How late is "too late" for people to blast loud music in an apartment living situation?

[ncrainbowgrrl]

I ask this as the recipient of the loud music/partying/bass being emitted from some apartment near me.

Keeping in mind that I have a migraine, and perhaps am being less than forgiving to the sounds of bass throbbing as I'm in a dark room trying to rest, I put this question to you, my fellow DUers... who may be a bit more fair and balanced than I can be at the moment

[YellowRubberDuckie]

1. 10.

I go to bed at ten at the latest because I have to get up for work m-f. If you're blasting your music after this or making racket, I'm calling the concierge on you or I'm going to bang on your door and be less than nice. It's rude to your neighbors, and is one of my biggest pet peeves.
Duckie

[ncrainbowgrrl]

2. thanks.

:hi:

I'm about 10minutes and 2 migraine abortive pills past "nice" at this point. :grr:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

4. Call the cops if you don't have security in your place.

I would have done it a long time ago. But then again, I'm a bitch. :evilgrin:
Duckie

[LeftyMom]

Legally, ten.

Ideally, eight or so, if any neighbors have young kids, and nine or so otherwise.

Edit: I used to manage an apartment building. Here's a better legal answer. You have a legal right to "quiet enjoyment" (that's the key phrase in the legal precedents on the matter) of your apartment at all times. Your neighbor never has the right to listen to music loudly enough to intrude on that. As a practical matter, the cops won't care until it's late most places, but your property manager should always be willing to deal with the issue before you ever have to call the law. Write a written complaint if it's not dealt with, a verbal one means nothing.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

5. oh goodie. now the neighbors downstairs are smoking and being LOUD on the patio.

Why me? :cry:

[graywarrior]

3. 10 pm.

[begin_within]

6. Call the cops now, what are you waiting for? They can go somewhere else to make their noise.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

8. DONE!

Thanks.

[begin_within]

10. Good for you... and don't feel a bit guilty if they give you dirty looks tomorrow.

Happy Holidays!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

12. Thanks! Happy Holidays!

Mine just got a whole lot better- the noise seems to have abated. :woohoo:

[UTUSN]

7. Cops say there is NO cut-off time, that you can call ANYTIME

If it bothers you, it bothers you. You might be a night worker who needs to sleep in the afternoon, or WHATEVER.

[skygazer]

9. I think ten is eminently reasonable

And I so sympathise - it must sound like a jackhammer with a migraine. :hug:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

11. Yeah, it's certainly not making things better.

I could go sleep on the couch- away from the noise, but I'm going to be sore as heck tomorrow if I do that.

[Nicole]

13. I hope your migraine goes away soon.

I'm surprised you are on the computer with one. The light from my computer screen makes my migraines worse, I could never be online with one.

Rest easy. :)

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. Past any time that is marked on a clock.

There's no reason, ever, and no appropriate time, ever, for anyone to play music loud enough for their neighbors to hear it, whether it's a house, apartment, car, or the shitwipe low-class fuckbag blasting hip-hop on his headphones on the bus.

[wickerwoman]

16. Preach it brother...

my ex-neighbors used to blast the frickin' Carpenters out of speakers set up in his window while he worked on his car in the parking lot. It was eleven in the morning but how bloody obnoxious can you be?

[MissMillie]

22. yep

If you're my neighbor and I know what music you like, you're playing it too loud

there are headphones for those of you who like to break your eardrums.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

30. Hmm... I don't know

I do think one should be somewhat forgiving on weekends. That's not to say they should be free to blast music all night, but I think midnight is a reasonable time for them to stop.

[Rabrrrrrr]

43. No. One should not leave it to others to be "forgiving" about one's assholery.

One should just not be an asshole. And playing your music loud enough that a neighbor can hear it is the height of assholery.

And midnight is ridiculously late for being such an asshole.

But then, an asshole, of course, doesn't care about his/her neighbors, and so midnight will seem very reasonable, if not early, to an asshole.

