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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:19 PM
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The greatest political band of the last twenty years.
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 07:23 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Nostalgia is like rust, it catches up with everyone eventually. With that in mind I bought Forever Delayed - the Manic Street Preachers compilation. It's been out for about eighteen months, and I owned all but four of the songs on it, but yesterday, in a fit of longing for a long gone past, I picked it up.
The Manic Street Preachers were possibly the last band in the world who anyone would have expected to have a long term succesful career. The first I heard of them was in 1991, when I was fifteen and vulnerable to rock and roll. The band I saw on Top of the Pops looked like a third-rate glammed-up Clash, all tousled hair, bad eyeliner and polemic-strewn clothing. The song was 'You Love Us', which wasn't entirely appropriate, as it was in the lower reaches of the Top 40, and to be honest, catchy as it was, I dismissed it quickly, waiting for (the thankfully long-forgotten) Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine to come on.
But they stuck there in the back of my mind these valley boys who claimed that they would release one album, sell twenty million copies then explode, leaving, I should imagine, a good looking corpse.
Then, a few months later, another single was on TOTP, 'Motorcycle Emptiness', this one a Top 20 hit.
'Motorcycle...' was one of those songs that you can remember exactly what you were doing when you first heard it.

'Culture sucks down words
Itemise loathing and feed yourself smiles
Under neon loneliness motorcycle emptiness
Life lies a slow suicide
Orthodox dreams and symbolic myths
From feudal serf to spender
This wonderful world of purchase power'

The song shouldn't have worked I guess, musically being not too far removed from Guns and Roses, a long guitar solo, piano and orchestra, mediocre components that somehow made an extraordinary whole. This was beautiful, profound music that stuck out like a nail surrounded by euro-pop pap, whiny grunge and Kriss Kross. I was hooked.
The band went on for a couple of years, not selling twenty million records and not splitting up, but surviving, raiding the Top 40 with communiques from a parallel universe where Joe Strummer fronted Queen. Often an exquisite pearl slipped out, like La Tristesse Durera, an elegy for an elderly veteran.

'I sold my medal
It paid a bill
It sells at market stalls
Parades milan catwalks'

Then suddenly, shockingly the band collapsed. Chief propagandist and guitarist Richey Edwards drove his car to the Severn Bridge, not too far from his Cardiff home and was never seen again. It was all over.
Not quite, though. Just one year later 'A Design for Life' came out. The old Manics were dead, and a now three-piece had grafted the Phil Spector wall-of-sound onto an epic rock engine. The song, a hymn for the working class went to number 2 on the charts and was one of the biggest hits of the year, crushing the pop opposition with an extraordinarily profound rock record that encompassed the tragedy of the proletariat in a four-minute pop song.
Since then, the Manics have racked up ten more top ten hits, even managing to get two of them 'If you tolerate this, your children will be next' (about the Spanish Civil War) and 'The Masses against the Classes' a class-war manifesto to number one on the charts.
Why am I writing about this? I guess what I am trying to say is that sometimes eloquence and thought can win out in the most unexpected places, sometimes supposedly non-mainstream ideas can explode like flowers through concrete. The Manic Street Preachers, a socialist rock group could make records based on abstract political concepts sell millions and confront people with ideas that challenge bland normality. Anyway, rant over. If you ever wanted to hear what The Clash would be like if they made a record with Phil Spector and Brian Wilson, do yourself a favour and check out the Manics, and remember that sometimes, against all odds, truth and beauty can win out. And truth and beauty are the only things that really matter in the end.


'The masses against the classes
I’m tired of giving a reason
When the future is what we believe in'

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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:21 PM
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1. Sorry dude, but U2 is the best political ever.
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 07:43 PM by Kamika
Manic preachers might be ok, but No band will ever reach U2 when it comes to political music
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:06 PM
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29. But they're so dull...
and earnest and pompous and self-righteous and have been for the past twenty years. Still, they did invent The Blues and Gospel and Rock and Roll and all sorts of other stuff that the rest of the world thought they'd been listening to for decades.

I'd go for the Gang of Four myself.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:21 PM
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33. Yeah, they really challenge the bourgeois!
Taking stands against war and starvation. Is there any institution they won't attack?!

I'd say Gang of Four, too, and the Clash, but I guess both are older than 20 years (yikes!)

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:24 PM
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34. Oh, just thought of...Consolidated.
They took stands, boy!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:28 AM
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43. Consolidated will never be shown on TV...
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 10:38 AM by BigMcLargehuge
Consolidated is not attanable in stores...

