A criminally overrated band

[taterguy]

U2
You knew that was coming didn't you?

[Richard Steele]

1. Didn't used to be that way.

:cry:

[AlCzervik]

18. Gloria, that is their best song imo. I still have the import i bought at stairway to heaven

in Boston.

[Richardo]

71. I agree. 'Gloria' followed by 'Beautiful Day' are the only two U2 songs I'll turn it up for

[Tektonik]

2. heathen! U2 is and always amazing no matter how annoying Bono can be

Alas my vote goes to 70's rock, the whole lot of it

:puke:

[taterguy]

12. U2 formed in 1976 :)

[Tektonik]

15. and it's a good thing I like only their material from the 80's and 90's

:P

but U2 wouldn't fall under what I call 70's rock anyhow

[taterguy]

23. I hate it when people change the terms of debate

You make a factual statement
I make a factual statement to point out the flaws in your reasoning
Then you try to weasel out of it.
Very un-rocking behaviour if you ask me :)

[Tektonik]

122. If U2 is counts as seventies rock

then this isn't an argument that could ever be won w/ you, at a certain point common sense should be the basis of an argument rather than simple nitpicking

[taterguy]

135. Common sense is being careful with language or not giving a shit when people call you on it

Your post says the "whole lot" of 70s rock. That covers a lot of ground and a lot of great rock. (Big Star, the Concert for Bangladesh, punk rock, new wave, yadda yadda yadda) U2 spent 40 percent of that decade rocking out so I think they fit in with that overbroad generalization you made.

[Tektonik]

171. Sigh

Just google 70's rock and look at the million lists of bands that are encompassed in that title, and I defy you to find 2 that include U2. You're just being anal to be anal. '70's rock' maybe shouldn't be a term that's used, however it is one that is, rather commonly.

[mitchum]

50. U2 is as much of a pompous overblown dinosaur band as the 70s...

bands they allegedly deplored.
meet the new con
same as the old con

[datasuspect]

103. yeah, their early stuff was more christian rock

and huey lewis and the news had a punky edge when they first started

[Joe Fields]

100. I would agree with most of late '70's rock.

Early seventies, for the most part was still pretty awesome.

[RedStateShame]

3. Arcade Fire

My girlfriend loves this band, and I just cannot stand them. I don't think if any band should continue its existence if it can honestly cite Duran Duran as an influence.

[Tektonik]

6. What's wrong w/ Duran Duran as an influence?

They were amazing in their genre of music

[AwakeAtLast]

22. Totally agree!

:hi:

[Jed Dilligan]

38. My friend wants to do a thrash metal cover

of "Planet Earth"

[mitchum]

54. Tell you friend that would be even more of a nostalgia trip than he probably realizes...

It was very common for punk bands back in the 80s to viciously thrash through material by Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet, Depeche Mode and other foppish twits.
I was guilty of it myself. Now this codger will leave you alone :)

[mitchum]

51. Hairdressers with synthesisers

[last_texas_dem]

87. I agree, based on what I've heard by them

One of my best friends always keeps up with all of the new indie and indie-type stuff, so I hear a good number of these bands from hanging out with him. (The majority of my favorite music is thirty-forty years old.) So since he's also a "Pitchfork Media" addict I get to hear from all the bands that Pitchfork praises to death, including the Arcade Fire. Well, after several tracks, I (as usual) didn't get what the critics were falling all over themselves about. It wasn't all bad, but was it really the best album of '05 (I think that's the year the debut was released) that the critics made it out to be?

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

180. Duran Duran made some good music past The Reflex ...

[NC_Nurse]

181. Most definitely.

:boring:

[Guava Jelly]

4. The Offspring

The guys voice is like nails on a chalkboard

[Tektonik]

8. absolutely agreed

:thumbsdown:

[last_texas_dem]

91. I'm an Offspring fan, but

I can't really disagree with your statement, either! I think his often grating voice is part of the band's appeal. Songs like "Come out and Play" and "I Choose" just wouldn't work as well if they weren't sung by a singer with a grating voice, IMHO. I would disagree with the idea that the band is overrated, though, as I'd be a lot more likely to have to defend being a fan of them to someone than I would one of the many bands loved by critics and the "cool kids."

