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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:17 PM
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This Frank Zappa quote will chill you...
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way, and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theatre."
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:25 PM
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1. That must have been some GOOD
orange barrel!
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:42 PM
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3. you are showing your
age :hippie:
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:47 PM
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5. Zappa always claimed (attn RKZ confirm or deny)
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 03:48 PM by 56kid
that he never did that stuff.
RandomKoolZip needs to check in to confirm or deny this.

(whoops, this is response to response 1)
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:53 PM
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6. I'm not RKZ, but I will confirm.
Zappa did not do drugs. Even if he hadn't said it, think about the kind of guy he was: a hard-working perfectionist as far as his music was concerned; in total control -- not the kind of person to want his mind messed up by drugs.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:03 PM
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8. As sharp as Mark Twain
FZ's political thought is very much like Twain's. Twain also spoke of our civilization as a product to be sold--one version for the peoples we subjugated, and one for domestic consumption.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:14 PM
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9. Zappa was contemptuous of drug users
and merciless on any musician who came to a recording session or concert high. He fired dozens for that.

Unka Frank didn't need Purple Haze for insight. He used his brain.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:33 PM
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12. Zappa always seemed amused but not part of the hippie thing
long before my time, but it's true he claimed to not do drugs at all, and was constantly poking fun at the hippie/stoner/ free love culture of the time.

About his perfectionism as a reason to not do drugs, you're probably right.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:40 PM
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15. BNope, no drugs for Frank
In his book "The Real Frank Zappa" he mentions trying pot a couple times, but hated it because it dried his throat out.

Cigarettes, coffee, and genius were his motivators.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:36 PM
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2. and we are seeing that curtain pulled away right now
he got out while the gettin' was still good

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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:25 PM
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10. What did he die of?
I hope it wasn't anything serious.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:35 PM
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13. your post gave me a fit
Subtle. I promise to use this one repeatedly.
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Barad Simith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:40 PM
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19. I should confess now...
I stole that line. Cassandra Peterson ("Elvira") said it in her movie, Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.

It was one of only two funny lines in that movie, in my humble opinion. The other was when her show was opening that night, and she raised her glass in a toast and said:

"Here's to my big opening! Well, what I mean is ... oh, never mind."
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:43 PM
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14. I think it was prostate cancer

But it's been 10 years since Zappa died, so my memory could be faulty.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:42 PM
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16. Yep - prostate cancer
Hard to believe it's been ten years, but yep, last Dec. 4. So sad.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:45 PM
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4. That's it! I'm putting that on my sig...
Saw somwone MaryPat(?) with it on her sig. Brutal quote!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:44 PM
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18. That's right. Let's share it around. It's too dead on to keep under wraps.
Frank Zappa was a prophet.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:54 PM
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7. Great quote! Do you know when he said it, in what context?
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 04:54 PM by notmyprez
That's one that I'm not familiar with. It also sounds kinda like "The Matrix."
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:43 PM
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17. If memory serves, he said it at least in his "real Frank Zappa" book
Though he might have said it earlier elsewhere, I'm pretty sure that's where I remember reading it. Alas, I don't have my copy available to me right now. reminds me it really is time to pull it out and read it again.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 07:31 PM
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11. I got a Zappa quote for you
I don’t need no consolation
I don’t want your reservation
I only got one destination
And that's your dirty love

Oh, but the other one was good too.
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