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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 01:55 AM
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Help me out here
What when wrong in the smoking conversation?

I am curious how I should have responded in order to have avoided the track that conversation took. Any input?
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 02:04 AM
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1. When it comes to smoking threads...
the best response is...nada. There is no good way to respond. One way, you'll piss of smokers. Another way, non-smokers will be upset. Try a third way and former smokers will take up arms.

:shrug:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 02:13 AM
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2. smoking? non-smoking? How DARE YOU!!!
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 02:18 AM by uppityperson
like this for example. Just one of those things. Edited to reply more in depth and seriously. What went wrong was, well, I don't want to get this post deleted, but what went wrong was someone was posting a joking thread and didn't take well to having reality pointed out. That was not you. You seemed very reasonable and responded well. Sometimes this crap happens and sometimes we learn who we want to continue discussions with. Or not. Sometimes, for some of us (me) it takes a couple smacking things to remember who I had these sort of discussions with and then not respond on other threads.

You did ok.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:16 AM
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3. heh...
that's because smoking = sex, and sex threads aren't allowed.

Sex is SMOKING!
at least when it's good...
at least that's what I've heard...

:evilgrin:

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 03:19 AM
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4. Q: Do you smoke after sex?
A; I don't know. I never looked.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 05:09 AM
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5. seemed like a well worn flame war to me
smokers vs. non smokers. Standard arguments 1) automobile pollution is as bad or worse, 2) some smokers live a long time, 3) some non smokers get cancer or Lou Gehrig's disease, etc.

It's a very touchy subject for smokers. Some people, and perhaps their friends, took umbrage at your joke last night. Apparently you needed the :sarcasm: smiley although it was quite obviously a joke to me. Perhaps there is another underlying dynamic going on with the fact that your return was celebrated and the ruling silverbacks felt threatened.

Once it became personal, and I am not sure who drew first blood there, but you fanned the flames as well. Counter attacks like "get over yourselves" are never going to be appreciated. Another example would be here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5919881&mesg_id=5920312

haruka's comment to you was not nasty, but your reply was.

But I have to stop because I clearly have little knowledge about how to make friends as my "end road work" thread showed with it's two whopping replies, but one way to avoid a track is to let your detractors have the last word. Some of it is the perception thing. Once people have decided that they do not like you, they will find something to not like in anything you say. "If you like somebody, they can dump a plate of spaghetti in your lap and you will laugh. If you don't like somebody, the way they hold their fork infuriates you."
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 05:46 AM
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6. Locking...
The thread is a continuation of a flame war and is against the Rules; please, let's not go there.

Sincerely,
buddhamama- DU Mod
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