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

161. Overrated? I actually think they're pretty underrated.

I think it's always overlooked about how many great songs they've put out. I don't think they're great or anything, but they're a lot better than most people think.

[hellbound-liberal]

5. I didn't expect it but I was definitely going to post that!

I have always felt that way about U2.

[ghostsofgiants]

7. U2 and Green Day are the first bands that came to mind.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

17. Dude, you forgot Nickelback.

Oh, wait, you said "bands." :rofl:

[ghostsofgiants]

19. Nickelback get enough negative attention for me to not consider them overrated.

Though come to think of it, I suppose even one fan would qualify them as overrated.

[XemaSab]

33. Green Day for sure

They've always sucked, and always will.

U@... about 1/4 of their stuff is good enough for me to ignore the other 3/4. :shrug:

[unpossibles]

9. Journey

I thought I was done with them, and now my younger friends think they're ironically cool.

no, they still suck.

[njdemocrat106]

41. I'm going to prove what a dork I am

I like Journey.

:hide:

[unpossibles]

63. it's ok. honestly, they had their moments

but they are one of those bands that I am so sick of I can't help it.

[Jamastiene]

158. Steve Perry solo too, while we are at it.

Oh, how I wished he "could have been gone."

[ok_cpu]

10. AC / DC

:hide:

[martymar64]

24. Only after Bon Scott died

Bon Scott was GOD!!!!!

[Joe Fields]

31. I say, I find them to be quite a refreshing group of lads....

Even after the poor demise of said Mr. Scott...

[LostInAnomie]

146. Agreed

No matter how many time you change the lyrics it's still the same song, AC/DC!

[Zavulon]

11. U2, REM, The Police, The Clash. Especially The Clash. Springsteen, too.

I've never, EVER understood why Bruce Springsteen is so big - and before you slam me, please keep in mind that I'm talking about his music only, not his politics.

[Tektonik]

14. I don't care for Springsteen's music

although 'Streets of Philadelphia' is an amazing song that gets my hair standing up on my neck

[taterguy]

21. Springsteen's big because he gives a damn

Maybe it's impossible to separate his politics from his music but I think that's a large part of his appeal. You hear him singing and you think he's singing about you, or people you love. I'm not a big fan and I've never seen him live but some of his performances move me everytime I hear them, especially Nebraska and "I Ain't Got No Home", his contribution to the Leadbelly/Woody Guthrie tribute CD.

[Zavulon]

65. I heard his music for about 20 years before I had any real idea what his politics were.

True, I didn't pay a lot of attention to the lyrics or anything, so if he gave away his leanings in any of his songs I missed it. All I remember is bad singing, nothing spectacular musically, and still a lot of hype. It's not impossible for me to separate his politics from his music at all; in my view his music sucks.

When he went pop, with shit such as "Dancing in the Dark," I was absolutely aghast. "Born to Run" was perhaps the most overrated song in the history of music, but at least it wasn't actually BAD. His pop was absolutely wretched.

[Joe Fields]

102. Just my opinion, and I could be wrong, but he strikes me as a phony.

[taterguy]

114. Wouldn't Springsteen get whacked by Silvio if he was a fugazi?

I thought that's how things worked in that circle.

[HuskerDU]

26. I agree about the Clash. I should like 'em. I want to like 'em.

But their music is boring to my ears. Oh well.

[no name no slogan]

34. bite your tongue

but you get a pass because of your user name :D

OT: I went to Greg Norton's restaurant this past weekend. The man is to food what he is to bass playing.

http://www.thenortonsrestaurant.com

[HuskerDU]

69. It's all about the mustache no name!

I generally groan when someone says, 'What a totally punk rock thing to do!' But I think it actually applies to Greg's post Husker Du career in the kitchen.

