yet one more pit bull attack

[datasuspect]

yeah, there are only bad owners . . .



RIIIIIIGHT.


Pit bull breaks free, injures two young girls
By: PAUL S. MARTINEZ, The Enterprise
05/04/2007

SILSBEE - Darron Turk welcomes his family members for food and fellowship every Sunday after church.

Last Sunday was even more special as the family had just returned from Lubbock, where Turk's two sons - Darrion, 13, and Kelton, 12 - had taken first place in the statewide Little Dribblers basketball competition.

But the gathering took an ugly turn when Turk's year-old pit bull, named Midnight after its jet black coat, snapped its chain.

The dog attacked Turk's niece, 5-year-old Aladrrien Simmons, biting her left calf, Turk recalled.



http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18299390&BRD=2287&PAG=461&dept_id=512588&rfi=6

[Orsino]

1. Bad owners and bad breeders.

Design a dog to fulfill the worst human macho fantasies, and that's what you'll get. Fail to socialize and train one, and it'll be a killer. Fail to restrain one, and it will kill.

[RebelOne]

2. In my experience, I have found that dogs like pit bulls

become very aggressive when chained. My Rottweiler is a big, lovable baby, but if tied up, she becomes a snarling menace. I never chain her now.

[Tyler Durden]

3. Pit Bull is now a MEME for "vicious dog," and just about as valid.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html#Thedogsmostlikelytobite

"The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictability is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)"

[Shell Beau]

4. OMG! That is a terrible tragedy!

:cry:

[Tyler Durden]

5. Of course it is. My CORGI would take your arm off if you were a burglar....

Any other time, the worst she'll do is lick you to death.

Answer: TRAINING and more stringent licensing.

[Shell Beau]

6. My mini-pin would do whatever it took to protect me.

All in all, dogs are animals. They can be unpredictable. I am sure this man never thought in a million years his pom would kill his neice. It does take some serious training and responsibility to be a pet owner of any kind of pet.

[xchrom]

7. lets post every interaction that a pittie has that doesn't end in a tragedy

and see how it all weighs out.

[datasuspect]

8. that'll work

i just don't like those beasts.

[xchrom]

9. and i do.

[datasuspect]

10. to each his own

i'm not much of a dog person anyway.

[Shell Beau]

11. Are you my neighbor? Do you own a shovel?

I kid!!! :P

[datasuspect]

14. i read that about what happened to you

you are an infinitely patient person.

did everything get worked out?

[Shell Beau]

15. Not really, but I know now that I really have to keep an eye on my neighbor.

I wussed out and never called the cops. But if I see anything that even remotely seems threatening, I will call every cop I know! I would hate to be my enemy! Just sayin'!!

[datasuspect]

16. he needs his ass whooped

get him on your property and do it though.

[xchrom]

12. and i love dogs.

[datasuspect]

13. that's cool

i love people.

a human life to me has the most amount of value out of any creature. so long as that human does not violate the social contract and does not intentionally seek to harm another person.

humans are the only animal i wouldn't conceivably eat.

i'm not a completely horrible person, i would never want to see anything or anyone suffer unnecessarily, but i am as emotionless as a scientist when it comes to vicious or attacking animals.

you seem like a great person, and i don't want to be offensive toward you personally. but i'm the type of person who could shoot a pit bull (or any animal or person) without hesitation if it was endangering a human life and not feel bad about it. so i'm probably not gonna give responses to you that seem very nice.


that being said, i'm sure there are completely wonderful pit bulls out there, but bad news gets press because it makes money.

still, if i had a pit bull i would have to treat it like a loaded weapon (that is just being responsible) and that is not a pet i'd care to have.

[Coventina]

18. The older I get, the more I love animals.

In my nearly 40 years of life, I've found the non-human species that I have interacted with to be generally nicer than the humans.

Don't get me wrong, there are many humans that I love and that are wonderful specimens of their species.

But in general, I've found that (domesticated) animals are more loving, accepting and fun to be around than people.

And wild animals very rarely kill out of any urge but fear or hunger. They haven't started any wars in my lifetime and they don't cause any pollution that Mother Nature hasn't planned for.

Yep, it seems to me that non-humans are generally better than humans.

[datasuspect]

19. i still have hope for humanity

and i am an dyed-in-the-wool cynic who believes in practically nothing.

with the exception of nature, the earth, and love.

[xchrom]

21. i think you and i feel the same about each other.

i don't think you think i'm a great person -- and i'm not to most people really.
just those i care for.

i think you're as dangerous as the animal you're concerned about -- and i probably wouldn't want you for a neighbor if you have a gun. -- that shooting thing see.

i'd eat a person before i would some animals. but that's just me -- and like as not i'll never see that in my lifetime -- so it's all braggadocio to make stupid claims like that anyway.

most pitties go to their graves never having a negative encounter with another being -- other than doggie manners.

and most people go to their graves never having a negative experience with pitties.

yet that's not the colouration we give them.

and as evidenced by your own post -- encounters with any living being can be rife with danger -- yet we live with dogs, horses, pigs, cats, etc because by and large they improve the quality of our lives. danger included.

unless of course you're anxious to shoot things to make some point about your superior ''love'' for your neighbors.

