A personal poll: What % of DUers are totally out of touch with reality?

[kentuck]

This is only a personal opinion poll and should not be taken as proof of anything...

[Ellis Wyatt]

1. DU This Poll!!!!

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[bryant69]

2. I would plug it at between 15 and 20%

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Quantess]

12. Why do you keep hyping this link? (EOM)

[bryant69]

16. I'm what's called a blog whore

That's my blog and I want people to look at it because I'm self-aggrandizing and full of myself.

Bryant

[liberaldemocrat7]

17. A cross section of Republican plants at DU do not see reality well.

Like any large organization there appears a group of disruptors. So a cross section of DU does not see reality well.

[bryant69]

18. If only we could identify these plants

and bring them to the moderators attention - than we could get rid of them, and our collective ability to see reality would go

Witch Hunts aren't all bad.

Bryant

[Quantess]

20. Nothing wrong with that, but,

It confused me because I assumed the link had a specific point you wanted to make in a particular post. No need to get defensive. I'm just letting you know it's confusing.:)

[gratuitous]

3. Banana!

Me? Totally in touch. What's that nurse? Time for my meds? Again? Okay!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

4. 41-60%

The lack of basic political knowledge of how the system actually works doesn't help.

[blondeatlast]

10. This place could use a serious lesson in House and Senate procedure and protocol.

Perhaps some of the unlearned will become enlightened when far less crappy legislation get through in the near future. There's always hope, aleays hope...

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

13. I've been too busy lately, but..

I plan on writing a lengthy post in the near future about how a bill REALLY becomes a law. And I don't mean the simplified, completely incorrect textbook version most people know. I mean, from inception, to the REAL role of lobbyists, to procedural votes, and so forth.

As a lobbyist, I find it unceasingly sad that the vast majority of Americans, even those whom are very educated, have no idea what role we play. They don't understand what we do or, worse, have a gross misconception that all we do is bribe for "special interests", which couldn't be further from the truth. Even worse, I don't think they understand the important role Congressional and Committee staffers play in getting things done. It's far greater than most realize, and what is and is not included in laws, in a lot of cases, can have everything to do with a staffer merely changing jobs or being on a honeymoon.

At any rate, it's something I've been meaning to get to for quite some time, but I haven't had much chance to even think lately, much less write something that long. Hopefully, I will be able to do so in the near future.

[NoPasaran]

21. A bit of Who's Who wouldn't hurt either

I got pretty tired of posts complaining that Rahm did nothing to Lamont.

[WilliamPitt]

30. My favorite this week

was someone bellowing at Pelosi to go fuck herself over an issue regarding SCOTUS nominations.

Except the Senate does that.

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

33. Damn, I missed that one.

On second thought, mercifully, I missed that one.

[hfojvt]

19. But that makes for being 'totally' out of touch with reality?

Can't a person believe a few impossible things and still be at least a little bit in touch? I would not even say that people who believe that $100,000 a year income is NOT rich are TOTALLY out of touch with reality. Maybe a little bit, but not totally.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

22. A few, sure.

But we're really talking about a gross and widespread lack of education here.

[WilliamPitt]

29. That was my vote

[bigtree]

everyone learns at different speeds

DU is a learning experience. We have many promising, potential realists. Give 'em (us) time.

Reach one, teach one.

[havocmom]

15. "Reach one, teach one" Excellent! Easier to teach if one doesn't start with put downs too.

There is a fair bit of fuzzy logic and too many pair of rose colored glasses around here, but not everybody reaches enlightenment at the same rate. Give us time, indeed.

When the corporatists have spent so many resources hiding the truth, it takes a while to get the crowd to see what is out there.

And it is true that some people CAN'T handle the truth. They are not all freepers either. People have limits on what they can deal with. Some have very low pain tolerance and truth hurts.

[xchrom]

5. what's this 'reality' you speak of?

[OneBlueSky]

6. no offense intended, but I think a lot of the posts that might lead one to believe . . .

that the poster is "out of touch with reality" come from younger members who simply haven't had much life experience yet . . . and since understanding reality generally comes from life experience, their posts may sometimes seem a bit out of touch . . .

those of us who have been on the planet for awhile have just seen and experienced a lot more and, hopefully, have a firmer grasp on "things as they are" -- and a well developed conscience to imagine how things might be . . .

again, no offense to our younger members intended . . . just a personal observation . . .

[katsy]

7. I'll reserve judgment...

until someone can demonstrate the value of DUers that volunteer their time during elections, collect news that msm seems to ignore in one convenient place, show their generosity to other DUers as well as charities (Katrina, Harvest), lend an ear to people who otherwise are isolated, turned one or more people's opinion favorably to the Democratic party, contact lawmakers to make their opinions known, interpret findings scientific, economic and otherwise that others find difficult, share info & blog sites. I'm sure I've left out much.

It depends on your interpretation of reality I guess.



:shrug:

[treestar]

14. Show their generosity assumes they are all at least

middle class, which could be inaccurate.

Also being retired helps in having time for all this.

I'm sure everyone does the best they can, but their criteria should be their own.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. All reality is local. (With apologies to Tip O'neil).

Saying 'All is delusion' or 'The world is delusion' is by implication saying illusion/delusion IS, that is, that it exists, that it has it's own independent existence, existing independently without need. Dependent origination on the other hand, implies there can be absolutely nothing whatsoever that is real or eternal behind this actual world and beyond the interdependence of everything. Because of that interdependence all that exists is inherently empty. It can be argued on the conventional level there is causation that could or would back up illusion/delusion, but because causation has no inherent existence either, neither then could or would illusion/delusion. To perceive that causation DOES have inherent existence is what is called ignorance. Perceiving that LACK of causation in inherent existence is wisdom.

Almost everybody that reads a little about Zen starts thinking that NOTHING exists because everything is inherently empty, so what we perceive as reality must be delusion. But emptiness is the absence of independent existence. What that means is SOMETHING must exist and one of the qualifications of that existence is emptiness...the absence of independent existence is only possible because there is SOMETHING that exists...otherwise there would be no 'need' for the absence of independent existence, and if there was no absence of independent existence, then everything would not be empty.

Hope that clears it all up.

Note: Taken from a Zen website.

[Annces]

9. what is your definition of being in touch with reality?

I don't understand the criteria.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. 41-60%

[KoKo]

23. Reality about what....didn't understand the poll....???? n/t

[JNelson6563]

24. Maybe if there were less

crap threads (not to mention replies) like popularity contests, what's your weather like?, do you drink?, smokers suck!, and all other manner of idiocy~~well who's to say DUers might not be viewed as a bit more, how to say....in possession of a clue?

Just sayin'

Julie

[shadowknows69]

25. Is "this poll sucks" required as an answer yet on DU polls?

I think this one proves it should be lol. Much love Kentuck!

[LSK]

26. I think theres a problem sometimes with folks in a bubble

Some folks cannot see the point of view of someone else. They cannot see anything from someone else's perspectives.

[kentuck]

27. Hmmm...

I thought this was a very instructive poll? :)

[Little Wing]

28. I read this thread and it made me cry

:cry:

[Tikki]

31. Since all known reality is shown in...

hour long segments weekly on television and I don't watch it...
I am 100% out of touch with reality.



Tikki

[applegrove]

32. 10 to 20%..but I think they are freepers in disguise... LOL

[jobycom]

34. Judging from the answers, you need a "I don't understand the question" response

and I think choice would give you the percentage you are seeking. :)

[blondeatlast]

35. Keep in mind this was originally posted in GD this AM and I think

the point becomes a bit clearer!

[flvegan]

36. Reality changed his number. Many folks lost touch. It's sad.

Reality...phone home.

[LynneSin]

37. 99.999999% of DUers are out of touch - everyone but me

I'm the only one who makes sense - agree with me or you're a damn freeper

:hide:

[Tyrone Slothrop]

38. I'm convinced that a large portion of folks here haven't set foot

outside their dwelling for a considerable period of time.

[underpants]

39. Well I've never bought a home but I think I have a good handle on realty

BTW- you sort of switch the responses away from the question and then switched it back again.

Honestly you can't expect us to keep up with that.

[eppur_se_muova]

40. Where's the 200% option? Man, if you don't include the 200%, it means NOTHING! nt