He was the rock in a great band.

edit for spelling

[Zavulon]

72. I don't feel any obligation to like 'em at all.

Given the number of times I had that fucking "Rock the Casbah" song shoved down my throat when I was in college, not only do I hate their music - I practically hate them personally.

[KamaAina]

125. You mean "Stop the Catbox"?

Stop the catbox! Stop the catbox! :P

[driver8]

81. Why do you hate America?

Commie Heathen!!!

[HuskerDU]

124. America would rate below the Clash.

I just have never been ready to soft rock! Ventura Highway? No thanks, I'll just walk.

[driver8]

127. Ouch!

You sure know how to hurt a guy...:headbang:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

163. Springsteen is WAY overrated.

IMHO, he's the first iteration of Garth Brooks - a more "rockin" country singer. All he does is sing lame ass songs about small town America. And they ALL. SOUND. EXACTLY. THE. SAME.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

13. They have a few good singles.

"With or Without You" is good. But they never get more complex in their music. It stays really simple. The Edge does the same chimy thing all the time. No fancy arpeggios or anything interesting. That's not enough to keep my attention.

They're no John Paul George & Ringo.

[ghostsofgiants]

16. The Edge would be nothing without his delay pedals.

[no name no slogan]

36. Or Steve Fellows from Comsat Angels

he practically lifted his entire guitar style from him

[ghostsofgiants]

43. Haha, touché.

[mitchum]

47. Or without Keith Levene's licks

[driver8]

82. Cough...cough...

The Edge is God!!!

[ghostsofgiants]

95. In that case, no name no slogan and mitchum have finally solved the "Who created God?" mystery.

[Joe Fields]

104. Man, that's harsh. The Edge rocks, baby!!

[ceile]

20. Oasis for starters

The Beatles, NIN, Greenday....

[swag]

25. TMBG

[taterguy]

27. That's only because you're too lazy to appreciate their genius

They
Might
Be
Giants

Is that so hard to type?

[swag]

32. If you are typing with more control in typing now than you were last week,

you can be quite certain you are growing in typing power.
For the next several days, . . .

Most commas have been lost or trashed by now, of course.

[grace0418]

86. Did you post this in the wrong thread by accident? Because they are seriously underrated IMHO.

I love those boys.

[swag]

134. "IMHO" speaks volumes.

[mvd]

28. I love U2! Even enjoy the CD Pop. Here are some I find overrated

(just an opinion, like with the other lists) -

Bjork
Bright Eyes
Britney Spears
All the boy bands except The Click Five, who I like
Justin Timberlake solo
Robin Thicke
Michael Buble
The Arcade Fire
Good Charlotte
Nine Inch Nails (blasphemy, I know)
many metal bands
Poison
The Field
CocoRosie
Christina Aguilera
Celine Dion
Mariah Carey
Lauryn Hill
Maroon Five (Blake sang much better than their lead singer)
Linkin Park
Hilary Duff
Ashlee Simpson
Modest Mouse
Norah Jones (she's gone downhill since her excellent first CD)
Toby Keith
Gretchen Wilson
OutKast
Ruben Studdard
Fantasia
Kellie Pickler
Clay Aiken
Gorillaz
Lightning Bolt
Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
Scott Walker
Stevie Wonder (I'm not denying he has talent, but much of just stuff just doesn't move me)
LCD Soundsystem
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Le Tigre
so many of those emo bands like Dashboard Confessional
Jessica Simpson
Paris Hilton (because she's so well known)
Fergie
Nick Lachey
Lindsay Lohan
Grateful Dead
Olivia Newton John

and more..

[XemaSab]

35. Don't get hurt now...

NIN... have some underwhelming albums, as of late.

Modest Mouse... kick more ass than you will ever know.

[mvd]

39. I'm glad you like Modest Mouse

One of my favorite things is to discover new artists to love. But Modest Mouse.. just not my thing.

[njdemocrat106]

42. I agree with most of your list

It's only Stevie Wonder and the Grateful Dead I really disagree with, and that's OK.

