Lautremont
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:39 PM
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True or false: No reputable doctor would prescribe cigarettes. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 06:44 PM by Lautremont
This strikes me as a true and reasonable statement, but I'm not an expert on the matter. Thoughts?
on edit: Taking another look at this post, I see I'm being needlessly confusing. Sorry. The cigarette prescription in question had nothing to do with smoking addiction - prescribee is not even a smoker.
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:40 PM
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1. What if the patient was jonesing for tobacco? |
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:41 PM
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2. Mine suggested I switch to natural tobacco (n/t) |
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:42 PM
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I shouldn't quit unless I was really ready to. He said if I wasn't ready, I wouldn't quit for good.
I haven't stopped yet but I really want to. I just don't feel like now is the time but when is the time? :shrug:
It's so hard to quit. I am so addicted.
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:56 PM
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7. one smoker to another -- |
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there's never a ''right time''.
them's just the brakes.
a few years a go i had quit fo a year -- the patch and welbutrin.
then i went to europe.
drugs REALLEY do help.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:01 PM
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10. I quit for a year and a half |
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from 19 until I turned 21 and started going out to the bars. Then I started again and I haven't stopped.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:03 PM
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11. Good advice. I don't think you WANT to quit. |
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I think you WANT to want to quit. You WISH you wanted to quit. But you don't really want to. And you feel guilty about not wanting to.
I kinda useta feel the same way. Except I decided not to feel guilty about it anymore. I probably would be at least marginally better off if I quit. But I don't WANT to. Will it shorten my life? Maybe. And I could get hit by a dump truck tomorrow. Or blown away by a mad gunman at the mall.
How bad would that be? You suffer through 3 or 4 days of cold turkey, and THEN get wiped out by a dump truck. Maybe you'd live just long enough to think "GOD, I wish I had a cigarette." Screw it.
As a physician friend is fond of saying, "Life is a terminal disease. Not only that, it's sexually transmitted".
Live, love, and do what makes you feel good. :-)
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:12 PM
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13. I kind of don't want to quit right now. |
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Which is why I know it's not time for me to quit yet. I do enjoy it, as bad as that sounds.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:39 PM
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at some point it has to be about resisting temptation.
i.e. one is too many -- and so on and so forth.
i knew that -- and slipped anyway.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:07 PM
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12. you will know when it is time, or when youre ready |
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when i quit, i was just so fucking sick of it, sick of myself, frustrated with the habit, the cigarettes didn't even feel good or taste good anymore. i knew it was time, and so far, i haven't smoked another since- i quit at the end of last march
the fact that you want to quit is important, you just got to work on it from there
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:12 PM
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14. I hope I get to where you're at. |
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:19 PM
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16. i'm sure you will someday :) |
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:hug:
it takes time and patience and it made me gain weight lol, but i feel better. :)
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:22 PM
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19. Did you go cold turkey? |
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:33 PM
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every time i tried to quit by cutting down, i was never able to quit... and gum and patches cost even more then the cigarettes i was buying....
i got very very drunk every night for the first few days and ate a lot of comfort food (it shows lol). i was getting drunk in my home with no smokers around me though so it wasnt so bad, as far as drinking making me want to smoke. generally when i was smoking and all the only reason i smoked so much while i was drinking was because seeing *others* light up made me want to light up- i just didnt have any smoking in my home until i felt i could handle being around it and even then i took baby steps.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:41 PM
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28. You had a very good plan. |
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Edited on Mon Dec-11-06 07:42 PM by bigwillq
I need to take myself away from the bar scene. I tend to go to the bar every night after work because I am wired from working and I know if I go straight home, I won't be able to go to sleep. I smoke a lot when drinking and out at the bar.
The thing for me is that I don't smoke inside anywhere. I have to go outside at my home, work, my man's house, etc...I think it's harder that way because I am not used to smoking inside any way. It's kind of like a treat for me...if I go outside, then I can smoke.
I was that way with pot like you were with cigs. I decided I needed to stop smoking pot so I removed myself from everyone and everywhere that people smoked pot. I didn't return until I knew I can handle being around pot smokers but not actually smoking it myself. After a few months, I was able to do that and be in the same room with pot smokers and not care that I wasn't smoking.
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:44 PM
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4. Why would cigarettes need to be prescribed? Anyone can go |
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down to the 7/11 and buy them over the counter. Or am I reading this too literally?
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:45 PM
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5. Technically true, because you don't need a doctor's prescription to purchase tobacco or t-products |
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However, if you want to discuss the theraputic use of nicotine that would be a different matter. Not a doctor, but I am unaware of any theraputic use of nicotine in any case...
