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WWW Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:04 PM
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I'm a Democrat.
At what age did you realize you were a Democrat. And what were the circumstances surrounding that epiphany?

For me, my high school basketball coach asked me to help babysit for the volunteers working the McGovern campaign. We had a "day care center" in the back of the campaign headquarters. I had two eyes on the kiddies in front of me and two ears focused on what was going on out front in the office. Holy Smoke, what unbelievable discussions. It was nothing I had ever heard. Totally blew me away. I was 14 and knew I was a Democrat at that point.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:09 PM
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1. For me it was sometime
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 06:10 PM by salinen
around age 10, when my Nixonian father dropped the upper half of the newspaper to tell me that the beatles where a huge threat to the world.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:10 PM
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2. The first time that I saw nightly news on TV I guess
In the same nightly news I saw something about Reagan, Bush, Israel-Palestine conflicts, the War on (Some)Drugs, Iran/Contra, S&L. I guess I associated all of the problems in the world to them.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:11 PM
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3. when I started questioning things
Rather than accept them blindly. I was about 12, I suppose.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:12 PM
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4. During the impeachment..

It was disgusting..
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:59 PM
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21. Me too. A political party that could put the prez's sex life on tv is way,
way too strong. It is not healthy for our country. I had voted mostly pub before the impeachment (not alway). That event turned me into a die-hard Democrat.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:12 PM
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5. My grandfather was a local Democrat politician
and he would take me along to campaign at all the fish frys and church/sorority dinners and I remember camping out on election nights at the local Democrat headquarters and remember everyone so happy they won and partying and blowing horns and the like! I also remember all the good talk about Kennedy as a child and Martin Luther King's speeches. So I kind of knew when I was little. I just always assumed I was because that was what I've been raised as. My grandfather and grandmother talked of peace, love, giving, compromise, civil rights, respecting others beliefs, etc. My grandfather was a local businessman and long-time politician who never lost a race--he just retired. Even Republicans liked and voted for him because he was genuine. I will always try to emmulate my grandparent's character. I'm still me but their values and virtue stay with me. That's why I'll always remain a Democrat.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:18 PM
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6. In 1984, I painted a very pretty "Reagan/Bush 84" sign.
We were given the choice, of course, but since all of my friends (read: their parents -- I was 9) liked Reagan, that's who I chose. "Down the toilet, Mondale!" was a common refrain from the boys in my classroom.

And oh, it was a pretty sign. It might have had glitter or macaroni, or maybe some googly eyes and a smile, making a face in the "g." I was so proud of this sign. I showed it to my grandmother -- a painter and writer in her own right. I knew she would be proud, too.

And she was -- of the artwork. She praised the technique, or maybe my creativity. And then she paused. She sat me on her knee, and passed on this wisdom:

"We do not vote for those people."

And then she explained why. I don't remember what she said, but I know it did have something to do with voting the best interests of ourselves, and our neighbors, and our country -- and not simply copying people whose parents didn't know any better.

Something stuck. I can proudly say I've never voted for "those people."
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WWW Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:24 PM
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8. Yah, those grandmas...
Mine hated Nixon, this was after my epiphany, but we never discussed politics in the house. We're sitting there in front of the TV watching Nixon and and Grammie says, "I hate that asshole" Blew me off of the divan....She was such a great Democrat...but I never knew because we didn't discuss politics in the house.....It was the only swear she ever said in my presence.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:21 PM
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7. Indie until Dec. 2000
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 06:22 PM by trof
Yella dawg ever since and until the day they pry my ballot from these cold dead hands.
Oh, I was 58. Hell of an age to become totally disillusioned with your country.
:-(
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:25 PM
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9. I always knew I was a Progressive Democrat
- there was little question in my household where having people like Chomsky over for dinner was nothing out of the ordinary.

But lately I've seriously been wondering. I have no idea what I am anymore because I do not recognize this party.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:35 PM
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13. being from Hawaii
I've always leaned repub because of so much good-ole-boy stuff with the long time ruling dem's in local govt here. My epiphany on the national scale came over the last 10 years or so after Robertson's Rabid Right started having influence, the internet allowed more access to the truth, and personal disclosures by a new brother-in-law that had been silenced by military/politics for 30 years.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:44 PM
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18. Thanks - I realized long ago that our access to the truth
and the manner in which we process it, is what really makes the difference between us and them (whoever 'them' is).


Here's looking at the truth coming out and being wisely processed!