Man they rocked my socks when I was a college DJ...

I LOVED the question and answer sessions at their live shows too, imagine having na audience completely baffled and angered by the content of your stuff, AND willing to humiliate themselves on a record? for example, "I believe in the bible and if you don't eat meat then you go to hell..."

Unreal, man, did they have their shit together or what?

Radical Vegetarian Anarchists!!!

Consolidated-olidated-olidated-olidated...
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:45 AM
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46. Well, something has to be said for the Sex Pistols
They WERE the first gritty band that would openly and literally say "FUCK YOU" to the establishment.

But Dead Kennedy's were a little more inttilectual...so I'll go with them.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:54 PM
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64. HAHAHA
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 04:55 PM by mitchum
hilarious, vicious and very true

You're also right about Go4 being the best
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:29 AM
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37. Really? U2 can't hold a candle to The Clash on that one.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:23 PM
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2. Minutemen.
Hands down.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:26 PM
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6. Yeah right, the Minutemen.
They wanted Michael Jackson to sing THEIR political songs. Effin' sell-outs.

;)

List monitors arrive with petition!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:15 PM
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53. Bob Dylan
wrote propaganda songs...
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:25 PM
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3. interesting question
My first thought was Midnight Oil, but also up there would be the Mekons, the Clash, Bad Religion, and I have recently been impressed by Anti-Flag. I will be interested to see what other names come up! There aren't nearly enough of them IMHO. But to have a fun, danceable political band, that would be the trick.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:26 PM
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oh how could I forget the Minutemen!
What was I thinking.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:26 PM
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5. Post-Clash. The Clash win the all-time trophy hands down.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:27 PM
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7. The Specials!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:27 PM
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8. Oh how could I forget the Minutemen!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:46 PM
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19. I'd go with the Oils too
with an honorable mention to the Minutemen.

This "System of a Down" band has me pretty impressed as well.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:26 PM
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4. I'd have to go with DK.

"Moral Majority"

You call yourself the Moral Majority
We call ourselves the people in the real world
Trying to rub us out, but we're going to survive
God must be dead if you're alive

You say, 'God loves you. Come and buy the Good News'
Then you buy the president and swimming pools
If Jesus don't save 'til we're lining your pockets
God must be dead if you're alive

Circus-tent con-men and Southern belle bunnies
Milk your emotions then they steal your money
It's the new dark ages with the fascists toting bibles
Cheap nostalgia for the Salem Witch Trials

Stodgy ayatollahs in their dobble-knit ties
Burn lots of books so they can feed you their lies
Masturbating with a flag and a bible
God must be dead if you're alive

Blow it out your ass, Jerry Falwell
Blow it out your ass, Jesse Helms
Blow it out your ass, Ronald Reagan
What's wrong with a mind of my own?

You don't want abortions, you want battered children
You want to ban the pill as if that solves the problem
Now you wanna force us to pray in school
God must be dead if you're such a fool

You're planning for a war with or without Iran
Building a police state with the Ku Klux Klan
Pissed at your neighbour? Don't bother to nag
Pick up the phone and turn in a fag

Blow it out your ass, Terry Dolan
Blow it out your ass, Phyllis Schlafly
Ram it up your cunt, Anita
Cos God must be dead
If you're alive
God must be dead
If you're alive
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:29 PM
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10. Anything involving Jello Biafra :) n/t
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:30 PM
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11. Oh post- Clash, now I'm really dating myself....
Makes you wonder about political bands from the 50s... were there any of those?
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:30 AM
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44. Dead Kennedy's for me too
hands down the hardest, timeliest, roughest, smarted guys in the scene.

Biafra's solo work (except Tumor Circus... blech) and work with Al Jourgeson is great too, not to mention his spoken word stuff.
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CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:29 PM
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9. The Austin Lounge Lizards
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:20 PM
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32. Dude
Are you trying to Evangelize with that graphic? You're never gonna save any souls that way.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:16 PM
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63. If she's going to hell -- count me in! :D
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:34 PM
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12. Who is this?
I was young then, and decieved then
I believed in the heart of the country.

From the words sound, there the truth lies
I was moved by the heart of the country.

Then I saw them, the charade from the side
Now I have it all.

When they ask you, "how apprise you?"
You reply: "The heart of the country".
I am older, and I am wiser, and despise
The heart of the country.

Then I felt it, from the tears and the grief
I believed it all.