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:30 PM
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22. Anti-Alzheimer's drug. |
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:48 PM
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I'm 65 and have smoked for about 45 years. She said that since I showed no indications of COPD, or anything like that, and since I don't WANT to quit, then it would be futile to try and possibly INCREASE my risk of hypertension, stroke, and heart attack.
Ha. Ha.
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Mon Dec-11-06 06:59 PM
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8. can you get me a referral for YOUR doc? |
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i'm tired of mine giving me shit x(
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:19 PM
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15. I'll give you shit about it if you want. That might save you money, too. |
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:20 PM
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17. but there is more to the job |
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you have to put on the glove TOO!
*it's my favorite part* :rofl:
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:37 PM
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26. you are SUCH a fuckin perv! |
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Mon Dec-11-06 08:01 PM
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35. No, that's okay, besides most doctors don't do that... |
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but every few years unless you are my age... or they enjoy it.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:25 PM
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20. And I want a referal for a doc who believes in a minimum daily gin allowance |
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You know, a *real* doctor, not one of these neuveau health freak doctors. I want one of those old-style doctors who smoke in the examination room and gave his older male patients a shot of borboun during the exam.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:51 PM
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Rx: "Patient: Rabrrrrr Dosage: 2-3 oz. Take by mouth, as necessary. May be diluted with quinine beverage or other as desired. Need not be taken with food. Repeat until symptoms are alleviated."
Dr. U. R. Friend
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:37 PM
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25. Tell him/her to eff off. |
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And then lay the "Life, itself, is a sexually transmitted terminal disease." on 'em. :-)
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:26 PM
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21. does quitting increase your risk of a stroke? |
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Is it just a shock to your system or something? I'm confused. Nothing about any kind of withdrawal would surprise me though, people don't take it seriously enough. My cousin is 37 and just had either a triple or quadruple bypass. COPD is lungs as far as I know, what about your heart...can they test your as far as arteriosclerosis and all that?
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:35 PM
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24. Just had a carotid ultrasound scan. CAFB*. |
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*Clear As a Fucking Bell. For a 65 year old white male, slightly overweight (down from OBESE a year ago), I am DISGUSTINGLY healthy. Not 'healthy for a smoker'. HEALTHY.
Sorry to disappoint everyone. ;-)
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:41 PM
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it could be genetic. Truth be told you are probably healthier than me and my cousin. My family on that side has very bad genetics. The other side, the Ulster Scots, are damn near indestructible. My cousin had all the tests run and they told her she was crazy, then she went somewhere and had one run, maybe the one you passed, and they rushed her to the hospital and told her if she smoked another cigarette she might die. She had the surgery, and now she is smoking again. I think she has alot of nerve problems and she's been smoking since she was 14 years old so there is alot of stuff that comes up for her when she tries to quit. It's a hell of a habit to break. I couldn't even tell you how many times I've quit. I'm not smoking right now but if it is between that and doing worse things I'll pick up cigarettes every time. I never smoke that long because they make me miserable eventually though.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:45 PM
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30. 'Zackly! In the end, genes is the whole story. |
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Why do people smoke into their 80s and 90s and not get lung cancer? Why do smokers in their 30s get it? Why do people who have never smoked, and never been around smokers, get lung cancer? Like my mother-in-law? I'm convinced it's genetic.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:57 PM
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34. my one great uncle lived to about 80 |
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smoked from about the age of 10 or so til then, drank from his teens onward. His brother died in his 50's or 60's not having smoked for a while or drank very heavily. Of course the younger brother contributed alot more to society than the older one, who was a drunk and a roustabout.
I bet statistically you are a miracle though. I know I'm screwed...I've probaby damaged my body quite a bit with alcohol although I quit in my early twenties, had pneumonia three times, the last time ending up in the hospital for two weeks. One of the main motivators for me not to smoke is vanity, because it wrecks your skin. On females you can really tell a difference later on. I can in mine, though it's not as bad as it could be, certainly, probably because I don't have the stress of eating meat which can also be really hard on your skin. I think they should totally push the vanity angle with young kids to keep them off cigarettes. I can't afford to smoke right now, even if I wanted to. I only do it when I am at risk of screwing up in other, far more stupid ways.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:00 PM
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I mean, seriously, did a doctor really prescribe cigarettes? I don't think I get it.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:48 PM
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31. I think it was for anxiety management or something. |
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But I would think, particularly up here in marginally more pot-friendly Canada, that marijuana would be the more sensible prescription. And because the patient is a non-smoker. What's it worth to get someone hooked?
Anyway, this is all pretty much third-hand, so it's possible I've got something bass-ackwards. I just wondered if it was common.
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Mon Dec-11-06 07:55 PM
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33. People with inflammatory bowel diseases can affect the disease |
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by smoking, and many of them smoke. This is well known to doctors. So, if its a person having a "flare" of their disease and they are already a smoker, I can imagine a doctor telling them to smoke.
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