[datasuspect]

22. well, you are the one who made this interaction distasteful

i tried to engage you in as civil a manner as possible and endeavored to express myself as i really am and you took the low road.

please notice, i said nothing about you personally and strove to explain things in such a way as not to offend you. however, i realize my position might be offensive to you. but, unfortunately, that's just too bad.

i deal with many people i disagree with, sometimes fundamentally disagree with and being an adult, i always need to realize that in this world that's just the way it is.

regardless of your insinuated characterization, i am neither trigger happy nor irresponsible.

i made no claim about "superiority." that's your interpretation.

and you know what, i've never read anything by you to make me think that you aren't a decent person and i still think that you are. i would never be ready to affix a label to someone with so little as information as you just did by personally attacking me. you calling me dangerous is uncalled for and extraordinarily rude, but hey, big fucking deal. it isn't any skin off my back. i know everyone is different.

but we all have our frailties i guess.

btw, i'd probably eat your dog before i'd eat any human. i'd become a vegetarian (shudder) before i even thought about consuming human flesh.

color me dangerous.

[xchrom]

23. lol -- your internet indignation is amusing.

i saw nothing in your reply that was civil -- couched -- yes -- superior -- certainly.

and you're a braggart -- all this ''i'd eat your dog'' -- puh-leez, miss thing -- as if.

give it a rest.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. I love dogs, but I would never own a pit bull or a pit mix. There are

certain breeds of dogs that have been bred for certain traits for long that they are hardwired for certain types of behavior. Some dogs are hardwired to track, some to retrieve, some to herd and some to fight. Unfortunately for pit bulls, regardless of their good qualities, they have been bred for fighting long enough that this trait cannot be trained out of them and it makes some of them very unpredictable. To make matters worse, most pit bull owners get the dogs for all the wrong reasons and then don't spend the time or effort necessary to socialize them or even give them minimal training. These account for most of the negative stories that we hear about IMO.

[dropkickpa]

20. It all comes back to

the lack of enforcement and strong consequences for inhumane acts towards animals and uncontrolled breeding. The consequences for abusing animals are pitifully minor, even though time and again it has been proven that a disregard for animal life directly correlates to a disregard for human life. A puny fine and a slap on the wrist is no deterrant to a dog fight ring participant or unethical breeder.

Uncontrolled breeding has ruined MANY fine breeds. Keep in mind too that there are over 20 separate breeds that get labeled as "pit bull" in the media. One of the hallmarks of well-bred pit bulls is their NON-aggression towards humans. Pit bulls were the first UKC breed to be registerd.. It is only in the last 15-20 years with the sharp increase in uncontrolled breeding, severe inbreeding, and breeding for fighting that we are hearing these stories. Fighting is an illegal activity that is poorly policed, even though there are strong ties to gambling, drug, gang, and extortion operations with dog-fighting, not to mention many other crimes. A city the size of NYC warrants, what, 8 animal control officers? How ridiculous is that??

I am a vet tech and worked in a shelter for a while and saw MANY pit bulls come through. The horrors I saw were unbelieveable, the damage done to these poor animals by their "owners" (I prefer the term tormentor for these guys). Many of them were animal control seizures, and yet the owners rarely ever faced prosecution.

Man Guilty in Dog's Death

Washington Post, Thursday, April 8, 1999

A Reston man who beat his Pit Bull to death in February pleaded guilty yesterday to one count of animal cruelty and was sentenced to two days in jail. Fairfax County District Court Judge Richard T. Horan imposed a 60-day sentence on Frank A. Bigham, of the 12000 block of Greywing Square, but suspended 58 days. Bigham struck the dog, Jawbone, after the dog snapped at him while Bigham was disciplining the dog for urinating on the floor.

Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

Increase the severity of punishment for these types of crimes. The demonizeation of the breed is just increasing the severity of abuse these animals suffer. People keep hearing about how they are crazy, unsafe, unworthy to be alive, and their actions are reflecting this attitude. The most severe acts of monsters I've ever seen have been perpetrated against this breed, the viciousness is staggering. This is why I don't work in shelter medicine right now. My heart just can't take it both for the animals pain and my faith in the overall goodness of people.

It's always "Pit bull attacks" but just "Dog Burned" with breed identification (if any) buried within the article.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. I guess you must be worried about pits.

What when your down in da hood, buying your drugs, yo.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x6481777#6481786

:rofl: