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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:41 PM
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TexanWitch! OMG! You will be so pleased!!
There's more water at the watering hole!

Check it out! :woohoo:
(Camera panning around, but am sure the small stream from new pond forming will be seen again :) )

http://www.wavelit.com/index.asp?ch=Wildlife&sh=africam#
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:41 PM
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1. They're panning now.
:)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:45 PM
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2. I've Seen That Stream Before When Panning
There must be a spring there or something because that is all fresh water right by the lodge too.

There's some kind of antelope that show up at around 8:00 CST a.m. sometimes they are fighting too.

I have a hard time working sometimes when I can watch Africa cam! ROFL!

:hi:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:53 PM
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5. There have been a lot of late night storms recently
Has been seeing a lot of lightning during the night over what looks like mountains in the distance.

It would make sense that due to the semi-arid landscape that the pan is the lower to lowest basin-type land areas, and a receiver of the water flow.


Glad you made it home, SPK. Good luck in the year ahead.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:56 PM
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6. Thanks Nelly!
you too!

I've missed seeing the rain

I've enjoyed seeing the animals, it's a cool site!

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:50 PM
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3. Wow, there was thunderstorm last night, a big one.
Glad to see the water level up, the water has to taste better.

I think it is raining.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. Hey, texanwitch!
How's it hangin'?
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:07 PM
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15. Hi Whoa_Nelly.
I have busy all day getting ready for tomorrow.

The water level is looking a lot a better, not full but almost.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #15
26. Tomorrow? What's tomorrow?
You travelin'?
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:51 PM
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4. looks like it's raining!
yay!
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:06 PM
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14. Hey, momophile!
Bet all this fresh water will bring elephants in!

(A girl can dream, can't she? :rofl: )


How are you doing, momo? :hi:
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:23 PM
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20. bring on the elephants!
I haven't seen them in awhile.

I'm doing great. Closed on a new home yesterday and started moving a little bit today. Too cool!

How are you, Whoa_Nelly?
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. Wow! New home!
Congrats! :woohoo:


PM anytime you need design advice!


Am doing fine and finishing up some projects...and starting a few more! One of'em a photog one! Am excited about it!
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:57 PM
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7. ICK! ANTS!
Do they have to show them? :scared:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 10:59 PM
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8. ROFL!
:rofl:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:01 PM
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10. Today I got into a fire ant nest by accident, 7 fire ant bits on my right hand.
An ant bite or bites sure can leave a sting.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. O no! What a way to spend part of your Saturday!
Are you OK?
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:12 PM
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16. I am fine.
Fire ants are everywhere.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #16
28. Reckon fire ants happen....
x(



Have been bitten by one...YIKES!
Li'l critters like to bury their heads in your skin!

Benedryl gel works best for me!


You are soooo brave! :patriot:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:03 PM
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13. Good Thing You Aren't Allergic!
those buggers will leave scars on ya.

Bad things those fire ants!

:thumbsdown:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:14 PM
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17. Fire ants can kill young animals.
All you can do is try to control them.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:18 PM
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18. They've Been Known To Kill People Who Are Allergic
only most people don't find out they are allergic until they are bit

and if you are away from medical care SOL

fortunately allergy to fire ants is rare and I'm sure overhyped by the media

My wife stepped on a nest out at lake Texoma a while back, she had healing sores for 6 weeks and it left scars

they really got her foot bad before she even knew it.

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #18
21. I use Aloe Vera, works very well in healing ant bites.
The ants attack you, I had fire ants bite me when I was wearing socks.



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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:26 PM
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22. Good To Know
they are aggressive as hell and all you can do is try to control them as you said.

Fortunately they seem to stay out of the area I live in, but they aren't far away!

:yourock:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:35 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. Ants like to make nests in flower pots, anything with dirt.
Now they trying to stay warm.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:40 PM
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24. Yeah, You're Down Around Austin?
a little warmer climate than here even though it isn't that far.

We've got some out in the country mostly around here, but not a lot.

Go south about 50 miles and they have them more

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:46 PM
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27. I am in Austin Now but I will be going back to Houston tomorrow morning.
I have two turkeys to fry, they are sitting in coolers thawing out now.

Then Tuesday back to work, except my new office is in the back of the house.

I am going to like working from home.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:50 PM
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29. WooHoo! The big Turkey Fry!
Have fun! :loveya:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:56 PM
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31. Two big turkeys about 15 lbs. each.
Fried turkey goes fast.

Also we are going have a second Christmas for all of us who were working or out of town.

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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:57 PM
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32. Sounds so good all the way around!
Take pics!!! ;)
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:12 AM
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35. Fried Turkeys Are Da Bomb!
They really aren't greasy

they taste awesome

and you can inject them with whatever spices you want and they cook kind of crispy on the outside, but moist and tasty on the inside!

Best way to make a Turkey ever

And TW has an electric fryer, she's got it down now - I've always done them with gas burners over a big pot

Mmmmmmm!
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:32 AM
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37. I am not brave enough to use a gas burner.
I:patriot: anyone who has the courage to use one.