Taking bad times, by the handful
Do what you can for the country
They fish the dirt out, hard to swallow
just to follow the Heart of the country.

say the words, and learn the lines
I'll be fine when I have it all.

Heart of the country
Ooooohhhh.
(repeat)

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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:37 PM
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13. Yeah, yeah, we saw your other thread.
We all remember them. ;)
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:39 PM
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14. Dancing! With tears in my eyes!
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 07:39 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Eeech. Midge Ure. Little rat man with his grubby trenchcoat.;-)

Aaaahhhh, VIENNA!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:41 PM
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16. I'm not a Midge fan, but "Answers to Nothing" had its moments
I'm actaully a HUGE fan of pre-Midge Ultravox-- his stuff was okay, but not nearly as good as the original line-up.

But most of Midge's stuff is too self-important in that Sting way. Just pisses me off, like that whiny little f*ck Billy Corgan.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:43 PM
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18. I agree with you about Ultravox
Their original line up was amazing.

Had to ROTFL over your comment about Corgan. :evilgrin:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:46 PM
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20. Yeah, there's something about him...
I've hated the Punkins since I first heard them, especially lead Whine-o-Naut Billie. What a fucking poseur.

I like what Steve Albini (Big Black, Rapeman, etc.) said about the punkins in the mid 90s. He called them the 90s equivalent of REO Speedwagon (i.e., they appear a little edgy, but they also seem to sound alright blasting out of the frathouse windows on a warm day).

Yeah, Albini can be a prick, but once in a while he gets a piece of one, and knocks it clear over the center fields wall :D
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:02 PM
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27. I'd never heard that Albini quote before - LOL
Yeah, that was a grand slam of epic proportions. He's made some great music and produced some amazing bands, but, you're so right, he really can be a dick!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:27 PM
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35. Albini also said, about Urge Overkill:
"Yeah, they're great. If they're not blowing people for quarters in some bus station five years from now, I owe you fifty bucks".


Steve Albini is great!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:40 AM
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45. Hey, I paid a buck for a BJ from Nash Kato!!!
I guess got ripped off...

Urge rocks, I don't care what Steve Albini says, and Nash Kato's solo record is great. They aren't even remotely political though.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:12 PM
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30. Oh' yeah! Pick one of their (his) worst songs...
I much prefer the songs where he's not trying to break glass with that voice of his.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:29 PM
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36. His cover of "The Man Who Sold the World" is beautiful!
It was the B-side of the "If I was" 12". It's gorgeous, as is his work with Japan's Mick Karn (who is also rat-like).
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:41 PM
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17. Damn!
Not as clever as I thought.:-(
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:39 PM
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15. Gang of Four, no doubt
"At Home He's a Tourist" is STILL awesome, 25 years later.

Punk rage meets funk beats, with Socialist lyrics on top of that. Andy Gill is one of the most under-rated and under-acknowledged guitarists of the century.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:02 PM
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28. I'm with you...
"Who owns what you do?
Who owns what you use?
This land is your land
This land is my land

Right now to touch flesh is real
Let us think only of the instant
There was something that I can’t remember
Did you say "i’ve had enough"?

We are in a happy state
It all comes to those who wait
While others plot the fate of nations
We spent the afternoons in an embrace

Somehow, you can’t block it out
The bitter taste of interference
We still try to construct the difference
The space between a word and it’s sense

We, it seems, can own ourselves
In imagination

Then you say, we make our own world
Not everyone takes what they are given
If we believe what we are saying
We have the chance to include ourselves out

Who owns what you do?
Who owns what you use?

Then you say, we make our own world
Not everyone takes what they are given
There was something that I can’t remember
Did you say "i’ve had enough"?

There was something that I can’t remember
We have the chance to include ourselves out"

Dennis rocks too! Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:10 AM
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48. Great band! Great Guitarist! Great song!
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 11:10 AM by BurtWorm
Now it's going through my head. Thank you!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 12:46 PM
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52. Oh wait, almost forgot about KILLING JOKE
I just thought of this one................ Andy Gill just produced the lastest disc from Killing Joke, one of the most apocalyptic post-punk bands of the early 80s.

You might know KJ from their song "Eighties", which Nirvana nicked for "Come as you are".

BTW, the new Joke disc BURNS. They've still got it after all these years. And they're touring again, too! I last saw them in 1996 on the Pandemonium tour-- one of the best shows I ever saw.