[bmbmd]

177. Olivia Newton John?

I met her one time-she smelled very nice. I honestly love her.

[Zomby Woof]

29. Queen

Freddie Mercury outpreened and outposed even Bono, and his warbling was more melodramatic than operatic.

Brian May proved that effects pedals can mask pedestrian chops quite well. Chicken shit does not make chicken salad, however.

That, and they should be damned to the farthest reaches of the galaxy for their crypto-fascist chant "We Will Rock You", which still moves simpletons at sporting events everywhere to mindlessly keep in time to the 'beat'. :puke:

[mitchum]

52. Just another reason to love you, ZW

I didn't know that you shared my disdain for Queen

[jobycom]

84. Yeah, and I still love 'em!

Mercury wasn't trying to be operatic, he was trying to be rocker. Rock is melodramatic, or it's crap.

As for "We will rock you," it's annoying as hell, but it's absolute proof that what marks a great rock band is how well they get people's blood pumping. Give me Queen over the bland, pretentiously misguided wannabees like Zeplin, Steely Dan, or Rush, anyday. Although I have to admit that I can enjoy Rush if I tune out the noise and just listen to the drumming.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

164. I've got three words to prove your point.

The Bicycle Song.

No self-respecting rock star would put that piece of garbage out. Ever.

[Mojambo]

30. Fucking Aerosmith. n/t

[mitchum]

45. But...but..but...they were kings of the parking lot...

I agree with you about them being overrated. And the really pathetic thing is that it seems to be the members themselves who overrate the bad

[JVS]

55. I vote for them!

[no name no slogan]

37. Smashing Punkins

In the words of Steve Albini, they're the REO Speedwagon of 90s alterna-rock

[mitchum]

49. Albini himself is vastly overrated, but that is an accurate and hilarious comment

[no name no slogan]

101. Can't disagree with you there

There's much more to "recording" a band than setting all the faders to 11, and redlining all the VU meters on every fscking track...

[mitchum]

117. LOL! That is a perfect assessment of the snide dork's studio "expertise"

[njdemocrat106]

40. I thought their 80s stuff was pretty good

Their post "Achtung Baby" material doesn't really hold my interest though, and Bono just might have the biggest ego in rock music.

[NaturalHigh]

44. Blackeyed Peas.

Yes, I know that Fergie is hot, but their music makes my teeth hurt.

[realisticphish]

56. but she isn't

I don't find her attractive in the least, nor do most guys I talk to :shrug:

and yeah, their music sucks (or at least sucks lately; they didn't used to be this terrible)

[mitchum]

57. You're right; she has a very Coulter-ish appearance...not skinny...

but the other aspect of Coulter's appearance

[kwassa]

67. I think she's cute

except when she pees her pants.

Black-Eyed Pees?

[B3Nut]

75. Arrrgh! One of the most ANNOYING acts ever!

Furby's inane blather drives me up a wall, and they frankly deserve prison terms for lifting "Misirlou" by Dick Dale and making a crappy pop-rap ditty out of it. You don't go wrecking a great guitar song like that, nosir. And that horrid My Humps song...aaiiieeeeeeee! Make it stop!!!!!

(Alanis's parody of My Humps, however, is side-splittingly funny...I almost peed my pants!)

And who was it that made a disposable pop-rap tune out of the guitar intro to "Ventura Highway" by America? Can't these nitwits come up with their own riffs?

Todd in Cheesecurdistan

[ghostsofgiants]

105. Would you believe they used to not suck once upon a time?

[mitchum]

46. U2, The Clash, Buzzcocks, Queen, The Who, Beach Boys, The Police...

not that any of these bands completely suck (except for U2), but these are some of the most consistently overrated acts

[RandomKoolzip]

48. Is Tori Amos a band? Also: The Smiths, Erasure, Depeche Mode

[mitchum]

53. She's not a band; she's Kate Bush for slow students

I also agree with you about The Smiths. I've always found Morrisey's interviews to be far more entertaining than his music.