[blondeatlast]

53. Word. Same goes for the damn car, too.

Zoning laws exist for a good reason and residential ones should be strictly enforced, IMHO.

[mykpart]

15. Pretty sure most leases specify 10:00 pm.

Check with landlord or apt. mgr.

[MrSlayer]

17. Where is the "If it's too loud, you're too old" option?

Let em go, it's the holidays. Go join the party.

[Penndems]

18. Our county has an ordinance

No loud music after 11:00 p.m.

[leeroysphitz]

19. WHAT!?!? n/t

[Redneck Socialist]

20. If I can hear it it's too loud, whatever the time. n/t

[MoseyWalker]

23. that was going to be my reply eom

[astral]

21. I have mixed feelings on this

Where I live all the neighbors are quiet as mice except for an occasional live band on weekends at a place nearby which is a good thing because they'd cater to young people having a place to go party and be safe.

So I like the peace and quiet, but on the other hand I have a stereo I pretty much never play anymore, or if I want moderate volume I'll turn it up a bit on a weekend afternoon and then usually not for more than an hour at the most, and usually less than once a month, lately!

It would be nice if people who liked to party it up and had tolerance of each other's noise could live in the same complex and people who liked a peaceful existence could live together in a different area.

In a perfect world!

I think, though, if it's a weekend, and they're not noisy all the time, some flexibility and tolerance is in order but of course that depends on how loud you're talking about.

[chknltl]

24. You left out :"NEVER"

Sorry but I think that forcing one's music on others uninvited is rude! Checking with those who are about to be subjagated to the party PRIOR to that party is the better plan. It is called "Respecting ones neighbors" .

[Rosemary2205]

48. I'm with you.

If someone wants to vibrate their teeth with megabass more power to them. But blasting my teeth with it just really isn't necessary.


I feel that way about power bass in cars too.

[cwydro]

25. I picked 10.

but on the weekends, I might cut someone some slack till 11 or even 12. But that is it. And I always have those silicone earplugs you can buy at the drugstore. They work like magic. Check 'em out.

[u4ic]

26. Here, by law, 11pm

However, I've always found building/property managers more than willing to tell the offending party to keep it down, and if it happens again, that I should keep on reporting them. It's worked the vast majority of the time.

But definitely the lease is a good first start.

[Control-Z]

27. 12:00 on Fri and Sat nights -

10:00 on weeknights, by law, where I live.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

28. I don't know

I guess since it's Saturday I'd say midnight.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

29. I don't know

I guess since it's Saturday I'd say midnight.

[Heidi]

31. 8 p.m. in most of Switzerland, Monday through Saturday. Silence on Sundays and

holidays. :hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

32. Freakin' commies.

;) :hi:

[Heidi]

33. Hi, my friend.

:hug: How's your Christmas Eve so far? :hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

34. Pretty good.

About to go to sleep though (5 AM here in NYC) because I'm visiting my parents in a few hours, since they came here to visit me. Christmas Eve is also their 34th wedding anniversary.

:D

[Heidi]

35. Congratulations to your parents for such a long marriage

and such a fine son. :hi:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. Thanks!

:blush:

But I'm quite overrated. ;)

BTW, how old did you think I was? I recall you saying you were surprised I was younger than you thought in a thread a few days ago.

[Heidi]

37. I just thought you were older

because you're so articulate and seem to have a better grasp of "grown-up" behavior than I had at 26. I didn't hit my stride until I was about 32. :D

[Starbucks Anarchist]

39. Oh.

I thought I just looked older or something. :rofl:

I guess I am more reserved than most of my peers, though. :D

[Heidi]

41. If that had been the case,

I probably wouldn't have mentioned it at all. :P

[Starbucks Anarchist]

42. Ha!

All right, I gotta get to sleep. Good night, Heidi! :hug:

[Skittles]

38. 10 PM, unless they have contacted the neighbors

and invited them to said party :)

[Heidi]

