If You Aint Watching "Heroes", Then I Feel Sorry For You

[Yavin4]

This is tbe best show on network TV.

[LibraLiz1973]

1. I'm watching

and tonights is kicking my ass!!!

[LibraLiz1973]

2. Oh yay Nathan is still a dick in the future

Yack

[TommyO]

23. Or is he? 0:44:00 into the show and I'm not so sure!

[LibraLiz1973]

3. OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!!!!!!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!

[kiahzero]

4. Um... yeah.

I was just literally rendered speechless.

[LibraLiz1973]

5. This is crazy fucking amazing

My jaw just dropped open

[kiahzero]

6. And the thing is, you can see how it all makes sense looking back.

It's not like the surprises are non-sensical.

[LibraLiz1973]

7. Your right... it ties together perfectly

This is some crazy shit!

[LibraLiz1973]

9. I would like to know when "The Switch" (SPOILER ALERT)

took place.
Will they tell us that in the next 2 min?
When did Sylar become Nathan?

[xmas74]

59. Well, he saw the picture that

Issac painted. He knew what he had to do.

I suspected when he saw it what would happen. I knew he had to get to Candice first, though.

What I've wondered for a long time now is this: if he were to obtain Peter's brain would he only absorb Peter's initial power or would he absorb everything that Peter had learned? If he were to absorb everything at once he wouldn't be impossible to kill-he'd probably die instead from lack of control.

And Claire-even though he took her brain we know that he can still die. Claire died when he cut into her brain so he can die the same way. What I don't understand is why future Hiro didn't go back in time to Charlie's murder, freeze time and while time was frozen merely chop off Sylar's head?


Maybe I think too much. Seems too easy to me to still kill Sylar (though I'm going back to the understanding evolution site to see what power would be able to defeat him. Supposedly Molly Walker, the little girl that was placed in hiding early on in the season after Parkman found her at her family's murder scene, is the only one that can defeat Sylar.)

At least Peter did have a really kick-ass scar.

on edit-and Future Hiro is pretty damn cute.

[Rob H.]

61. And even if he didn't absorb all of Peter's powers

would the fact that Sylar already has so many powers immediately kill him if he stole Peter's primary ability? I have to assume that Sylar's use of the powers he's absorbed is different from the way Peter accesses them--and Peter had to learn how to control his ability because being around more than a certain number of heroes could potentially be fatal to him. Sylar is sort of a "multi-hero" (or "multi-villain," technically) and it seems as if Peter's ability could overload and kill him outright once he absorbed it.

I remember Sylar seeing Peter go invisible and saying something like "Oh, I can't wait to try that one," but would he really be able to go invisble since Peter can access that power but doesn't really possess it? I guess we'd have to know more about the mechanics of how Sylar implements the abilities he's stolen to really know for sure.

And yeah, Peter looked like a badass with that scar. :)

[xmas74]

64. I agree with what you're saying.

Glad to meet another person on the boards who is overthinking this show!

But really-I would think that mere access to Peter's power would cause a meltdown.

[rosesaylavee]

62. About that kick-ass scar...

if he has healing powers from Claire, how come the scar? Chick magnet?

[xmas74]

65. This is my opinion only.

In order for him to use his powers he has to focus on the person. if he came into contact w/ that many powers at once-or one very hard to control power-he wouldn't be able to focus properly on what needed to be done.

He becomes the exploding man. Yes, he has Claire's power but, in a crisis like that, it's probably only enough to keep him alive.

And the scar gets rid of his emo look.

[rosesaylavee]

66. That makes some sense...

but scowl as he will, the emo look remains.

[xmas74]

68. It's because he doesn't look like he's about 30

IRL.

He has a young look to him. Many wish they too looked younger than they really are.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

73. whatever, Milo Ventimiglia is hot.

scar or no scar, emo or not emo... i would hit that.

