC who are perfectly fine people. But their fans, at the game, are god-awful.

[Oeditpus Rex]

21. I don't know what you encountered

but you can't reasonably expect to be treated as a guest of honor when you fly an enemy flag on the opposing side of the lines.

Up here, I get shit whenever I wear my Dodgers jacket. It goes with the territory.

[huskerlaw]

22. Well, let's see...

I almost got assaulted by a group of "fans" while walking with one friend (we're both girls) in the tailgate area (which was half Husker, half Trojan) before the game.

I saw many Husker fans get punched in the face as they merely walked past the student section gate on their way to their seats.

I spent most of the game deflecting the people around me who were verbally abusive, even though I was high-fiving the little kid behind me whenever USC scored.

And yes, I can expect to be treated with respect. That's how REAL fans treat visitors. The fact that I can't expect that at USC completely proves my point.

[Oeditpus Rex]

27. Holy fuck

Okay, that's over the top. I figured you just had to endure the usual trash talk, which these days can be pretty nasty.

Sorry you had to go through that. :hug:

[huskerlaw]

33. Oh, nope!

I can trash talk with the best of 'em. Love doing that, actually.

But I draw the line at physical violence and total disrespect.

:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. Worst I ever got

was some guys throwing ice at me at a Giants-Dodgers game in SF.

But that was years ago. I'd expect much worse now.

[huskerlaw]

38. USC fans aren't as bad as...

Colorado at least. They've been known to throw broken glass at people. Ugh.

[Oeditpus Rex]

40. People throw a lotta shit these days

Coins, nuts and bolts... stuff that's apparently intended to do real damage.

I think it was Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia (it was Philly; not sure which yard) that had a courtroom of sorts right in the stadium. Fans who got out of control were pinched and hauled to the court, tried and convicted (or not) right then and there. I think that's a hell of a good idea.

[Kerrytravelers]

32. As I was not there, I can't deny this if you say it happened.

But it does seem a bit violent. But, as there are police all over the place en mass during games, I hope you notified them of what happened to you. I do think there is a difference between the people who sat near you who you found verbally abusive and the student body as a whole. I've met some pretty big asshole fans at sporting events, but I don't assume that everyone who goes to that school or who roots for the team are abusive assholes and they suck... especially in a thread that was intended to simply be fun while following the game. This wasn't my intentional tone. I figured somebody from UCLA would match me here and we'd jab at one another. And the winner would gloat and the loser suck it up and laugh it off.

[huskerlaw]

37. Actually,

the police stepped in and stopped the near assault.

The thing is, we weren't even in the student section. We were in the faculty section! But of course, to get there, we had to walk past the student gate, which is were we witnessed the random throwing of punches.

I don't think that every single USC fan is a total asshole. I never said that. But as a whole, your stadium is a very, very unpleasant place to go as a visitor. And yes I believe that, as a whole, USC fans are horrid.

I also didn't intend to come into the thread and get all negative, but in all honestly, I'm going for UCLA because of how horribly I was treated by USC fans. It's unfortunate if my experience was somehow atypical. I don't know how that could be the case though, since all of this occurred without any provocation on my part. :shrug:

That said...I would never assume that you specifically are an asshole. Far from it. You're one of my favorite DUers. It's just a shame that other fans of your team have misrepresented you.

[Kerrytravelers]

26. Do you really take any team rivalry seriously?

We take the UCLA bear and burn it in effigy at a bon fire Thursday before the game. UCLA burns a Tommy Trojan in effigy. We put red dye and bubbles in their fountains. They put blue due and bubbles in ours. We cover Tommy Trojan on campus and have a guard watch because in the past, UCLA students have actually flew over in a helicopter and dropped stuff on our statue. We take chemicals and write our school names in the other ones lawn areas. We go nuts during Troy Week. They go nuts the week before the game, as well. We give one another hell. It's all in fun. Many USC people have friends and family at many different schools that play us. It's in fun.

Notre Dame. Cal. Stanford. There are all kinds of shit the various schools pull on one another. You really can't take it personally or seriously. Hell yea, we're obnoxious. It's letting loose. It's not personal. I had a UCLA fan stand in line behind me for beer one time. When I was paying for my beer, he helped himself to a drink of it. Instead of getting mad, I thought it was hysterical. When his came, the guy behind the counter gave me his beer for a return sip. It was all in fun. All the while, we were totally dogging each other's teams. And it was hysterical.

However, if you're getting visibly mad and insulting people, hell yeah, they're not going to leave you alone. You're now a target. Don't ruin the fun and no one will pick on you.

But, I must just be an asshole without a bit of knowledge when I'm at a game. ;)

[Oeditpus Rex]

29. I miss stuff like that

When I was in college (juco), folks from the rival school would come over during the week of the Big Game and paint a yellow stripe down the back of the granite statue of Beauregard the Panther.

These days, they probably poison the Gatorade.

[huskerlaw]

30. Read my response to Oeditpus...

It has nothing to do with rivalry. It has to do with almost getting assaulted.