[Giant Robot]

92. OMFG

"She's Kate Bush for slow students"

:rofl:

I have not agreed with a lot you have said on this thread, but....damn. Hilarious and true. Thank you.

[liontamer]

140. the world only needs one woman with red hair to make music

especially if they can both play piano.Talk about market saturation :eyes:

:sarcasm:

[mitchum]

144. Has nothing to do with red hair/piano, it's the same way that Mellencamp...

is Springsteen for slow students

[BlueIris]

159. Kate Bush can't write, sing or play (anything) one tenth as well as Tori.

And even that assessment of Bush is generous.

[mitchum]

168. See...

I'm right

JUST KIDDING! :) :) :)

[grace0418]

89. Drive a stake through my heart why don't you. I love the Smiths with all my heart.

And Erasure, and Depeche Mode.

[RandomKoolzip]

106. That's fine. I'm not making any laws here.

Alls I'm saying is that I've always found all of those artists unlistenable, and yet they all have devoted followings.

[grace0418]

108. Oh I know. I should've included a smiley with that.

To each his/her own. :hi:

[Tektonik]

123. I can't be your friend

The Smiths, Erasure, and Depeche? You're a fucking freeper I say :P



















BTW totally agreed w/ the Tori Amos comment :rofl:

[gollygee]

126. Ouch! That stings!

three of my favorite 80s bands in one fell swoop!

[Blue-Jay]

58. Radiohead

Whatever, fanboys. They're just not that good.

:hide:

[realisticphish]

59. mother of god yes

:toast:

[Blue-Jay]

60. The "Phillip Glass" of rock.

SNORE!


(I'm gonna piss off someone sooner or later)

[driver8]

83. Yee Haw!! I agree 110% with this one!!

I have tried to like these guys...I really have. I bought a couple of their cds and listened to them several times. In the end, I sold the cds at a garage sale for a couple of bucks a piece.

I just don't get it.

[WildEyedLiberal]

61. Calling U2 overrated is overrated

Seriously, it's such a cliche of music aficionados (or, less politely, snobs) now. No offense to you, taterguy, or your particular opinion of U2 - but, as you said, I could see that coming a mile away.

Most criminally overrated band: Radiohead. Listened to "OK Computer," could NOT understand what all the fuss was about.

[taterguy]

173. If I had something original to say then I'd be a musician myself

Not just someone who makes snarky anonymous comments about musicians on a message board

[MrSlayer]

62. Everything before Zooropa was worthy of the praise.

Particularly "War".

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

183. zooropa's my 2nd fav

after achtung baby. i love thew 90s experiental u2. that album was a trip-and owes a lot to eno's ohenomenal production
pop is also criminally underrated

[kwassa]

64. PINK FLOYD

Their reason for fame eludes me.

music for insomniacs. I start nodding as soon as their songs come on.

[MissMillie]

66. The Who

without a doubt

[AndreaCG]

184. Only Tommy maybe

Quadrophenia, however, is one of the greatest records ever. Their early hits hold up very well. A Quick One, While She's Away is arguably the first "rock opera". I haven't heard their new album yet so can't comment.

[Zuiderelle]

68. Lynyrd Skynyrd

[MissMillie]

70. that one too

:thumbsup:

[underpants]

111. Greatest American Rock band ever

Is it possible that they could be OVERrated???

[Zomby Woof]

128. No, it is not

It's too bad classic rock radio is so limiting. It doesn't give the masses ANY idea of the band's depth and breadth - remarkable in 4 years' time. They had so much more promise which went unfulfilled after that fateful October afternoon...

[Zomby Woof]

132. i.e., it is NOT possible to overrate them

And yes, I agree they are the greatest American rock band of all time.

[Jamastiene]

152. You can say that again.

As much as I hate hearing even the name of that band at this point, in this thread, I say, you can definitely say that again. It can't be mentioned enough.

[Rob H.]

73. Dave Matthews Band

:hide:

The fact that there was a span of time when I could hear the same damned song by them playing on three different radio stations at the same time (no, I'm not kidding) was enough to make me hate them.

