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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:48 PM
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Most Overrated and Underrated US Presidents!
Underrated:

1. Jimmy Carter
2. Bill Clinton
3. James Madison

Overrated:

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Duh-bya
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mikewriter Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:54 PM
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1. Agree with Carter and Clinton
and also Reagan and the current George
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:56 PM
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2. I think clinton was overrated
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:00 PM
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3. Carter was the first victim of the Neo-con spin machine.
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Leftist78 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 10:23 PM
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4. ok here goes
overrated
1. George Washington
2. Ronald Reagan
3. Eisenhower
4. JFK Go ahead and flame. I'm prepared

Can't say on Dubya yet. He's still in office and history's opinion of him hasn't been written.

underrated

1. Jimmy Carter
2. James Madison
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:42 PM
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5. Here ya go
Overrated

1. Ronald Reagan
2. W (so far)
3. Eisenhower

Underrated

1. Grant
2. Carter
3. McKinley
4. Washington
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 11:52 PM
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6. my $0.02
Underrate:
Carter; LBJ

Overrate:
Ronald McDonald; Lincoln...

Lincoln, almost always #1 in best pres polls, never had any real beef against slavery. IF it had done well to serve tha nation to keep slaves, he'd done so. Plus, his victory was assissted by splitting a state in two... an act forbidden by the constitution (IV,3.1).
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:01 AM
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7. Not quite right
Lincoln did have a big beef against slavery. He was personally opposed to it. He believed he did not have the constitutional power to eliminate it where it already existed. And his primary goal was the preservation of the Union...without which, his views on slavery would have mattered little.

He was also the first President to meet with black Americans in the White House - Frederick Douglass at least twice, and I believe, Sojourner Truth.

The Emancipation Proclamation was framed as a military necessity to help it gain popular support in the military and the country, but Lincoln himself viewed it as the most important thing he accomplished.

Also, the 13th amendment (I hope I got the number right) banning slavery, was passed because of his persuasivenss, and he signed the bill passing it even though it had no legal weight.

I personally do not think it is possible to rate Lincoln too highly!
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