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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:02 AM
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***World Trade Center***
Run, don't walk to see this film........

Without question, the best Oliver Stone film ever....

I kid you not........

Incredible film..........

:cry:


:patriot:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:11 AM
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1. I cried through most of it.
Edited on Wed Dec-27-06 01:12 AM by nytemare
The sound effects in the theatre were quite jarring, and real.

At the end, I was quite pissed that we became so concerned with Iraq when Bin Laden is still floating around.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:13 AM
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2. My dear nytemare..........
I cried through quite a lot of it......

And I saw it at home.......no surround sound either........

Just extremely well done movie-making.......

:hug:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:44 AM
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3. It was well done.
I found myself happy for the two they got out, and angry at the lack of justice after the whole ordeal.


:hi:

On a side, I hope you had a good holiday.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:52 AM
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4. I had a terrific holiday.......thanks!
:hi:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 01:54 AM
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5. Good!
:D
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:37 AM
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13. at home?? is it on dvd? nt
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:39 AM
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15. My dear asSEENonTV!
Yes, I did see it at home, just tonight!

It just became available on DVD, just before Christmas.......

:hi:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:05 AM
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6. It was a fantastic film.
So was United 93, in a much different way.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:11 AM
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7. My dear Common Sense Party........
Really, it was.......

I can't watch the film United 93 yet.......That's a bit too hard, still...

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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:46 PM
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26. It was hard, maddening, infuriating, and painful...
Yet necessary, for me. I think our country is losing the anger over what happened--and didn't happen--that day.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:11 AM
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8. Even better than JFK?
Because that one was a classic, IMO. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:20 AM
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9. My dear Starbucks Anarchist!
That was also a very good film....

But IMHO, this one was waaaay better.......

Oliver Stone concentrated on two families here........

And he interwove their stories with the larger one of the attacks....

It was extremely effective! Very moving.........Very gripping......

I give it my highest recommendation!

:hi:
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:21 AM
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10. I'll have to check it out.
Thanks for the tip. :hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:24 AM
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11. Ah, you're most welcome!
You will not be sorry......:hi: back atcha!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 07:31 PM
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35. got the DVD for Christmas. I LOVE JFK
It's one of the movies where I cry at the end EVERY single time
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 10:05 AM
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38. Easily one of the best films of the 90s, IMHO.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:34 AM
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12. thanks for the recommendation--
just sign me

always looking for a good film:P



:hug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:37 AM
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14. My dear wildhorses!
Be sure to have lots of kleenex along! I did get pretty weepy.....

But it is not to be missed....truly!

:hug:
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:14 AM
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16. I was in Manhattan on Sept. 11th...
and to this day cannot watch footage - or an adaptation of footage - from that day.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:16 AM
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17. My dear Writer..........
Then you should most definitely stay away from this film.......

I am sorry.......that must have been horrific in the extreme...:hug:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:17 AM
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18. Sigh... I can't, either. Not because I have as legitimate a reason as you
do, though. I just have no desire to see ANY 9/11 stuff. Too painful. I already know how it ends. I'd just rather not.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:22 AM
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19. My dear calimary........
This one doesn't end with the bombing....

That's where it starts.......

The ending here made me cry, and in a good way.......

Let me just say that this film celebrates the good in humans......

Our families, both personal and working..... :hug:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:36 AM
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20. Fair enough. Still just a little too gut-wrenching.
It's just not something I want to relive. At least for now.

I'm glad it was meaningful and moving to you, though.

:hi:
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reformedrepub Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:39 AM
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21. I was trapped in an adjacent building for
almost six hours...I got hit on the shoulder by flaming debris from UA 175....havent seen the movie yet.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:41 AM
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22. Do you think you'll ever want to see something like that?
I hate that these movies are coming out so quickly because a mythos forms around events and people - many of whom are still alive today. Like that "Path to 9/11" travesty on ABC.
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reformedrepub Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:43 AM
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23. I dont know
maybe, later on down the road. I know so many people who were killed and went to so many brothers and sisters funerals.....
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:45 AM
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24. That's the gritty reality of all this that no movie can capture.
I remember going through Penn Station and seeing some Boston cops who had come down for services... all of their badges had black bands.
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reformedrepub Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:49 AM
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25. The worst part
was being down at the site for days and days and NEVER pulling out a survivor, just bodies and parts of bodies...
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 11:27 AM
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39. The S&R dogs at the WTC got depressed
along with everyone else so a rescuer would cover themself with some debris and pretend to be a survivor so the that the dogs would have something to get excited about.