40. Yep. It's supposed to be 8 p.m. here, but the village clerk (aka "Sandra, the Enforcer")

lives on our road, and she breaks the 8 p.m. rule every summer with her party-'til-5 a.m. birthday bash, but she invites the whole town to it, so no one minds much (except the neighborhood cats and dogs). :hi:

[bikebloke]

44. A vote for Never

When people are living so close together, everyone has an obligation to consider how their actions might affect those around them. There are people who work shifts, who might be resting, might be trying to concentrate, whatever. Shoving your your music or television down the throats of others in inexcusable. I had a test before headphones became common: I'd turn my music on at what I thought was a moderate volume. Then I'd go into another room and close the door. If I could hear the music in there, then I assumed the music would also penetrate the walls. Of course now I use headphones.

Right now, I'm in a noisy situation.. I moved into this flat over the summer. After the last place it was peaceful. The come Oktober, the upstairs neighbour went apeshit. All evening; all night. Full volume and bass. I was going to work sleep deprived and stressed out. Also, making unnecessary mistakes. The polite diplomatic mode of getting the to quiet down isn't working, so I'm about to go militant and bang on their door, delivering harsh words. And if they cause me to lose my job, they'll rue the day music was ever invented.

[Courtesy Flush]

46. Agreed

The OP was really asking "what are acceptable hours for rude behavior?" There are no acceptable hours for blasting music to unwilling neighbors.

Those of you who do it, please stop as of today. I know you think your music is the best thing since sliced bread, but it is extremely rude to force it on others. Even people who share your tastes in music can't enjoy it when it's coming through walls. It only sounds good to YOU, and is a nuisance to others.

[ariesgem]

51. I agree. As an apartment manager,

I have it written in the lease agreement to where tenants are entiled to quiet enjoyment at all times (cannot annoy, disturb, incovenience or intefere with the quiet enjoyment of other tenants or nearby residents).

During daytime hours, I have tenants who work from home, work the graveyard shift (they sleep during the day), tenants who put their babies to sleep and tenants who just want peace & quiet.

For me, there is no "acceptable hour" for this kind of behavior.

[ashling]

45. I would say 9:00

[acmavm]

47. I believe we have a local ordinance covering matters like this. The

hours when you have no right to infringe on the peace and quiet of your neighbors around here are from 10:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m.

[imperial jedi]

49. It's always too late.

Basic rule for me is if I can hear your music it's too loud. I need peace and quiet.

[BikeWriter]

50. When my pistol is loaded!

[Maraya1969]

52. I posted this last night while my neighbors were having a fiesta.

After calling the police twice the noise finally stopped.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=5983337&mesg_id=5983337

[BlueCollar]

54. I'm with Ashling

9:00 PM...some people have to work...I start at 0500...

[blondeatlast]

55. Can someone please explain the need for music so loud it disturbs the neighbors anyway?

Look, I love going to clubs and dancing, but the best parties I've attended had good music played at a level friendly to conversation, yet at a sufficient volume to allow dancing as well.

I don't understood the need for loud music outside a club or concert hall (for that matter, inside one as well--I just excuse that because it is a zone designed for such a purpose). I'm willing to drive to a place that is zoned to allow festivities without keeping the next-door overworked new mom frazzled.

I like to go to clubs, love to dance, but I go into zones that allow that--so why subject the neighbors to that horrendous low bass (a particular peeve since I can't even hear the melody with it) or Fitty-Cent or Toby Keith or (your particular pet peeve here)?

It's truly something I've never understood. I grew up loving X, Siouxsie and the Banshees, PIL, the Pretenders, etc, so I'm no stranger to the joys of good loud music, but it has a place--and my bedroom at 2 AM isn't it.

Is there any rational explanation for this phenomenon? My parents threw plenty of parties in the sixties and I don't remember them playing the music so loud one couldn't converse. OTOH, I know it isn't anywhere near a recent phenomenon, so, :shrug:?