I like "Everybody Loves Raymond", but...

[TXlib]

I hate his mom! God, she pisses me off!

I'd have changed the locks on the doors, and established firm boundaries long ago, or moved the fuck away.

Oh, and is Patricia Heaton one fine MILF, or what?

[GOPisEvil]

1. Physically, she's attractive.

Politically...:puke:

[TXlib]

2. Don't know anything about her politics.

Is she a repuke? :(

[HERVEPA]

6. Strongly Anti-choice!

[GOPisEvil]

8. From what I hear, yup. She is.

:-(

[LynneSin]

3. If I spent $50k on Plastic Surgery I'd be physically attractive too

:eyes:

Personally, stuff like that makes them uglier

[joeybee12]

11. Actually, I like the fact that patricia is upfront about her plastic

surgery...gotta do it if you're in the biz!

[TXlib]

16. What work has she had done?

[joeybee12]

18. Mainly just face stuff--removing wrikles, etc...

...nothing like anose job or anything that really alters her looks. Just trying to look younger in a biz that worships youth!

[LynneSin]

22. She's had way more than that

See my post below from LHJ

[LynneSin]

20. From Lady's Home Journal

http://www.lhj.com/lhj/story.jhtml?storyid=/templatedata/lhj/story/data/everybodylovespatricia_01212003.xml

Soon enough, though, Heaton, 45, switches gears and talks about her own plastic surgery, which has included a tummy tuck (much needed, she says, after her four sons were all delivered by cesarean) and an accompanying breast lift. She also raises her chin to show where some loose skin had been lifted. She really does look terrific, thin and toned. She is wearing a sleeveless black top and Burberry plaid pants, which -- in the true test -- do not amplify her behind. On the contrary, you can barely find it.

[joeybee12]

26. I'd still say that's only due to the ravages of time, and acceptable

Face it, the biz she's in requires that stuff....she's 45 and roles to women that age don't come around every day.

[KensPen]

4. She has yoda ears too.....

and on the show they make her seem like a witch.

[SOteric]

10. Yeah, she's pretty radically and outspokenly right-wing.

I agree the mom character is infuriating, but the actress, Doris Roberts is excellent, as is Peter Boyle.

I don't really have time for the show, which is fine, because frankly I don't love Raymond. His mother may be infuriating, but he's a thoughtless, insensitive, self-obsessed, whining jerk of a person. It's Brad Garrett that's worth watching.

[TXlib]

14. Yes, I think the actress who plays his mom is great

but the character is very grating to me.

[supernova]

15. Feel the same

Brad Garrett is vastly underrated and underutlized. I wish more stories were about him.

Raymond? Just wanna smack him if I watch the show.

[TXlib]

12. How about Diane Neal

the redhead who plays the new ADA on Law & Order: SVU

[GOPisEvil]

17. I had to look he up. Grrrrrwoof! She's nice looking.

Although, I'll miss Stephanie March and those glasses...yowza!

[TXlib]

19. Every time I watch that show

with either Neal or March, I was always thinking, "Prosecute me, baby! Prosecute me!"

[GOPisEvil]

21. I'm with you.

I'd serve life without parole in their custody!

[TXlib]

25. Only if she were my prison guard

[TXlib]

31. How 'bout LEAH REMINI, the wife from King of Queens?

[mac56]

32. Ohhhh yeahhhhh.

She is hot. :9

[TXlib]

34. And Jami Gertz, the wife in Still Standing

[mac56]

35. She was so hot 15 years ago in "The Lost Boys".

Just doesn't do it for me anymore.

[TXlib]

37. Who did she play? Starr?

[mac56]

40. yup

nm

[GOPisEvil]

39. YUM!!!!

:9 I admire your taste in women!

[joeybee12]

5. My feelings are kind of reversed...I like Doris, but P. Heaton comes

off as much too shrill at times.

Anyway, I don't think it's been as good this year as in the past.

BTW, Patricia Heaton is a Repuke, but at least she's a fairly non-offensive one--haven't seen her donating large sums of money like Kelsey Grammar.

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. His mom is the exacting equivalent of my Morther in Law.

I am still waiting to move.

[terrya]

9. Ray Romano may just be the most annoying person on television.

I avoid this show like the plague because of this loud, boorish, unfunny "comedian".

[progressivejazz]

24. Thanks for saying that.

I agree. It's nice I'm not alone.

[mac56]

13. I think Patricia Heaton is hot -

but -

she's got kind of a wingnut tendency.

Example: She walked out of some awards ceremony one time, decrying the indecency and vulgarity being displayed there. Yet - she had no compunction about talking to any and every interviewer available about her boob job!

She is hot, though.

[Loonman]

23. Anti- Male

Why does every sitcom and commercial make men out to be total idiots?

[TXlib]

27. Because it's easy comedy.

maybe the demographics are mainly women.

[joeybee12]

29. Nah, it ain't easy comedy--Friends is easy comedy--

scenes that take 30 seconds are the easiest on television--that actors and actresses on friends show on filming day without having read the script. And they can get away with it because they only have one or two lines before the next scene.

[SOteric]

28. I take your point, really. But this one doesn't make

the women look any better.

The mother's a pain in the ass, the wife is a manipulative nag, and the new DIL/SIL is an insipid pushover. It's a smorgasbord of extraordinarily neurotic people who've taken it to it's most annoying extreme.

[Skittles]

30. Heaton - big ears and no neck

and republican to boot. UGLY.

[TXlib]

33. Are you going to kick my ass

for thinking she is a babe?

[Skittles]

38. she's f***ing gross, plastic

she is an ugly person - ever see her interviewed? And her playing The Goodbye Girl? TRAVESTY.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

36. I Like The Mom and Dad; Can't Stand Heaton

The mother character is a caricature of a typical overbearing Italian mother who coddles her sons. And Peter Boyle is a riot.