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 05:08 PM
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34. Damn. I hope no serious injury from that.
I hope you live in Manhattan somewhere. Because otherwise, once you finally got out I know you must have had a hell of a time just getting home. :(
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:49 PM
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27. As someone who was here on 9/11 I won't.
I will not watch anything about 9/11. I don't want to know how the media portrays the events of that day. I want my memories of 9/11 to remain first hand, or second hand through friends who survived. x(
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 03:56 PM
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28. .
:patriot:

My thoughts exactly.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:15 PM
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30. I guess a bunch of us feel that way.
That's good to know. There are some things that shouldn't be turned into a movie for at least a generation.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:12 PM
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29. My dear ThomCat...........
Of course, and I understand as much as one who wasn't there can...

My heart goes out to you, and to all who experienced that day first hand...

:hug:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:26 PM
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32. Thank you.
:hug:

I saw it. My roommate survived it. She survived tower 2 only because people picked her up and carried her out, and I spent that entire day on the phone calling hospitals trying to find out if she was alive, and reassuring her family that she must be. I think I know a lot of people who won't watch that movie for many years.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:18 PM
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31. I lost friends in the towers that day. I won't go see it.
The memories of the towers coming down are too raw for me to see them essentially romanticized in a film.

Too many funerals; too much death.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 04:28 PM
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33. Far too many funerals.
There is a street near me that is now named after someone I knew. :(

And too many survivors who were permanently hurt/disabled and essentially thrown away afterward. x(
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 07:32 PM
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36. It was a fantastic movie
You really felt for those men
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:08 PM
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37. My dear LibraLiz1973.............
My feelings exactly!

Thanks for coming by tonight......:hi:
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 01:48 PM
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40. I saw "World Trade Center"
I thought it was a good film. Don't know if it is Oliver Stone's best. I liked "Platoon", "Wall Street" and "JFK" too.

I was surprised that WTC didn't do better at the box office. I guess some people don't want to revisit 9/11.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 02:39 PM
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42. My dear Melynn...........
Well, of course, everyone has different opinions...

I know some folks don't want to revisit 9/11........just look upthread...

For me, it was his best...but that's just me!

:hi:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 02:06 PM
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41. I gotta differ, Peggy!
I was rather disappointed by the story. And what was UP with that former (?) Marine who was on a mission from God, anyway?

IMHO, it was a weak story not very well told.

Bake
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 02:42 PM
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43. My dear dbaker41!
No worries! I did kind of wonder about that Marine too......

That was a weak link, IMHO.......

But otherwise, I loved the story.

I loved how the story went back and forth between the trapped guys and then back to their families.....

You are always more than welcome to differ with me!


:hi:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 02:45 PM
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44. Please! Call me "my dear Bake!"
Nobody calls me dbaker41 ...

Bake
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 02:58 PM
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45. Ah, my dear Bake!
I go by the username, till I hear/see differently!

Sorry, sweetie!

Is that all better now?

:hug:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 03:21 PM
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46. All my FRIENDS call me Bake!
:hug:

Much better!

Bake
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 03:23 PM
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47. Glad I'm counted among your friends, my dear Bake!
And you are among mine!

:hug:
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:13 AM
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48. He was real
I googled him after seeing the film,he is real.Apparently he was not consulted in the making of the film,and is working on a book with the paramedic,who was also not thrilled with his portrayal.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:42 PM
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50. So, he was real? Wow.......
Thanks for your input!

:hi:
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 11:14 AM
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49. Watched it last night.
Even better was the documentary aired on 9/11 this year.I can't remember the title,but it's available at netflix.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:45 PM
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52. My dear there-s a!
I'm not at all sure I could watch a documentary........

I found this one hard enough to see......

But I did enjoy the way Stone wove the overarching story of the attacks with the families' stories......

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:43 PM
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51. Sorry, I just cant watch any movies about 9/11
WTC...United 93...none of them

I just don't want to relive that day, sorry.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:47 PM
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53. My dear Taverner!
I understand completely, you know I do!

I suspect that this day will always be a difficult one for us who lived through it to revisit.........:hug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-29-06 12:51 PM
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54. Yes there's certain things I can't rewatch.
A good friend of the family stormed the beaches of Normandy on D-Day. You may have heard of him, "Dutch" Schultz. We all went to the premiere of "Saving Private Ryan". Dutch couldn't watch the opening scene or the scene where the French family was trying to get their daughter to safety. He left the theater during both of those scenes, a 80-something year old man, sobbing uncontrollably.

I wasn't there on 9/11, but I can relate - its a little taste of what he must have felt.
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