I can't wait for that turkey.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:57 AM
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38. I Worry Everytime We Do
I think you've got the right idea with the electric one

That temperature probe starts heading up past what it is supposed to be wayyyy to easily, I just know the oil is suddenly going to all be in flames!

I guess it is a challenge, but I'd feel better with an electric one

Where did you get your electric one?

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. Walmart.
I never shop there but they had electric cooker for $25, and a good deal on the oil.

Many places sell them like Academy.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:08 AM
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41. Cool, I Live In Wal Mart Land (Arkansas) And We Have Academy Too!
oil is the most expensive part of the whole deal though isn't it!

:hi:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:15 AM
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42. Yep.
The oil is expensive but so worth it.

You have watch out for sales, Academy had the oil at a good price.

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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:20 AM
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43. I've Heard Of Pretty Good Sales At Times
you can't really do much with the oil except use it again quickly, fry some fish?

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:30 AM
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44. I don't about using the oil again, we just threw it away.
I would like to keep the oil but I don't know if it keeps after being used.

Need to check this out on the internet.:shrug:
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:32 AM
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45. I'd Think It Might Get Rancid Pretty Fast
If I were going to use it, I'd either refrigerate it, or use it almost immediately.

I can't imagine it would keep well at all.

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #45
46. I found this website.

The oils used to fry turkey are critical to the success of the product.

Oil Selection
Only oils that have high smoke points should be used. Such oils include peanut, canola and sunflower. Peanut oil has abundant flavor and is the top choice of many cooks. Canola oil is low in saturated fats and would be appropriate to combine with peanut oil if fat and cholesterol are a concern.
Oil Filtering
These high smoke-point oils allow reusing the oil with proper filtration. Depending on the recipe used, remember to filter the oil...not just strain it. Allow the oil to cool overnight in the covered pot. The first step is to strain the cooled oil through a fine strainer. If a breading, spice or herb rub are used in the preparation of the turkey, it will be necessary to further filter the oil through fine cheesecloth.




Oil Storage
Peanut oil should be covered and refrigerated to prevent it from becoming rancid. Peanut oil is more perishable than other oils and must be stored in the refrigerator if kept longer than one month. Peanut oil may even be frozen. The oil will thicken when it is chilled, but will return to its original consistency when reheated. The oil will also develop a cloudy appearance that may remain when brought back to room temperature and will only clear up temporarily while heated. The oil may remain in the refrigerator for several months or until signs of deterioration begin.

Oil Shelf Life
According to the Texas Peanut Producers Board, peanut oil may be used three or four times to fry turkeys before signs of deterioration begin. Such indications include foaming, darkening or smoking excessively, indicating the oil must be discarded. Other signs of deteriorated oil include a rancid smell and/or failure to bubble when food is added.

For more information on deep frying turkey with peanut oil, visit www.louana.com .



Original Message
I'd Think It Might Get Rancid Pretty Fast















A Deep Fried Delicacy: The How-To on Deep Frying Turkey


Deep-fried turkey, a concept that started in the south, is gradually rising in popularity nationwide. It's a perfect twist for barbecues, block parties and holiday feasts. In fact, since deep frying turkey requires special equipment and lots of oil, families and groups of neighbors often get together to share the costs and the feast. To get you started, we have several deep-fried turkey recipes for you. For a deep frying turkey experience that is fun and produces delicious results follow these guidelines:

Equipment
You'll need a 40 quart or 60 quart heavy pot with lid and basket, burner and propane gas tank, a candy thermometer to measure oil temperature and a food thermometer to determine doneness of the turkey. For added safety, have a fire extinguisher, oven mitts and pot holders nearby. To add flavor with different marinades and seasonings, you may want to purchase an injector.

Location
Place the fryer on level dirt or a grassy area. Never fry a turkey indoors, in a garage or in any other structure attached to a building. Avoid frying on wood decks, which could catch fire, and concrete, which can be stained by the oil.

The Turkey - Size Matters
Smaller turkeys, 8 pounds to 10 pounds and turkey parts, such as breast, wings, drumsticks and thighs, are best for frying. Size does matter as a 12 pound to 14 pound turkey is the maximum size bird that can be successfully deep fried. In addition to the obvious safety concern of lowering and lifting a big turkey into a vessel of boiling oil, larger birds simply cook longer. The extra cooking time results in over exposure to the skin, which will likely be over cooked.

If a larger bird (over 15-pounds) has been purchased, follow these steps for the best results. Detach the dark meat (leg and thigh portions) from the breast and fry the two turkey parts separately. Fry the leg/thigh sections first in oil that has been preheated to 365 degrees F-375 degrees F. Cook to an internal temperature of 180 degrees F. Remove the dark sections and reheat the oil to 365 degrees F-375 degrees F. Then fry the turkey breast to an internal temperature of 170 degrees F.