Note to radio stations: just because you pick a song and play it seventeen times a day doesn't magically transform it from hackneyed shit into something actually worth listening to.

[taterguy]

74. Ducking from DMB fans?

If you can't take them on then you need to start answering those Charles Atlas ads at the back of comic books :)

[Rob H.]

80. LOL nt

[geardaddy]

77. Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner.

That and The Jayhawks...:puke:

[no name no slogan]

107. I used to live a couple blocks from Gary Louris

and used to see him at the neighborhood coffee shop, but I never had the heart to tell him I thought his band was just a warmed-over Poco.

[geardaddy]

110. I saw him at Bryant-Lake Bowl

a couple a months ago. He is definitely one of those types who's too "cool" for everyone else.

Hey no name, do you know Dave Foley?

[no name no slogan]

120. Afraid I don't know him

And you're right, Gary is a tad "unapproachable". I've also heard that John Strawberry Fields is a total dickhead, too. It seems that the less talented you are, the more unapproachable you are.

For example, I met Greg Norton from Husker Du last weekend when I was at his restaurant. Talk about approachable! Not only did he talk food and wine, he also talked about music and even sold me his new CD! He was utterly cool, even though that night my gf were only ordering a couple drinks and appetizers.

[geardaddy]

179. Is his restaurant on Lake Pepin somewhere?

Or am I thinking of something else.

btw: Dave Foley played guitar in "Things that Fall Down". He's a friend of ours and seems to know EVERYONE from the good old days of Minneapolis music scene.

[Release The Hounds]

145. The first band to come to mind

Absolutley horrible.

[LostInAnomie]

147. Oh, God Yes!

Those DB's made my years of college hell! You'd think college educated people would be tell the difference between stale shit and good music.

[taterguy]

167. Watch your language, it's DMB

The dB's were a criminally under-appreciated power-pop band

[LostInAnomie]

172. No, I meant DB's

As in douche bags. DMB is practically the definition of DB's.

[Jamastiene]

153. No need to duck.

I'll cover for you on this one. They fucking suck ass. I wish I had never heard them a million times whether I wanted to or not. Looks like the radio stations could have at least staggered that airplay.

[LoZoccolo]

76. The Beatles n/t

[taterguy]

121. Just a no-talent Oasis rip-off band if you ask me

[Iris]

78. Cold Play

poor man's Counting Crows, churning out obsequious hits even your grandma will love.

[liontamer]

142. hey

my grandma had taste! Don't lump her with coldplay fans:mad:

[Jamastiene]

157. Now, there is a prime example of some major suckage.

Good choice.

[DS1]

79. Violent Femmes

[driver8]

85. OASIS!!!!

Sorry...but these guys f*cking suck!

[jobycom]

88. Steely Dan and Rush.

Proof that stoned teenagers think any pretentious nonsense sounds deep, mannn.

[jakefrep]

90. Nirvana

Nobody would care about them if Cobain hadn't blown his brains out.

[Maestro]

130. Agreed

I never understood all the hype around them. I much prefer Dave Grohl and Foo Fighters.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

165. I think you forget how popular they were before that point.

Lots of people cared a whole lot about Nirvana way before Kurt Cobain killed himself. And their style was imitated for a decade after that across lots of genres.

It's not like Sublime at all, where no one heard their unoriginal crap before their lead singer offed himself.

[Giant Robot]

93. And no one had said Creed yet.

Very disappointed. Very.

[taterguy]

96. You have to be rated highly to be overrated

Hence the lack of Creed mentions

[Giant Robot]

97. I thought of that

However I saw Nickelback mentioned, and thought, hell Creed can compare with Nickelback any day.

[Jamastiene]

154. Great nominee in this category.

And you can bet that's the only time I'll ever use the words "great" and "Creed" in the same sentence. I can't stand their mindless, whiny noise. :puke:

[kmla]

94. The Grateful Dead.

I just don't understand the appeal.

:shrug:

However, I do like tie-dye....