[RevolutionaryActs]

8. I'll be watching it when it comes on here.

:bounce:

[LibraLiz1973]

10. Get ready... it is a WHOPPER

[RevolutionaryActs]

11. Woohoo!

Sounds good to me. :bounce:

[LibraLiz1973]

12. HOLY FUCKING SHIT! OH MY GOD!!! THIS IS CRAZY!!

WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW

[TommyO]

25. That cats that were surrounding me thought I was having a seizure!

The ran away from me like you wouldn't believe.

[salin]

13. It is a great show!

[LibraLiz1973]

14. Tonights Episode was HUGH!!11!! I'm series!!11!!

[Reverend_Smitty]

15. Dammit I have to wait a whole week to see what happens next

That was the best hour of TV I've seen in a long time

[LibraLiz1973]

16. Your not kidding. I cant wait til next Monday

So so so many questions

[THUNDER HANDS]

17. jeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee zzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuusssss

that was one amazing hour of tv.

[Guava Jelly]

nevermind

interesting

[Ariana Celeste]

19. pssst.... edit the spoiler out of your subject line

west coasters havent watched yet

[Guava Jelly]

21. sorry

:)

[Ariana Celeste]

22. hehe just watchin out for the west coasters

:)

[Guava Jelly]

18. dupe

[Ariana Celeste]

20. was a good fucking episode

I'm gonna miss next weeks, so I'll have to watch it online :(

[TommyO]

24. It's not too late to buy a TiVo!

I have all of this season's episodes safely tucked away on my expanded TiVo, and on my mac!

[Ariana Celeste]

27. if i had the money i would lol

but i'll be able to watch it on nbc.com afterwards :)

[Xipe Totec]

26. Thank you for your sympathy

I guess... :shrug:

[ContraBass Black]

28. I'd prefer to start from the beginning.

[lost-in-nj]

29. YEAH BABY !!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :hi: :hi: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:


lost

[Rob H.]

30. Gah! I want to see next week's episode NOW!

Only three left 'til the end of the season--can't wait to see how they tie all the storylines together, to say nothing of what the season-ending cliffhanger might be.

And one spoiler (highlight to read): Damn that Parkman, shooting Hiro in the back! Traitor!

[lost-in-nj]

31. Spoilers....

go to
www.aintitcool.com
he has lost and heros spoilers
he used to have Buffy ones to......... :cry:

lost

[Rob H.]

32. Sweet! Thanks, lost-in-nj!

BTW, have you heard about the "Buffy: Season 8" comic book series? I'm not sure that's the "official" title, but it's supposed to be really good and Joss Whedon is writing it. I'm trying to get around to ordering the issues that are out so far.

[Bridget Burke]

46. Note: I am not an employee of Dark Horse Comics, or TFAW....

But you can order your Buffy, Season 8 comics here:

www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/Buffy-the-Vampire-Slayer-Season-Eight-3___262197

#1 is in its 3rd printing & may be pre-ordered. #2 is in its 2nd printing & may be pre-ordered. But I liked the picture of Our Favorite Witch on #3--which may be pre-ordered!

[Rob H.]

57. See? This is why I love DU

Thanks, Bridget! :hi:

[TommyO]

39. Since each season is supposed to be self contained

I'll bet the cliffhanger sets us up for a whole new story arc that hasn't even been hinted at yet.

[xmas74]

60. According to Tim Kring initial reports about season two,

yes, a big part of one character's storyline has more than been hinted at.

Hint: someone who was on a quest to find a historical item this season will find out a bit more of the history behind that item next season-and possibly about himself.

[joshcryer]

33. My God I love this show.

Holy shitballs. My God.

[LibraLiz1973]

34. Fuckaluckadingdong

that ep was the balls

[FVZA_Colonel]

35. I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT WAS HIM!

As soon as I heard those comments about "being special" from "Nathan" during the previews of this week's episode last week I knew it was Sylar! Though I was expecting Hiro to finally end up back in the Cretaceous period.