And the people I was sitting next to spent far more time verbally assaulting me than they did watching the game. And then they'd ask me what happened, cuz they missed the play while they were in my face.

If it is acceptable to beat up the other team's fans while they're trying to find their seats, then your definition of good fan behavior and mine are completely different.

[Kerrytravelers]

34. I was writing when yours was posted.

No, I obviously do not think assault is good fan behavior. But this thread was joking about the game today. It wasn't meant to stir up bad memories for anyone.

[devilgrrl]

25. Say. Didn't that Wal-Mart heir buy her degree from USC?

Remember her?

[Kerrytravelers]

39. Well, I wouldn't be surprised.

Little King George basically bought his from Yale. It happens. But it totally sucks.

[devilgrrl]

65. USC will be back.

Sorry your guys came up short. :hug:

[Kerrytravelers]

6. You're a Bruin for four years, but a Trojan for life!

[Kerrytravelers]

4. That's funny, I always have two favorite teams, too!

USC and whoever is kicking UCLA's ass!

I have ONE favorite team today!


:rofl:



Actually, right mow, you're winning 7-2. :cry:

[Kerrytravelers]

18. Ah-ha! Now, it's 9-7 USC!!!!!

Fight On for 'ol SC
Our men Fight On to victory.
Our Alma Mater dear, looks up to you
Fight On and win For 'ol SC
Fight On to victory Fight On!

[Bunny]

63. Hooray Richardo! Go Bruins!

Yoo-cla! :bounce:

[Richardo]

68. Thanks, Bunny

You are teh r0xxor!!!!1!1 :loveya:

:pals:

[Awsi Dooger]

3. I knew the Bruins would show up today

Booty has to made some plays downfield. No way SC embarrasses them in the trenches like last year at the Coliseum.

Great pics, especially of Tommy Trojan outside Bovard. I sunk some money into that place myself, although I still root for my hometown Canes more than USC.

[Kerrytravelers]

11. After last week, it's nice to see a little football being played!

Notre Dame forgot to bring their football team. I think the band was playing in their place!

[Deja Q]

8. Now that's a big red helmet!

:rofl:

[Kerrytravelers]

15. We're known for big things.

Big school.

Big tuition.

Big alumni.

Big egos.

Big scores.

Big endowments





... really, George Lucas just gave a few dozen millions just recently. What did you think I meant by endowments? :shrug: ;)

[Zomby Woof]

19. UCLA!!!!!

When choosing between the two, I must go with UCLA. I am a California partisan, so if USC wins, I will want them to pound the fuck out of Ohio State if it comes to that.

Like most southern CA families, mixed roots are the norm. Nini's uncle played basketball at USC, but her brother went to UCLA.

I am a grad of an out-of-state school, since I didn't live here during my college days. So today's it's UCLA, but tomorrow, it's whoever represents my state in the BCS! :D

[Kerrytravelers]

20. Well, so long as you root for us when we go on to the BCS!

I will love you again!

[Zomby Woof]

23. I graduated from a Div II school

Which had the #1 football team in the nation when I went there. :-) I also took some post-grad classes at the University of Washington, so I like them too. I prefer PAC-10 and SEC football teams over ANY of the Small 12 or Tiny 10 or whatever those corn-poopin' teams are from red-state hell. :D

[huskerlaw]

24. GOPisEvil says...

check you PM, damn it!

I say...those corn-poopin' teams from red-state hell could beat the shit outta your Bruins, my friend. ;)

[Zomby Woof]

28. You all are BARELY ranked

So I wouldn't bet on it. :P When the Gooners beat you later, you won't be ranked anymore! :D

Tell that Aggie that I am worth the wait! I wrote back. :D

[huskerlaw]

31. Oh, I'm sorry...

what is UCLA ranked??

:P

[Kajsa]

66. Huskerlaw, I like you.

But I've been a Bruin's fan since 1962.

I lived in West LA and worked in Westwood for years.
UCLA will always be No. 1 with me.

[Kerrytravelers]

35. Which city is Univ of Washington in again? Which mascot?

And hey, for what it's worth, what did you study there?

[SeattleGirl]

42. UW is in Seattle; mascot is a Husky dog.

:hi:

[Kajsa]

43. UCLA, BABY!

Oh yeah, Oh yeah, Oh yeah!

:bounce: :toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce:

[fishwax]

41. that was a pretty good game

exciting finish. Congrats to the Bruins on a big upset :toast:

[Kerrytravelers]

44. Well, I certainly won't toast, but I will congratulate!

I've done that at this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5903893&mesg_id=5903893



It wasn't a great game. Neither team played well at all, but UCLA simply played better.

[fishwax]

47. All it had to do to be a great game was pass the time and not go into OT

Which would keep me from seeing the kickoff of OU-Nebraska.

I thought it was an interesting game, though ... at least the second half. I missed the first half. The defenses were both playing well, and there was tension, which is all I was really hoping for since I don't have a horse in the race. I just wanted

[Kerrytravelers]

49. There was certainly tension, all right!

Cross town rivalry is the beginning.

