Which of these Puppy food ingredients list is the best?

[xultar]

1. Ingredients
Chicken meal, chicken, corn gluten meal, brewers rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), brown rice, dried egg product, beet pulp (sugar removed), natural chicken flavor, brewer's yeast, salmon oil, potassium chloride, sodium silico aluminate, rice hulls, fructo-oligosaccharides, salt, choline chloride, salmon meal, dried apples, dried blueberries, taurine, vitamin E supplement, brewers yeast extract (Saccharomyces cerevisiae fermentation solubles), ascorbic acid, flax seed, marigold extract, monosodium phosphate, folic acid supplement, zinc oxide, iron sulfate, manganese proteinate, biotin, sage, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, calcium pantothenate, dried ginger, garlic, copper sulfate, manganous oxide, vitamin A supplement, rosemary extract, pyroxidine hydrochloride, sodium selenite, niacin supplement, riboflavin supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12 supplement, calcium iodate, vitamin D3 supplement.

2. Ingredients
Whole grain corn, corn gluten meal, whole grain wheat, chicken by-product meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), soybean meal, brewers rice, meat and bone meal, beef, pearled barley, sugar, sorbitol, fish oil, calcium phosphate, animal digest, salt, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, sorbic acid (a preservative), dried peas, dried carrots, L-Lysine monohydrochloride, calcium propionate (a preservative), added color (Red 40, Yellow 5, Blue 2), Vitamin E supplement, choline chloride, brewers dried yeast, zinc sulfate, zinc proteinate, ferrous sulfate, niacin, manganese sulfate, manganese proteinate, Vitamin A supplement, calcium carbonate, DL-Methionine, Vitamin B-12 supplement, calcium pantothenate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, thiamine mononitrate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin D-3 supplement, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity), calcium iodate, folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite.

I'm having some confusion about what I was told.

Cross posting in pet forum.

[sweetheart]

1. tins of oily fish

a chicken, beef bones from the butcher... these 'dog foods' are the crap parts
that humans won't eat. You can't go wrong by feeding a young pup proper food
whilst it is doubling in size, as the bulk of body mass the animal is growing
will be affected by cancers or whatever is in the extra chemicals in the food,
and you extend its life by giving it a natural diet during that period.

Other things for a growing pup: whole cow milk, yoghurt, carrots.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

2. The 2nd one is absolute shit.

Primarially corn and not meat, preservatives, artificial coloring.

Although, if you really want to feed it the right diet (if I remember correctly, you have chiahauas, so it won't be too pricey) feed them a raw diet. Look up BARF (Biologically Appropriate Raw Food).

[xultar]

3. I found a great type of food that comes dry Dr Harvey...check this out

Requires some preparation, but don’t worry, it’s not preparing Thanksgiving dinner for your dog every night. In fact, Canine Health only takes 8 minutes, and it only requires boiling water, and a little commitment. But, what a difference it will make in your dog’s life.


Ingredients: Organic Brown Rice Flakes, Organic Kamut Flakes, Organic Spelt Flakes, Organic Rolled Oats, Organic Barley Flakes, Organic Triticale Flakes, Sweet Potatoes*, Carrots*, Potatoes*, Zucchini*, Peas**, Green Beans*, Beets*, Broccoli*, Parsley Leaf, Lecithin Granules, Garlic Granules, Bee Pollen Granules, Nutritional Yeast Flakes, Alfalfa Leaf, Rose Hips*, Red Clover Blossoms*, Oat Straw*, Flax Seed Meal*, Papaya Leaf*, Rosemary Leaf*, Dandelion Root*, Peppermint Leaf*, Ginger Root*, Spirulina*, Fenugreek*, Basil Leaf, Fennel Seed.


*Dehydrated
**Freeze Dried

The only reason I don't use it is because I travel quite a bit and it is very inconvenient.

[Karenca]

7. Dogs need meat.

There's no protein in that mix. Don't feed this to your dog.

[xultar]

8. You cook and add the meat. That's part of the prep.

[Karenca]

10. Okay then. But you would still be better off then just cooking the meat

and adding some type of vegetable like carrots.

But really, a dog should eat raw meat.

And there's no preparation involved.

[xultar]

11. True but I travel so much. When I take the kids raw meat isn't something

I can often grab and feed.

[Karenca]

13. Sometimes when it's inconvenient to feed my furbabies the raw

meat, I'll feed them freeze dried 100% meat patties
or freeze dried chicken bits, etc.

Most pet stores carry it.

[xultar]

14. I'll look into it for sure. Thanks for the tips.

[China_cat]

4. See my post in the pets group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=243&topic_id=22638&mesg_id=22641

[yewberry]

5. Wow, don't use #2.

Have you considered California Natural? We use
this one and we've been pretty happy with it.

Good luck--hope you find what you need!

[xultar]

9. Thanks. It's a long story but I knew #2 was bad but someone told me to use it.

[yewberry]

12. "Someone" is giving you bad advice.

I'm glad to hear that you're taking the time to think carefully about it.
:hi:

[flvegan]

6. The second one is ghastly.

Any time an ingredient is called "animal ___" then it's bad news.

You might consider Wysong Growth:

Dry Diet Ingredients: Chicken, Chicken Giblets, Ground Corn, Ground Wheat, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Oat Groats, Poultry Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols as a source of vitamin E), Eggs, Plums, Dried Wheat Grass Powder, Dried Barley Grass Powder, Whey, Dried Yogurt, Lecithin, Citric Acid, Natural Extractives of Sage, Natural Extractives of Rosemary, Dried Kelp, Fish Oil, Salt, Garlic, Black Pepper, Artichoke, L-Carnitine, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus casei Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus lactis Fermentation Product, Dried Saccharomyces cerevisiae Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus oryzae Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus niger Fermentation Product, Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement

Analysis: Protein 26%, Fat 14%, Fiber 4%, Moisture 12%

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