Almost as good as My Bloody Valentine on the US Loveless tour in '92, but I wouldn't go that far. ;-)

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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:49 PM
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21. Propagandhi
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 07:51 PM by FDRrocks
www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/propagandhi/



Today's empires, tomorrow's ashes

The tangled webs they weave span from Pine to Ruby Ridge, way back from Shay's defeat on up to Gustafsen (now cue the ass parade of ditto-heads and commissars and pricks to drown out this faintest threat of commie faggot heretics). Conclusion: the nail that sticks up gets hammered down and the master's finest tools are found slack-jawed and placid amidst the cacophony of screaming billboards and Disney-fied history. Sometimes the ties that bind are strange: no justice shines upon the cemetery plots marked Hampton, Weaver or Anna-Mae where Federal Bureaus and Fraternal Orders have cast their shadows; permanent features built into these borders. But undercover of the customary gap we find between History and Truth, the Founding Fathers bask in the rocket's blinding red glare. The bombs bursting in air. One nation. Indivisible? The truth is when the back-country learned of ratification the People had a coffin painted black and solemnly borne in funeral procession, they buried it deep in the earth as an emblem of the dissolution and internment of their Publick Liberty. Someday, somewhere, today's empires are tomorrow's ashes.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:51 PM
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23. good choice, saw them on tour with Fun-da-mental
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:55 PM
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25. Are they good live?
They never pay us a visit in the states :( I can guess why, as well.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:57 PM
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26. It was about eight or nine years ago,but I remember being pretty impressed
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:51 PM
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22. Rage Against The Machine!
I'm surprised no one's mentioned them yet...
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:16 PM
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31. You beat me to it
lyrics:

Know Your Enemy
Huh!
Yeah, we're comin' back then with another bombtrack
Think ya know what it's all about
Huh!
Hey yo, so check this out
Yeah!
Know your enemy!

Come on!

Born with insight and a raised fist
A witness to the slit wrist, that's with
As we move into '92
Still in a room without a view
Ya got to know
Ya got to know
That when I say go, go, go
Amp up and amplify
Defy
I'm a brother with a furious mind
Action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

Something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em

Fist in ya face, in the place
And I'll drop the style clearly
Know your enemy...Know your enemy!

Yeah!

Hey yo, and dick with this...uggh!
Word is born
Fight the war, fuck the norm
Now I got no patience
So sick of complacence
With the D the E the F the I the A the N the C the E
Mind of a revolutionary
So clear the lane
The finger to the land of the chains
What? The land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy?

Now something must be done
About vengeance, a badge and a gun
'Cause I'll rip the mike, rip the stage, rip the system
I was born to rage against 'em

Now action must be taken
We don't need the key
We'll break in

I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
I've got no patience now
So sick of complacence now
Sick of sick of sick of sick of you
Time has come to pay...
Know your enemy!

Come on!
Yes I know my enemies
They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams (8 times)


AND:

Killing In The Name
Killing in the name of!
Some of those that were forces are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that burn crosses
Huh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya (11 times)
But now you do what they told ya
Well now you do what they told ya

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
Some of those that were forces are the same that bore crosses
Uggh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya (4 times)
And now you do what they told ya, now you're under control (7 times)
And now you do what they told ya!

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Come on!

(Guitar solo: 'Yeah! Come on!')

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me (8 times building to a shout)
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me! (8 times screamed/shouted)
Motherfucker!
Uggh!



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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:31 AM
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49. Yup.
n/t
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 07:54 PM
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24. There was a European only group 'Latin Quarter'
...who as far as I know, only had 3-4 albums, but this pop group had 4 singers (2 female) and had some very clever lyrics. I never understood this one...Is Toulouse a motor city?

It's a lifetime from the leather stalls
The berbers and the bazaars
Down through every measured movement
In the making of the cars.

And it doesn't pay much
And it doesn't leave scars...
And it doesn't leave scars on the outside.

And they give you the impression
It's all Monet, and Bracke
but the oil they squeeze on the pallets
they never use on this track.

And every extra filter,
Is a fissure is a crack
And every extra filter is a fissure-is a crack, on the inside.

All this way, Toulouse
Another day, Toulouse
You've gone too far...Toulouse

And he walks in right behind you
as you both go punching in
and you both pick up your rivets from an aluminum bin
And he thinks what makes him different
Is the color of his skin
He thinks what makes him different is the color of his skin...
It's on the outside

All this way, Toulouse
Another day, Toulouse
You've gone too far...Toulouse

You've had their OAS
You've had their CGT
And no-one will be working here when they bring in CNC
(repeat)(repeat chorus)
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:31 PM
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55. I bought their 1st album
it had one good song on it - can't even remember the name...

it got some radio play in the US.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:58 AM
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38. No one has mentioned the Fight the Power
Public Enemy. What's the problem here??