Also, the idiots at my university's public safety department just happened to think that 9:03 would be the perfect time for a fire drill for my dormitory! ;(

[Skittles]

36. don't care for it

not at all

[Mojambo]

72. It was real rough during the first half of the season

I almost gave up on it, but frankly, they've come a long way.

I'm kinda bummed that we have to go back to the past storyline again now, as almost every character was immensely more interesting in the future. Particularly Peter and Matt Parkman.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

37. It's not better than Lost, but it's really damn good. (nt)

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

38. Guhh! I just watched it.

Since I'm in Italy I have to d/l each episode... last night's was friggin crazy!

[philosophie_en_rose]

40. Did we actually see (spoiler/ speculation)?

Did we see Future Hiro die? Future Sylar is right outside the door, so he might get to Future Hiro.

Time travel hijinx ensue.

:popcorn:

Future Sylar going back in time to stop current Hiro. . . oooooh.


Other thoughts:

Future Matt Parkman is a complete dick. And how could he NOT know that Nathan was Sylar?

RIP HRG! Best character on the show.

Couldn't the Haitian "see" Sylar's memories and maybe wipe them out? No memory = less threat, maybe de-evilize Sylar?

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

41. yeah

Future Parkman was so disappointing! What the hell? Complete asshole.

[LibraLiz1973]

42. Future Parkman was a complete dick

Total spineless loser

[FVZA_Colonel]

52. Well, let's just hope that Hiro's going back in time

will give him a chance to take a different path in life.

[slj0101]

44. Better yet, how did Mohinder not catch on?

He finally got wise to Sylar that first time, but again, it wasn't until the bodies started piling up in their wake...

[philosophie_en_rose]

90. Mohinder isn't exactly Hercule Poirot.

He seems to have good intentions, but always manages to be Sylar's best friend forever.

[LynneSin]

43. Two years ago you said that about "Lost" and "Desparate Housewives"

I tried them, found them interesting for a bit but I pretty much gave up on both of them.

I'd rather watch "The Sopranos"

[LibraLiz1973]

69. I DID say it about LoSt but never ever about Desparate!! lol

And LoSt is still pretty good.

This show is just so amazing.


I'm a Sopranos fan too!! Soo sad that this is the end.

Do you think Paulie will die?

[Shell Beau]

93. I want to see Paulie go! I haven't like him from the get go!

[Debi]

45. I'm gonna have to buy the DVDs so I can go back and firgure this all out

What a fantastic show....awesome :bounce: (Is it next Monday yet???)

[TommyO]

47. Even though I've TiVo'd and watched every episode this season

the DVD collection will be a birthday gift to myself, and it better be available by August 19th!

[Debi]

48. Can I come over and watch?

I'll bring the popcorn!! :popcorn:

[TommyO]

49. Sure! Heroes marathon this summer!

Specifics to be announced.

[Debi]

53. I'll be waiting for my invite

right here :toast:

[TommyO]

54. Maybe I'll have to get one of these gizmos

http://www.frontgate.com/jump.jsp?sort=-1&itemType=PRODUCT&AS=1&keyword=superscreen&itemID=1496&iProductID=1496

Using our SuperScreen ™ Outdoor Theater System, with its giant, inflatable screen, you can make the most of your pool or patio by bringing up the lights on movies and video games. Now you can host outdoor film screenings for family and guests in a big, high-quality way.

Of course, from Frontgate you know it's expensive, but what price can you put on annoying your townhouse neighbors?

[Debi]

55. Hey, could we all set up tents and sleep out on the front yard? n/t

[TommyO]

56. Tent is more like it - very small front yard

That's a good thing, it means very little upkeep required.

[Debi]

58. Will you rent a port-a-potty? n/t

[TommyO]

70. What I lack in front yard space, I make up for in bathrooms

Two full, two half (for one person and three cats).

