Bite me once, shame on you...

[Gormy Cuss]

Okay now. If a friend's snarly dog bites you, isn't that a BIG hint that the dog doesn't like you?

Petaluma woman attacked for second time by same pit bull

Friday, May 18, 2007

(05-18) 16:14 PDT Petaluma, Calif. (AP) --

A Petaluma woman suffered major injuries when she was attacked by a pit bull that had bitten her before, authorities said.

Isabel Pollium was visiting a friend Thursday when the 3-year-old dog, named Dozer, attacked Pollium as she reached for the telephone.

Pollium ran and hid in a bathroom, but the 90-pound dog reportedly "broke the door down and went after her," said Nancee Tavares, Petaluma's animal services manager.
...
Tavares described Dozer as "scary" and said, "We want to euthanize him immediately, because he's too dangerous for the staff, even with security measures."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2007/05/18/state/n161447D77.DTL

[mainegreen]

1. Look! Another pitbull story!

:rofl:

Sure they're nice dogs.

[billyskank]

2. I think we're being prepared for something

Is Bush about to announce a War On Pit Bull Terriers?

[philosophie_en_rose]

4. It's been war all along.

Haven't you heard of the War Against Terrier?

[pokerfan]

7. LOL

Cleaning coffee off my monitor...

[SPKrazy]

20. Damn you Woman!

war against terrier

:spray:


:rofl:





good one



bad




but good!

[Gormy Cuss]

3. Silly green.

They actually have the capacity to be nice dogs, but that requires owners with the brains, skills, and patience to bring'em up right -- owners who recognize that no matter how sweet and well tempered they seem, if they ever go off they're fucking killers.

[mainegreen]

5. True. Much like german shephards.

I've known some great german shephards, but in the wrong hands those are bad dogs.

Idiots and assholes should be forced to own chihuahuas if they want dogs.

[Coventina]

6. Idiots and assholes shouldn't be allowed to own any animal.

The only problem is how to regulate something like that.

[idgiehkt]

8. probably a mixed breed

probably a pit mixed with some other type of bulldog, 90 pounds is really big.

[flvegan]

10. Likely not even a pit bull

90 pounds? Highly unlikely. Probably a cane corso or something like that.



Even I'll say it...canes are seriously scary dogs.

[idgiehkt]

12. I was looking up stuff on google and found a breed I'd never heard of

a kangal

apparently these are sometimes used in dog fights in turkey, although they are originally herding dogs



another one I just learned about, the dogo argentina



also presa canarios, like the ones that attacked and killed Diane Whipple


lotsa big scary dogs in the world...

[flvegan]

14. Check out the Ovcharka

The Caucasian Volkodav (Ovcharka) is a monster. This is the preferred dog in Russia for dogfighting:



They can weigh in at 200 lbs, and when trained to act as such, are absolute killing machines.

[idgiehkt]

17. good lord

I have never heard of them either. looks alot life a newfie or a st. bernard. wow.

[flvegan]

19. They're wolf killers.

Wait'll the dogfighting morons over here catch on to them.

[bicentennial_baby]

24. OMG, I want one....

That is, a puppy one, that hasn't been trained to murder other living things for sport or such...Awwwww! So beautiful!

[flvegan]

25. Probably won't mix well with the new kitten(s)

But then, if you got one as a puppy, they'd look really cute when all grown up, what with 200 lbs of wolf killing canine with a kitty snuggled under the chin and a front paw.

[Gormy Cuss]

16. How about an obese pit bull?

The dog obviously isn't getting proper guidance if it bit someone over a year ago and then bit her again. I'd guess the poor thing was raised by an idiot who thinks of it as a warm-blooded weapon. That sort isn't necessary worried about the dog's health either and would think bigger=better.


on edit: in the source story linked from SF Gate, the dog is described as a purebred. I realize that isn't proof, but I wonder whether that detail came from. The article also quotes the owner blaming the woman for the attack because she screamed and that 'triggers' the dog. Sheesh.
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070519/NEWS/705190339/1033/NEWS01

[flvegan]

18. Purebred, maybe, pit bull, doubtful.

A 90 lb pit would be too fat to even care. A 65 lb pit is BIG for a pit. Unless this dog is a genetic phenomenon, I doubt it. Either the weight is wrong or the breed is wrong. If he's 90 lbs, he's a presa, cane or dogo.

[dropkickpa]

21. Or perhaps American Bulldog

Look like pits, but bigger (I know a LOT of people who say "Purebred pit bull" when they are talking out of their asses)!

[flvegan]

22. Possibly, yes, but Dozer would have to be one

seriously f'd up American Bulldog to be that aggressive. I could see the weight/appearance thing, though.

[Gormy Cuss]

23. never heard of a dogo before today but now that I see one,

I can see why most people would call that a pit bull. It does look like a giant version of one.

The only pitbull that I've known well was a big guy, easily 60 pounds when he was young and probably closer to 70 lbs in his dotage. Loved to destroy Kongs and chase rodents but otherwise a pretty easy going dog.

[dropkickpa]

26. So the woman starts yelling and running for the owner

holding her arm out. Hmmm. A protective dog may percieve that as an attack on their owner, right?

And the dog did not "break the door down". It's this idiotic fear-mongering language that makes the hysteria greater.

As per the source article: http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070519/NEWS/705190339/1033/NEWS01

The phone rang and Pollium answered, then began yelling for Haltom and rushing over to give her the phone, she said.

"He just stopped her in her tracks," Haltom said, adding that Pollium knew that screaming and yelling and running are "triggers" that upset Dozer.

Haltom said she interceded and Pollium was able to flee and hide in the bathroom.

Haltom reassured her that the bathroom door was closed, she said. But Pollium had not latched it, and when Dozer was let loose he pushed the door open, Haltom said.

Also, in 4 different articles on the incident, the dog's age was reported differently in two of them.

[Gormy Cuss]

27. The Santa Rosa paper is more or less the hometown newspaper

and the other California pick ups of this story are mostly crediting it as their source and the dog's age as 3.

But still, the reason I posted this in the first place is what would possess someone to return to a house with this dog AFTER the animal bit her? The Santa Rosa story also gives more info on the dog's history and it doesn't sound like the dog is well socialized period.

op cit:

In 2005, the 3-year-old purebred, named Dozer, bit Pollium's leg but she declined to press charges, Tavares said. It also bit another dog that year.

The attack on the dog prompted a dangerous dog abatement order to be issued on Dozer, Tavares said.

The order prohibited the dog's being walked without a leash and muzzle and ordered him confined at all other times to his property, a west Petaluma bungalow where two signs warn visitors to beware the pit bull on the premises.

[dropkickpa]

28. Oh yeah, she's an idiot

Sorry she got hurt, but really now, what kind of fool goes back into a house with a dog that had bitten them previously?

I just wanted to point out the differences in reporting on this small story (could only find 4 press things in a google search referring to it). It's kind of like that game telephone we used to play as kids. I imagine if the story made it to Pittsburgh it would say the dog attacked her at the door and ripped her arm off.

[DS1]

9. Just have the entire fucking breed sterilixed and let them disappear

It's not going to affect any food chain, and the owners don't have to give them up for mass killings. Just end the capacity to make more.

[idgiehkt]

13. the people with the most dangerous pits are breeding them

to fight. It sucks. I don't know what the answer is. :cry:

[LeftyMom]

11. 90 lbs? Pitties don't get that big.

Misidentification or mixed with something else.

[fortyfeetunder]

15. Good thing it was not me getting bit.

I have pit-bull like jaws to and that pup would have had a few pieces removed with my teeth...

Pit bulls, make my day....