:toast:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:27 PM
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10. It wasn't until after Bill Clinton won in 1992. I had voted for
Bush Sr. twice (to my eternal shame), and I saw the guys around me who were slamming Clinton and mourning the fact that Poppy was gone. They were all loudmouthed, homophobic, racist assholes. I didn't want to be associated with people like that. So I took a closer look at the Big Dog, and his issues. I realized then that I am a Democrat. Now and forever. Or at least until they morph into the conservative party again, like they were in the Civil War era.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:27 PM
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11. My after my first semester of college.
It was then that I started to see a larger picture of the world and realized one can not hide from the world or fight it constantly. And that their is a lot of wrong in this world and bombing everything that disagree with you won't do any real good!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:36 PM
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14. It's part of my family history
My grandfather came here from Ireland in 1879. He and his siblings were stone-cutters on the railroads. (An earlier generation had been workers on the canals in NYS.) By 1900, they were station agents and telegraphers. My family had to endure some pretty serious hatred from WASPs in those days. Grandpa's aunts were also telegraphers. In the traditional Irish culture, women were not confused with 2nd class citizens, which was a huge reason why the Irish were feared. They loved FDR. What can I say about JFK? My cousin got a handful of traffic tickets in Norwich, Chenango Co. NY, when he ran the Kennedy campaign headquarters ... the only tickets he got in 60 years of driving. I was born a Kennedy Democrat, and I'm very proud of that.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:29 PM
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12. I was born a democrat
and I will die a democrat.

The future of literally the entire world depends on democrats.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:37 PM
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15. My Great Uncle worked at the State Capitol
of Oklahoma and headed up the party for 30 years. Great Grandpa was a dem party official and territorial judge.

My great uncle raised my mother so he was my spiritual grandfather. My earliest memories are of roaming the cool marble floors of the State Office building and visiting the governor whenever I felt like it. I used to make him sign memos on my Uncle's stationery like "all people must wear brown shoes" and such. Wish I'd saved those.
FDR was a huge influence in my family. I never understood how my mom could turn on him. I always knew I was a democrat. The whole family is in government service going back three generations.

Both sides of my family had democratic party workers ; only my mom's generation was the black sheep. Mom is a Reagan republican. :(

When I first registered to vote, I was so pissed at the dem party I registered " Peace and Freedom"
:hippie:
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:41 PM
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16. The seeds began to be sown...
When Newt Gingrich rose to power with his Contract with America (aka The War on Poor). When Newt started suggesting that the Federal Free Lunch program for school children be ended, and that the Government stop subsidizing the Student Loan program, I started to wonder why he was so anxious to stick it to the powerless. At that point I began to realize for the first time who Newt and his kind really cared about, and realized that it certainly wasn't me, as I was a student loan recipient at the time.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:44 PM
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17. during Watergate
before that I was anti Viet Nam war but never really thought about party. I was about 15 at that time.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:45 PM
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19. When my Dad yanked me from the playground
and hauled me back to our new color television set to watch Nixon resign.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 06:50 PM
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20. Watching the 1956 Democratic convention.
My 7th birthday was that August. The Democrats made so damned much sense.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:18 PM
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22. My parents are Dems, I never thought about not being a Dem as a kid
Edited on Sat Jan-10-04 07:19 PM by AlGore2004dotORG
Even though I didn't know the difference - - I remember my 4th grade teacher asking my class who's parents were voting for Nixon (everybody but me raised their hands) and whose family was voting for McGovern. The teacher looked at me in shock and demanded "Why??". I had no idea why they were voting the way they were, I just knew it was important.

The first time I knew I was a Democrat in my own right was when I was 12 and watching the 1976 Democratic convention on TV. I thought it was the coolest thing ever (yes, I am the biggest geek in the universe). But when Barbara Jordan spoke... I felt really deeply "this is what it's all about".



http://www.elf.net/bjordan/keynote.html

1976 Democratic Convention Keynote Speech
"Who Then Will Speak for the Common Good?"
by Barbara Jordan

One hundred and fourty-four years ago, members of the Democratic Party first net in convention to select a Presidential candidate. Since that time, Democrats have continued to convene once every four years and draft a party platform and nominate a Presidential candidate. And our meeting this week is a continuation of that tradition.

But there is something different about tonight. There is something special about tonight. What is different? What is Special? I, Barbara Jordan, am a keynote speaker.

A lot of years passed since 1832, and during that time it would have been most unusual for any national political party to ask that a Barbara Jordan deliver a keynote address...but tonight here I am. An I feel that notwithstanding the past that my presence here is one additional bit of evidence that the American Dream need not forever be deferred.

Now that I have this grand distinction what in the world am I supposed to say?

I could easily spend this time praising the accomplishments of this party and attacking the Republicans but I don't choose to do that.