[Debi]

75. Each cat gets its own bathroom?

You do live the high life!!

[datasuspect]

50. so was MASH in 1973

or "your show of shows" in the 50s.

no new information.

disconnect your television.

[Poll_Blind]

76. Spot on! n/t

PB

[PVnRT]

77. OMG you are such a rebel

Thank you for sermonizing. Have a nice day.

[datasuspect]

80. what's rebellious about not understanding the fascination with network television broadcasts?

if making a deliberate choice to reduce the amount of advertising inputs (and advertising is the basis for most television programming content) in one's life is rebellious, then i guess i'm a rebel. i just thought it was discernment.

[Blue-Jay]

82. Area Man Constantly Mentioning He Doesn't Own A Television

CHAPEL HILL, NC–Area resident Jonathan Green does not own a television, a fact he repeatedly points out to friends, family, and coworkers–as well as to his mailman, neighborhood convenience-store clerks, and the man who cleans the hallways in his apartment building.

"I, personally, would rather spend my time doing something useful than watch television," Green told a random woman Monday at the Suds 'N' Duds Laundromat, noticing the establishment's wall-mounted TV. "I don't even own one."

According to Melinda Elkins, a coworker of Green's at The Frame Job, a Chapel Hill picture-frame shop, Green steers the conversation toward television whenever possible, just so he can mention not owning one.

"A few days ago, Annette was saying her new contacts were bothering her," Elkins said. "The second she said that, I knew Jonathan would pounce. He was like, 'I didn't know you had contacts, Annette. Are your eyes bad? That a shame. I'm really lucky to have almost perfect vision. I'm guessing it's because I don't watch TV. In fact, I don't even own one."

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28694

[datasuspect]

83. that's pretty funny

i used to like the onion before they sold out. (ha ha)


actually i'm surrounded by televisions. there at least three in the place where i stay.

during the daytime, they stay off.

evenings, i usually go outside and read a book or stare listlessly into space.

television was a difficult addiction to break. it's like the default thing to do, a completely passive activity that accomplishes nothing.

anyway, i don't need to have one on if it's in the room with me anymore.

kinda nice in a way.










give a hoot, read a book, and no, stephen king doesn't count.



toodles

[Blue-Jay]

88. I don't watch a lot of TV.

I do, however, TIVO a few shows.

I love that Onion piece, though.

[dropkickpa]

51. Totally addicted to this show

I was bouncing all over the place!!:bounce:

[EstimatedProphet]

63. I wanted you to feel sorry for me. That's why I don't watch it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

67. Don't.

:hi: Feel sorry for me, that is. I lead a full and rewarding life.

[NNadir]

71. The best show on network TV?

But can you say something to recommend it?

[Connonym]

74. Does Sylar eat the brains?

I've never been quite clear on that. Does he only absorb the powers if he kills and/or eats the other hero or is he like Peter and only has to be around them?

[Orrex]

78. Well, consider the way they've handled the crime scenes

They've never said "and we found the brains over there," so I conclude that the gray matter is not at the site. Presumably, since he wasn't able to absorb the acute-hearing-woman's power by proximity, nor was he able to grab Claire's or Peter's abilities, he must... um... process the brains in some way to do so.


Sylar is awesome, however. He could have been totally lame and trite, but he's been the most gratifyingly creepy character on all of recent television IMO.

[THUNDER HANDS]

79. i don't think so

I think his 'power' is that he figures out how things work, and by removing the brain of the heroes, he somehow gains their power. Eating it seems kind of unnecessary. Obviously, as we've seen by Claire and Peter, the brain is the essential part of the superhero power, disable it or remove it, and you render their "power" useless. Maybe cutting someone open and examining the brain is how he gains his powers, not necessarily by eating the brain.

[xmas74]

84. I don't think he eats them.

He was a watchmaker and repairer by trade at first. He said then that he was very good at figuring out how things work.

My grandfather, when he was alive, was a tinkerer. He loved radios and used to take them apart and put them back together on a regular basis, just to figure out how they worked.

IMO, this is exactly what Sylar (or Gabriel Gray, that is) does-he removes the brain, takes it with him, takes it apart and reassembles it to figure out how it works.

[Connonym]

85. ok, that makes a lot of sense

I had forgotten about the tinkering thing. Makes perfect sense. This is one of the things I love about the internet -- other people to help me analyze Lost, Heroes and Battlestar Galactica.

[xmas74]

86. Three shows I watch frequently.

I'm into sci fi

[Orrex]

91. A convincing theory, but...

In the case of the metal-melting guy and the super-hearing woman, Sylar absorbed their powers in astonishingly short order, which means (I guess) one of two things:

His basic power is the ability to perform that brain-analysis in seconds or minutes

or

He absorbs the power from the brain in some more direct manner



Hard to say which IMO, given the limited onscreen evidence either way...

[xmas74]

94. Actually, we don't know the amount of time.

The woman-it could have been an overnight thing. She was not discovered until the next day-plenty of time to take it w/ him and dissect it.

And the metal man-that too could have been hours. Suresh had to travel to reach him while Sylar already knew of the location. The metal man just assumed it was Suresh at the door since he had called him. In his case Sylar didn't have to take it w/ him. He might have had a few hours in which to dissect it right there in the victims home.

They've never said that the brains have been consumed. I really think he's been tinkering w/ them instead of eating them. Besides, the evolution site that the show has up basically explains his power and it supposedly comes from observation. (Meaning consumption would do no good. Now, if he chooses to consume afterward for kicks I wouldn't be surprised but to initially gain the power I'd say no. It was also mentioned that he didn't have to kill to gain the power but chose to do so.)

[Orrex]

95. Ah ha! I haven't been to that site, but that's good info

So maybe the brain-eating would just be a sort of epicure's diversion, rather than a necessary driver of his power.

[xmas74]

96. Exactly.

I'll try to find the site for you sometime. It explains exactly what each person's power is, how it works and it gives you an idea of what future heroes will have. (I need to find the site to find out exactly what power Molly Walker has-according to the commercials her power is the only one that can stop Sylar.)

Also, be sure to read the weekly comic at nbc.com for Heroes. They've explained quite a bit of the backstory about how Linderman and Papa Petrelli actually met.

I try not to say too much because I never remember if I heard it on the show or read it on one of the many interactive sites. (The voting thing that Hana is doing right now is really kinda fun.)

[mike_c]

81. lol-- feel sorry for me then....

I don't watch TV.

[bigwillq]

87. I've never watched it

and don't ever plan on doing so.

[Jamastiene]

89. I think you should all take up a collection and buy me the entire

collection of episodes of both Heroes and Lost. I watched them at first but had to miss 1 episode then got so lost I couldn't catch up. I'd love to have both on DVD in their entirety up to this point. :P

Jericho is great too, IMHO.

[Initech]

92. I'm going to get the DVD when it comes out

I hate waiting weeks between episodes, and shows like that are infinitely more enjoyable with no commercials.

[CraftyGal]

97. It was an awesome episode...

although our DVR stopped recording before it ended, so I don't know what happened at the end.

Did Hiro and Ando time travel out of the room?
Did something happen during the fight with Peter and Nathan/Sylar?
Why is Parkman such a dick in the future?
What happened ti Mika? Jessica/Nikki?
Interesting about the Haitian.

What was really intriguing was the parallels to what is going on in the world today.

Crafty

[xmas74]

98. Niki stated earlier in the episode that she lost Mikah and D.L.

during the explosion, though D.L. was one of the people that Hiro requested when speaking w/ Bennett.

The episode should be up right now at nbc.com. They usually some decent commentary from the actors along w/ the episode. Watch the commentary sometime and you can tell that the actors seem to enjoy working with each other.