Other Ingredients
You'll need approximately 5 gallons of a high-smoke point oil; more for larger turkeys. The turkey may be injected with a marinade, coated with breading or seasoned with a rub. Check our list of recipes:

Cajun Deep Fried Turkey
Ginger & Rosemary Deep Fried Turkey
Southern Deep Fried Turkey
Louisiana Fried Turkey Breast
Asian Style Deep-Fried Turkey
Bayou Deep Fried Turkey

Cooking Preparation


To determine the correct amount of oil, place the turkey in the fryer basket and place in the pot. Add water until it reaches 1 inches to 2 inches above the turkey. Remove the turkey and note the water level, using a ruler to measure the distance from the top of the pot to the surface of the water. Pour out the water and dry the pot thoroughly. Be sure to measure for oil before breading or marinating the turkey.
Heat the oil to 365 degrees F-375 degrees F. Depending on the amount of oil used, this usually takes between 45 minutes and 1 hour.
While the oil is heating, prepare the turkey as desired. If injecting a marinade into the turkey, puree ingredients so that they will pass through the needle. Even so, you may have to strain the mixture to remove larger portions.
Remove any excess fat around the neck.
If breading the turkey, place the turkey in a gallon-sized food safe storage bag with breading and shake to coat.
Do not stuff turkeys for deep frying.
To reduce spattering, thoroughly dry the interior and exterior of the bird.
Frying the Turkey

Once the oil has come to temperature, place the turkey in the basket and slowly lower into the pot.
Whole turkeys require approximately 3 minutes per pound to cook. Remove turkey and check internal temperature with meat thermometer. The temperature should at least 165 degrees F, but preferable 170 degrees F in the breast and 180 degrees F in the thigh.
Turkey parts such as breast, wings and thighs require approximately 4 minutes to 5 minutes per pound to come to temperature.




Additional Safety Tips

Never leave the hot oil unattended and don't allow children or pets near the cooking area.
Allow the oil to cool completely before disposing or storing.
Immediately wash hands, utensils, equipment and surfaces that have come in contact with raw turkey.
Turkey should be consumed immediately and leftovers stored in the refrigerator within two hours of cooking.




The oils used to fry turkey are critical to the success of the product.

Oil Selection
Only oils that have high smoke points should be used. Such oils include peanut, canola and sunflower. Peanut oil has abundant flavor and is the top choice of many cooks. Canola oil is low in saturated fats and would be appropriate to combine with peanut oil if fat and cholesterol are a concern.
Oil Filtering
These high smoke-point oils allow reusing the oil with proper filtration. Depending on the recipe used, remember to filter the oil...not just strain it. Allow the oil to cool overnight in the covered pot. The first step is to strain the cooled oil through a fine strainer. If a breading, spice or herb rub are used in the preparation of the turkey, it will be necessary to further filter the oil through fine cheesecloth.




Oil Storage
Peanut oil should be covered and refrigerated to prevent it from becoming rancid. Peanut oil is more perishable than other oils and must be stored in the refrigerator if kept longer than one month. Peanut oil may even be frozen. The oil will thicken when it is chilled, but will return to its original consistency when reheated. The oil will also develop a cloudy appearance that may remain when brought back to room temperature and will only clear up temporarily while heated. The oil may remain in the refrigerator for several months or until signs of deterioration begin.

Oil Shelf Life
According to the Texas Peanut Producers Board, peanut oil may be used three or four times to fry turkeys before signs of deterioration begin. Such indications include foaming, darkening or smoking excessively, indicating the oil must be discarded. Other signs of deteriorated oil include a rancid smell and/or failure to bubble when food is added.

For more information on deep frying turkey with peanut oil, visit www.louana.com.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:52 PM
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30. Houston? Man, I Thought You Were Around Austin
and those Turkeys are going to be good don't ya know!

all the neighbors will be over eating!

get to work from home, that will be cool!

good luck!

:pals:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #30
33. My Aunt lives near Austin on her farm and I have been visiting with her.
Austin isn't that far away now.

My goal is to move to the farm and work from home there if everything works out.

I really want out of Houston.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:09 AM
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34. Geez I Imagine, My Opinion Of Houston Isn't Very High
of course maybe that's partly because of the * family ties there

Austin and that area is great.

Austin is a cool city to party in. A farm around there I bet is awesome.

Just think, it wasn't until the 1950's that a lot of areas in the hill country got electricity through the rural electrification program.

Austin is definitely one of my favorite places to go.

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. I love Austin, moved there after I finished high school.
Houston is a great place to visit but don't want to live here anymore.

I will keep my house here, my housemates rent pays the note but I don't have to be there.

I was born in Houston, never did like living here.



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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #36
39. Sounds Cool!
I've just always thought Houston was too big, spread out, and kind of dirty in a way.

Austin used to be less crowded and easier to get around, it is still a great place though.

:toast:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #39
47. Austin is not like it was in the 70's but it still better then Houston.
It just feels different in Austin.

Houston isn't my home anymore, to much concrete, townhouses, and traffic.

We are one big hurricane away from a giant mess.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 02:00 AM
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48. No Doubt! One Big Hurricane From A Giant Mess!
read a book about the hurricane at Galveston back in the early part of the 20th century. Houston could be just as devastated.

Austin does feel different.

I almost went to grad school there, but I could only get into the adminstrative social work MSW program at the time and I wanted the clinical program.

Had friends that moved there and visited them.

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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:01 PM
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11. OOH, Ants.
So exciting.

:eyes:
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momophile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 11:19 PM
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19. baby zebra!
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