I could list the many problems which Americans have. I could list the problems which cause people to feel cynical, angry, frustrated: problems which include lack of integrity in government; the feeling that the individual no longer counts; the reality of material and spiritual poverty; the feeling that the grand American experiment is failing or has failed. I could recite these problems and then I could sit down and offer no solutions. But I don't choose to do that either.

The citizens of America expect more. They deserve and they want more than a recital of problems.

We are a people in a quandary about the present. We are a people in search of our future. We are a people in search of a national community.

We are a people trying not only to solve the problems of the present: unemployment, inflation...but we are attempting on a larger scale to fulfill the promise of America. We are attempting to fulfill our national purpose; to create and sustain a society in which all of us are equal.

Throughout out history, when people have looked for new ways to solve their problems, and to uphold the principles of this nation, many times they have turned to political parties. They have often turned to the Democratic Party.

What is it, what is it about the Democratic Party that makes it the instrument that people use when they search for ways to shape their future? Well I believe the answer to that question lies in our concept of governing. Our concept of governing is derived from our view of people. It is a concept deeply rooted in a set of beliefs firmly etched in the national conscience, of all of us.

Now what are these beliefs?

First, we believe in equality for all and privileges for none. This is a belief that each American regardless of background has equal standing in the public forum, all of us. Because we believe this idea so firmly, we are inclusive rather than an exclusive party. Let everybody come.

I think it no accident that most of those emigrating to America in the 19th century identified with the Democratic Party. We are a heterogeneous party made up of Americans of diverse backgrounds.

We believe that the people are the source of all governmental power; that the authority of the people is to be extended, not restricted. This can be accomplished only by providing each citizen with every opportunity to participate in the management of the government. They must have that.

We believe that the government which represents the authority of all the people, not just one interest group, but all the people, has an obligation to actively underscore, actively seek to remove those obstacles which would block individual achievement...obstacles emanating from race, sex, economic condition. The government must seek to remove them.

We are a party of innovation. We do not reject our traditions, but we are willing to adapt to changing circumstances, when change we must. We are willing to suffer the discomfort of change in order to achieve a better future.

We have a positive vision of the future founded on the belief that the gap between the promise and reality of America can one day be finally closed. We believe that.

This my friends, is the bedrock of our concept of governing. This is a part of the reason why Americans have turned to the Democratic Party. These are the foundations upon which a national community can be built.

Let's all understand that these guiding principles cannot be discarded for short-term political gains. They represent what this country is all about. They are indigenous to the American idea. And these are principles which are not negotiable.

In other times, I could stand here and give this kind of exposition on the beliefs of the Democratic Party and that would be enough. But today that is not enough. People want more. That is not sufficient reason for the majority of the people of this country to vote Democratic. We have made mistakes. In our haste to do all things for all people, we did not foresee the full consequences of our actions. And when the people raised their voices, we didn't hear. But our deafness was only a temporary condition, and not an irreversible condition.

Even as I stand here and admit that we have made mistakes I still believe that as the people of America sit in judgment on each party, they will recognize that our mistakes were mistakes of the heart. They'll recognize that.

And now we must look to the future. Let us heed the voice of the people and recognize their common sense. If we do not, we not only blaspheme our political heritage, we ignore the common ties that bind all Americans.

Many fear the future, Many are distrustful of their leaders, and believe that their voices are never heard. Many seek only to satisfy their private work wants. To satisfy private interests.

But this is the great danger America faces. That we will cease to be one nation and become instead a collection of interest groups: city against suburb, region against region, individual against individual. Each seeking to satisfy private wants.

If that happens, who then will speak for America?

Who then will speak for the common good?

This is the question which must be answered in 1976.

Are we to be one people bound together by common spirit sharing in a common endeavor or will we become a divided nation?

For all of its uncertainty, we cannot flee the future. We must not become the new puritans and reject our society. We must address and master the future together. It can be done if we restore the belief that we share a sense of national community, that we share a common national endeavor. It can be done.

There is no executive order; there is no law that can require the American people to form a national community. This we must do as individuals and if we do it as individuals, there is no President of the United States who can veto that decision.

As a first step, We must restore our belief in ourselves. We are a generous people so why can't we be generous with each other? We need to take to heart the words spoken by Thomas Jefferson:

Let us restore to social intercourse the harmony and that affection without which liberty and even life are but dreary things.
A nation is formed by the willingness of each of us to share in the responsibility for upholding the common good.
A government is invigorated when each of us is willing to participate in shaping the future of this nation.

In this election year we must define the common good and begin again to shape a common good and begin again to shape a common future. Let each person do his or her part. If one citizen is unwilling to participate, all of us are going to suffer. For the American idea, though it is shared by all of us, is realized in each one of us.

And now, what are those of us who are elected public officials supposed to do? We call ourselves public servants but I'll tell you this: we as public servants must set an example for the rest of the nation. It is hypocritical for the public official to admonish and exhort the people to uphold the common good. More is required of public officials than slogans and handshakes and press releases. More is required. We must hold ourselves strictly accountable. We must provide the people with a vision of the future.

If we promise as public officials, we must deliver. If we as public officials propose, we must produce. If we say to the American people it is time for you to be sacrificial; sacrifice. If the public official says that, we (public officials) must be the first to give. We must be. And again, if we make mistakes, we must be willing to admit them. We have to do that. What we have to do is strike a balance between the idea , the belief, that government ought to do nothing. Strike a balance.

Let there be no illusions about the difficulty of forming this kind of a national community. It's tough, difficult, not easy. But a spirit of harmony will survive in America only if each of us remembers that we share a common destiny.

I have confidence that we can form this kind of national community.

I have confidence that the Democratic Party can lead the way. I have confidence. We cannot improve on the system of government handed down to us by the founders of the Republic, there is no way to improve upon that. But what we can do is to find new ways to implement that system and realize our destiny.

Now, I began this speech by commenting to you on the uniqueness of a Barbara Jordan making the keynote address. Well I am going to close my speech by quoting a Republican President and I ask you that as you listen to these words of Abraham Lincoln, relate them to the concept of national community in which every last one of us participates:

"As I would not not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of Democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference is no Democracy."
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WWW Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:25 PM
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24. Yah, that's it...
That just brought tears to my eyes...What an incredible speech.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:23 PM
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23. When I knew Bush was running.. but not 100% dem
I am no die hard dem.. If a republican would come who has a good foreign policy and interested in keeping jobs in America I'll gladly vote for him.. but man when I saw Bush.. just no way in hell I could vote for him.. especially not when Gore was so intelligent.

Really a damn shame Gore never got to be President
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:26 PM
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25. There's this picture of me at 2 months of age
I have this big baby smile and I'm going with my dad to vote in the primaries in 1972. I think that's when I knew. It's just been so ingrained in me that I can't imagine not being a Democrat. The only way I can imagine being a Republican would be under three conditions:

1. Lost my heart
2. Lost my soul
3. Got a lobotomy
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 07:39 PM
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26. I was born a Democrat
and have kept the faith...
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mikewriter Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-04 09:03 PM
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27. When I learned how stuck up the GOP is
I was once a reublican in hs when my sister's friends mom became the first woman and GOP mayor of our hometown. I worked on her campaign and she won two terms. The third term she lost and was a complete jackass and complained about evrything. Now we have a demo. mayor and he is doing wonders for our small town. It was sometime after hs thought I educated myself about the political system and about what the differences are between GOP and the DEMS. I am now a die-hard Democrat.
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 02:45 PM
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28. When I was six
I was, unfortunately, listening to Rush Limbaugh with my father. He was laughing at the usual cracks at Clinton, and I was damn angry. My father then showed me his Bob Dole button, and he asked me if I would like one. I said no. When he asked why, I replied "No! I don't like stinky Bob Dole! I like Bill Clinton cause he's a democrat!" And of course I was punished. My father hates Clinton, and to hear those words from out of my mouth were like fire in his ears.

More recently, about four years ago, when I was ten, I was given the gift of Franken, and read Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot. It was like a gift from God because I had hated Limbaugh ever since I was introduced to him at age four. I said, "He's a big loud bully!"
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 03:01 PM
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29. For as long as I can remember I've been a Democrat
I thought you were born that way, like I was born Catholic and an Oldsmobile driver. My first political activity was was when I was still in grade school: stuffing envelopes for RFK's senate campaign while listening over and over to a recording of Sen. Dirksen singing "Wild Thing."
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Liberal Christian Donating Member (746 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-04 04:04 PM
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30. Became a Democrat when I was 10
Edited on Sun Jan-11-04 04:09 PM by WyoMee
When I was 6, it was 1960, and my dad was active in the Nixon campaign. I walked the sidewalks of our neighborhood chanting, "Nixon, Nixon, he's our man. Kennedy belongs in the garbage can."

I had die-hard Republican relatives on both sides of the family -- one branch produced a Republican congressman, the other a Senator, a congressman, a governor, etc. There was a lot to overcome, but . . .

Barry Goldwater ran when I was 10 and I knew I couldn't support him. So I supported LBJ and never looked back. In 1968, I was 14 and just coming back from living in England for a year with my family. We arrived back in the country during the Chicago convention and watched one of our best friends from home have his moment on national television as he decried the actions of the Chicago police. I started volunteering for Humphrey in the general election.

Got involved in Young Dems, then the senior party in high school and after college. (Too busy in college to be involved politically.)

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
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