Since the question is the last 20 years, otherwise I'd go with the Clash, Gang of Four & Minutemen. (in that order)

Rage Against the Machine gets props too, but Public Enemy has had a much wider impact and they're more adventurous



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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:03 AM
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39. Public Enemy would be in my top 5, but Professor Griff let them down
with his anti-semitic nonsense. PE were pretty weak on women's right too, which always surprised me given their otherwise righteous message.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:05 AM
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40. True
... but I don't have to agree with every opinion of a member of a band... that's why I rate them up there. I just don't think Chuck D can be ignored.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:07 AM
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41. For sure, Chuck D was incredible.
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progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:18 AM
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42. not a band, but gotta be Bruce Cockburn
IMHO... although U2 was and is great.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:52 AM
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47. Spaccanapoli -- hands down.
There is no comparison.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:36 AM
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50. does billy bragg count as a band?
:shrug:
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bubblesby2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:52 PM
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59. Billy Bragg
He's always been one of my favourites. So I think he counts.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:53 PM
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62. Probably not but he's pretty damned good solo, eh?
RATM and Bragg are my two favorites.
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Red_Storm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:40 AM
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51. RAGE and PE .............

no other bands come close...........
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:28 PM
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54. for me, Gang of Four
and Midnight Oil. Both had a huge influence on my political development.

honorable mention:

Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul

and best album -
"The Tower" - Legendary Pink Dots
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:31 PM
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56. Another Go4 fan!
And agreed about the Oils too. :toast:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:36 PM
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58. OMG! Legendary Pink Dots!
I never considered them political, but I love Master Ka-Spel and friends. I used to have tons of their stuff, but it's so hard to find! Between moving, thefts, etc, I only have a handful of Pink Dots LPs/CDs. I don't think I ever had The Tower.

My favourite of theirs/his is Ka-Spel's solo "Chyekk China Doll".

"Curse" is great, too, with that creepy, creepy "Waving at the Aeroplanes" track.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:41 PM
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60. "The Tower" is their most overtly political album
It's a concept record about a future fascist England. I think it's the last thing they did before leaving England for the Netherlands, so it's pretty early.


"tower three"

"The echo of a thousand marching boots hammers on the air. They're singing anthems, chanting oaths and whistle as Salome lifts her skirt because they're 'real' men and they're healthy, happy... own the place. They raise hell when they're sober, wrestle tigers when they're drunk. In their living rooms a picture of the queen nestles in between Miss August and a placard saying HOME IS WHERE THE HEART IS. (Keep it pure, keep it white. Keep it free of undesirables because freedom is so valuable and getting scarcer.). Fight! So they march. Smashing windows, splashing slogans, pushing petrol bombs through doors 'til a uniform appears. Gently whisper in the ear of the leader. "That's against the law but we'll ignore it this time. Peace Krime's got to be official!" Keep it clean. Keep it quiet. In a lonely moor the digger's working, bigger holes hold more... And the patriots stay in as convoys rattle down the street. No-one hears the weeping, no-one listens for the cracks at dawn. The shovelling goes on and on and on. But the patriots aren't frightened cos they heard it on T.V. that a Golden Age lies 'round the corner. And day now... "


released in 1984 - this song really struck me. It was the height of the whole "skinhead" thing. Reagan was about to get his second term. The world seemed pretty bleak.


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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 01:35 PM
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57. Bob Dylan
overall.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:17 PM
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67. Dylan also
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 05:18 PM by 56kid
For myself, I didn't nominate him since he moves between genres and almost transcends rock. I've seen him recently & he's still great live, in some ways better than ever.

(and if you nominate Dylan, then Bob Marley should get some votes too)
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:50 PM
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61. RATM
All this talk about poltical bands and only one person mentions Rage?
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:12 PM
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66. more than one
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 05:14 PM by 56kid
because I did & I know someone else did.

I'm curious why no one else has mentioned Public Enemy though, especially with all the flak given Dean recently about his affirmative action stance. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
(sorry if that is dangerously close to being a GD2004 primary topic):evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Syn_Dem Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:59 PM
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65. Since Im a relative young'n
I'd have to go with Anti-Flag, GREAT overt material.
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