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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:34 PM
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Just back from the vet.
Sweet Jesus. What next?
Nasha, our geriatric German Shepherd, got twisted gut/torsion again. Third time in four years. Luckily we now recognize the symptoms. If it's not corrected, the dog dies a very painful death (think MASSIVE stomach cramps), in a very short time.

We call David, our vet, and meet him at the office in 15 minutes. He is tops on my list for sainthood. The office is closed today, so I am assistant vet. Miz t. cannot bear to see this.

We have to get a tube down her throat, into her stomach, to relieve the rapidly building gas pressure. She is blowing up like a balloon. We (he) also have to try and figure WHICH way her gut twisted and try and "unwind" it.

Since she's already having trouble breathing, he can't use gas to put her under, so he shaves one foreleg and starts an injection of pentathol. When she's almost under, he intubates her with the gas. She's out. Now he begins to try and get a 3/8" plastic tube past the twist above her stomach. He slides it as far as he can, twisting it to follow the path it must take. Then pulls it out to measure against her body to see how far he got. Not there yet. More pushing and twisting. Still not through. He grabs a plastic brace that looks kind of like a turkey roasting rack. We roll her from her right side onto her back, on the rack, to keep her there. He quickly secures all four paws to the sides of the operating table so she can't inadvertently roll back on her side. She's out like a light anyway. About this time her bowels go. The stench is almost overpowering. More trying to get the tube down. This goes on for several minutes. "If I can't get this down to her stomach pretty soon, I'll have to open her up or she'll be gone in 15 minutes."

I step out to the waiting room to tell Miz t. She is sobbing. Nasha had this surgery the first time she had torsion, four years ago. It was another vet, one who happened to be on call at the time. When he got her straightened out, he tacked her stomach to the side of the cavity with a few stitches to try and prevent this happening again. As we now know, it doesn't always work.

As I'm breaking the news to Miz t., David yells "I think I got through!". I run back to the OR. Looks like it's through, at least partially. A thick, white, meringue-like foam starts to come out of the tube, followed by yellow looking bile stuff. And then it stops.
He pulls the tube out again and the end is clogged with a piece of chicken, or wad of hair, it's impossible to tell what the yuck is. Need a bigger tube. He comes back with a 3/4" one and manages to get it down her. Now a lot more stuff comes out. More foam and bile and half-digested food. Looks like we're home free.

"Now we just have to figure out which way she's twisted and which way to roll her to try and get it untwisted." We roll her left. David pulls lightly on the tube.
"It feels tighter that way."
We roll her back right.
"Feels looser now. I think we've got it."

He removes the tube and the gas tube. Cranks the stainless steel table so that her head is lower than her body. I hold on to her to keep her from sliding off. She starts breathing on her own in a minute and moves her head. The she barfs. Boy, does she barf.
David says "Good girl. Get it up."

She's breathing regularly now and her pulse rate is relatively normal. David and I look at each other. Vomit and shit are splattered down our shirts and pants. We start laughing and then do a high five. YES!
I want to kiss him.

"I'll keep her here overnight, but I think she'll be fine. Hey, while she's still groggy, I'll clip her nails. (He knows Nasha HATES having her nails clipped. Now is a good time.) She's gonna need a bath when she's a little steadier. She is RIPE!"
I don't know if David's other patients think he is the best vet on the planet, but we do. Oh yes. We do.

That was my Saturday afternoon.
How was yours?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:38 PM
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1. OMG!!! WOW I'm glad the dog is o.k. though!! n/t
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:51 PM
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4. Oh my trof !!
that is one lucky doggie to be so well loved ((((( hug)))
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:54 PM
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5. Tell me about it.
:-)
I could have bought a pretty good outboard motor for what we've spent on her medical expenses in the last four years.
But I'd rather have the dog.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:55 PM
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29. You, my dear, have the world's greatest vet..... how lucky are you?
And what a lucky poochie too...

You're a good doggie daddy.... that's for sure.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:46 PM
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2. A toast to David The Hero
:toast: What an ordeal
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:03 PM
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13. Yeah, he deserves something more than me just paying the bill.
I think we'll take he and his wife out to dinner.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:48 PM
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3. Wow..this tops any episode of Emeregency Vet on Animal Planet!
Glad to hear she's going to be okay!

I have a geriatric Cairn Terrier who so far, knock on wood, is still going strong. She's 13 and has survived a kidney infection and a near-fatal bout of pernicious anemia that has, thankfully, not returned.

Getting a little concerned though, because sometimes she just stands completely still like she's frozen. I'm fairly certain it's not a seizure. If you call her name she snaps out of it immediately and responds. I did some reading online that mentioned senility being prevalent in older dogs. Have to take her in soon for a teeth cleaning and do a pac cell count to monitor the anemia issue and will mention to the vet.

Give Nasha a sratch behind the ears for me!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:58 PM
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7. Nasha is 12 1/2
Which is pretty ancient for a large dog.
Longest lived of any we've had.
Started getting the blank stare from her a couple of years ago.
Alzheimers?
Now she's stone deaf in any but the highest registers.
Can't even take her in the yard without a leash any more. She can't hear me call her and will just go wandering off after a squirrel.
Getting old sux.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:55 PM
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6. Wow, quite the story!
Dogs make, in my view, the greatest pet on the planet.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:00 PM
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9. I'm AC-DC
Ace-the-Cat is pretty cool too.
He's looking at me now as if to say "OK, what did you do with her?".
He loves Nasha.
She tolerates him.
Ah...unrequited love.
:-(
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:03 PM
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12. Our cat finally accepted the puppy.
Beat the snot out of him one time, but that apparently established the pecking order sufficiently well so that now it's all hunky-dory with Sid---he'll ecven groom Brodie now. :)
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 05:59 PM
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8. Good to hear she's OK.
Reminds me of when I worked at a funeral home, back in HS. You quickly learn whether you've got a weak stomach, don't you?
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:01 PM
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11. I'm OK with bodily excretions.
Not sure how I would have done if we got the scalpels out.
I was actually kind of curious to see, but glad it didn't come to that.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:01 PM
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10. How was mine? I took my silly retreiver to the park for some exercise
She must be bored of walking around the block, so I have to take the old 12 year old to the Metropark to get her any real exercise. She didn't walk too far today before wanting to turn back. Meanwhile, she got to roll in the grass and sniff 40 trees and got petted by four strangers.