If USC had won, they would go to the National Championships. Now, it's the Rose Bowl. UCLA is going to a bowl, but it isn't anything like the National Champs or Rose Bowl, so they had a lot to lose. Their goal was to prevent USC from going to the national Champs, which is exactly what our goal would have been had the tables been turned!

[fishwax]

52. I was afraid it might wind up a blowout

like last year (though I'm sure you would not have minded ;)). USC seemed like they really regrouped after that oregon state loss.

Though I wasn't sad to see UCLA win, I'm sorry for your loss ... sucks to lose to a rival like that. But you had a good run. And they've got to win once in a while in order to keep it a rivalry ;) :toast:

[Kerrytravelers]

54. Yeah. Blowouts aren't fun... well, unless we're playing UCLA, then it's the BEST!

And normally, Pete Carroll is able to keep them more focused under pressure. But tonight, they were off from the very beginning, you could just feel it.

[Crabby Appleton]

45. that was a pretty exciting ending

GO BUCKS!

[HughBeaumont]

46. Geeez, what a mess. Now who do the Buckeyes play?

Fla-duh or Michigan? Since no one wants a re-match, it may be the Gators, but you can't ignore Michigan.

[SeattleGirl]

48. I hate the BCS! Michigan was #3 coming into the USC/UCLA game

and since USC lost, then Michigan should play Ohio State. Who give a frig if it is a "re-match". BSC needs to disappear.

[Kerrytravelers]

50. I agree. I've always hated the BCS.

Don't even get my Dad started. He will go red in the face and needs hospitalization!

[SeattleGirl]

51. I understand. I don't usually even mention the BCS.

:grr:

[L A Woman]

53. I like the BCS

There will always be someone who is unhappy, but overall it does tend to work better than anything else. A playoff system is really out of the question in college football. The main glitch in the BCS seems to be "what happens when you have one undefeated team and a whole bunch of one-loss teams?" The BCS actually addresses that pretty well with the strength of schedule element. Now let's see how the Florida/Arkansas game pans out....if Florida wins big, I imagine they will play Ohio State on January 8. If they barely win or lose, it will be a re-match with Michigan.

And so what? The National Championship should be between the best two teams in the country. Whether or not they have already played that season should not be relevant.

[SeattleGirl]

55. Your last sentence is exactly why I hate the BCS. They can

essentially choose which team will play Ohio State, and that's just flat wrong. Michigan was rated #3; the Gaters are #4. After USC's lost, that would make Michigan #2, and Florida, #3 at the most. Thus, #1 Ohio State should play #2 Michigan. But the BCS often throws common sense and logic out the door.

[L A Woman]

58. that is not how it works

USC's loss drops them out of the picture. Michigan is #2 NOW, but the new standings don't come out until tomorrow. Florida could jump Michigan with a big win over Arkansas(which looks unlikely now). If Florida's game is unimpressive, there is no reason for them to jump Michigan and Michigan will remain #2 and likely be invited to play in the championship game. I don't see the problem at all. You are acting like the BCS is a bunch of boogeymen conspiring in a dark room...it's a system based on the performance and schedules of teams. It works pretty well, unless your team is on the losing end. :-)

[SeattleGirl]

59. We will have to agree to disagree, LA Woman

And btw, I don't think the BCS is a "bunch of boogeymen". I just think it sucks. But if you like the system, I have no problem with that. As I said, we will have to agree to disagree about it.

[Kerrytravelers]

62. I'm with you, SeattleGirl.

It's not personal, just a different preference, whether my team is coming in at number one or number 10 in the Pac 10.

And with that, I'm off to a dinner party... where there will be a UCLA fan... ah, the ribbing I'll have to endure. :rofl:

[Kerrytravelers]

61. Unless my team is on the losing end...

... well, there were many years we were no where near the winning end, and I still never heard positive comments regarding the BCS.

No reason to get snippy, it's not a personal attack here.

[Kerrytravelers]

56. It's not a rematch that is the issue.

And yes, there will always be people who are unhappy, but we simply preferred the old way. I don't see anything particularly great about the BCS, so I see no reason for the switch over, and I haven't met anyone who is really into football (meaning, they are ito the finer points and statistics rather than me, a more casual watcher) who finds it particularly great, but they are much better at going into the details and the finer points.


Edited to add: SeattleGirl made the point very well.

[L A Woman]

57. the old way?

you mean when there was NO championship game? just a bunch of bowls?

no thanks, I like this way better!

[Kerrytravelers]

60. There was still a decided National Champion.

USC has been a National Champ in the past. And we'll be there again with the BSC. I just prefer the old way. It's not a huge stake in my life one way or the other, just an opinion.

[L A Woman]

64. well, yes but it was even more nebulous....

there was no championship game and the pollsters decided who the champion was. Now what we have is a reason to watch more games than just our own team's...now I am interested in lots of games because of how they affect my team. It's awesome. I am sure there are ways it can be improved, but I do like it...

Sorry about USC, btw...