I think you know why I took her there. Best wishes for Nasha.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:12 PM
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16. I understand.
Miz t. and I take a 3 mile walk almost every morning.
Nash used to go with us. We carried a leash, but didn't really need it. She 'heeled' before I could teach her. She's very gentle, but protective and never wants to be more than 4 or 5 feet away from us.
As she aged, she got slower.
One morning, about half way around, she just sat down, and that was that.

Helen stayed with her while I came back for the car.
Now out to the mailbox and back is a big day for her.
:-(
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:18 PM
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19. I just want her to get exercise to keep her healthy
If I didn't go to that park today, I would not have met these two local Kucinich campaigners I saw in the gift shop. We talked about activism before and after the primaries. How about that.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:22 PM
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22. Serendipity!
The unexpected pleasures are the best.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:07 PM
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14. Question for you Trof....
Edited on Sat Jan-03-04 06:09 PM by KzooDem
Given that you're a vet AND the owner owner of a geriatric dog, what is your opinon on dog vitamins? I give mine Pet Tabs. I know they can't hurt, but do you think they really benefit older dogs, or am I just throwing away $21 dollars every two months? I pretty much worship my vet as well and trust his advice, but have never had the opportunity to ask another vet about it...
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:15 PM
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17. Ahem...that's amateur assistant vet.
Nasha takes Senior Pet-Tabs.
I think they're worth it.
She also takes glucosimine sulphate for her arthritis, just like her daddy (moi) does.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:11 PM
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15. Good to hear things worked out.
Wow! :) Keep us posted how Nasha is doing!!! :)
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:19 PM
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20. Thanks. Will do.
We'll probably pick her up in the morning.
I honestly think she's been living on borrowed time for a while now.
We've had a German Shepherd for 34 years. Every other one has died prematurely from some disease. Usually cancer. One had the canine equivilent of muscular distrophy.

My hope is that one morning I'll get up and she just won't be breathing. Nothing traumatic, nothing painful, just...gone.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:16 PM
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18. Mmmm... chicken chili anyone!
Tasty!

Seriously, that had to one of the most disgusting things I've ever read.

I'm glad your dog is fine. Is Nasha hungry?... don't think I'm going to be eating this stuff I just cooked.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:21 PM
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21. Yeah, pretty gross.
For some reason it doesn't bother me.
I was always a good head-holder in college.
;-)
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bratcatinok Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:28 PM
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23. Awww, I'm glad Nasha is ok!
It sounds as if you have a gem of a vet. Luckily I do too. My little dog was hit by a car on Mother's Day and our vet met my fiance and our pup as soon as he found out what happened. He stabilized Ruf and operated the next day.

The things we do for our furbies! Rufus was at home recovering from the surgery that saved his leg and I could tell he was going downhill again. I called my vet and he had me come right in. Turns out the incision was infected and Ruf was constipated. Stronger antibiotics were given and I got the pleasure of giving Ruf the enema. Y'know, you get to know your future mom-in-law rather quickly when you participate in giving a dog an enema.

Rufus and the 2 kitties are gathered round and wishing Nasha a speedy recovery.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 06:31 PM
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24. Thanks, Okie.
I learned to fly the airplane in Oklahoma, a long, long time ago.
Vance AFB, Enid, OK.
Them was some TIMES.
YeeHaa.
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areschild Donating Member (952 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 07:31 PM
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25. I'm so glad Nasha survived the ordeal.
I've heard that this happens a lot to big dogs. Do they know what causes this? How to prevent it? Your vet is a true saint.



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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:38 PM
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26. Appears to be more common in thoroughbreds.
Horses.
They roll, and twist their stomachs.
No prevention that we know of.
Just recognize the symptoms and move fast.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:45 PM
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27. That happened to my Standard Poodle
it was really scary, luckily it only happened one time. Sounds like she will be alright, terrific. :bounce:. Best of Luck in the future! :hug:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-04 08:49 PM
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28. AWWW, cute.
Too bad my dog didn't have as much luck.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:26 AM
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30. update
The doc called a few minutes ago. Nasha made it through the night OK and seems to be doing fine. Wouldn't eat anything, but they don't have any of the baked chicken thighs that Miz t. makes for her.
Yeah, she's spoiled.
He wants to keep her one more night so his staff can give her a bath in the morning.

Coincidently, there was a "thank you" letter to the editor in the morning paper. A lady's dog was hit by a car Christmas morning. Back broken and no way to save him. David left his family, opening their presents, and went to her house to put the dog down. I think vets experience more than their share of sadness.
What a guy.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:31 AM
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31. Glad To See That All Turned Out Well...
... I hope Nasha continues to do well.

-- Allen
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 12:28 PM
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32. Gosh, what an ordeal for you and your dog.
Sounds like you have a great vet. Hope Nasha will recover soon.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 04:01 PM
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33. Thanks for all the good wishes.
I'll tell Nasha.
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