[bedpanartist]

137. They can't sing, and can barely play

but boy, do they sound cool when you're on acid.

That's the appeal.

[Scout1071]

148. Wow. You really couldn't be more wrong.

But, I imagine you really haven't spent much time listening to them. They were (are) an incredible band.

[bedpanartist]

149. years listening to them, unfortunately

I had a roommate who smoked bongs for breakfast and listened to the dead all day long, every day for two years.

That's enough punishment for anyone.

Sam Cooke - Could sing
Jerry Garcia - Couldn't

[NashVegas]

98. I Started a Landslide In My Ego ...

*shrugs*

[taterguy]

99. It's pretty tacky to just post a band name in this thread and not explain why

I just can't stand people who make reckless assertions and not back them up. It irks me to my very soul.

[underpants]

112. Clapton is NOT God

[taterguy]

113. Why not? :)

[Jamastiene]

155. Are you flaming yourself?

Or did you put this post in the wrong place? :rofl:

If you are flaming yourself, does that count as playing with fire?

[datasuspect]

109. the velvet underground

the "hip to enjoy" band.

sorry, they're just a bunch of warhol toadies.

[mitchum]

116. I've loved the Velvets for over 30 years now, but I agree that they are overrated...

Lou Reed is my favorite artist in all pop music and I hate to hear sheeplike twits say "Reed did his best work with the Velvet Underground" That is utter nonsense. Reed continued to write incredible songs post-Velvets and he certainly got to work with much better drummers and guitarplayers

[Fenris]

115. The Beach Boys

Cry all you want about their amazing harmonies, how Brian Wilson is a musical genius, and how "Pet Sounds" is one of the greatest albums of all time and Rolling stone will back you up on that - their lyrics are maudlin at best and lame at worst ("Be True To Your School"?), their production was a soulless retreading of territory Phil Spector had already covered, and their "little surfer boy" act unfortunately distracts people from actual surf bands that didn't sound like an overproduced barber-shop quartet.

Summation of their crimes against music: "Be True To Your School"

The Police
The absolute worst aspects of New Wave rolled into one unbelievably boring band. It's fun to take a genre of music (reggae), drain it of all its originality and relevance, and rework it into your shitty three-piece! And if that wasn't awful enough, "Sting" has to throw in his Tony Montana-accented warbling over it. Oh, and speaking of Gordon Sumner, he wouldn't have ever appeared on TV playing a hurdy-gurdy and being all lame had the Police never existed and become popular. Thanks a fucking lot!

Summation of their crimes against music: "Every Breath You Take"

Dave Matthews Band
Aside from coating people on a Chicago architecture tour boat with their urine and feces, Dave Matthews Band has never done anything interesting enough to warrant the number of followers that they have. The true heirs to Grateful Dead VW van hippie lameness (sorry, Pfish), Dave Matthews music can be heard most days in the acoustic section of Guitar Center, played by some hungover frat boy in a striped polo, artfully ripped-up shorts, sandals, and a baseball cap which covers his rat's nest of unwashed, Natural Light-scented hair.

Summation of their crimes against music: "I Did It"

Smashing Pumpkins/Zwan/Billy Corgan
Smashing Pumpkins might have had competent musicians, but I wouldn't know because I've never been able to get over the crushing pretentiousness of Billy Corgan and his shrill vocals. In the weird musical renaissance that was the early 1990s, Corgan and company got plenty of exposure on MTV by paying homage to century-old French silent movies and riding around in a fucking ice cream truck. They were able to fool people into buying a double album called "Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness," which might be the single most ridiculous title for a record, and then they suddenly found themselves out of vogue. Then Billy decided that because no one was buying their shitty art-rock records anymore, the public didn't deserve to have Smashing Pumpkins to kick around anymore. And had anyone still cared, they would have rejoiced. But Billy Corgan is undead and cannot be killed, so three years later he came back with Zwan. No one cared, and Billy killed them. Then he came out with solo material. All five of his fans bought into it! Now he has supposedly reformed the Smashing Pumpkins, and no one really cares.

Summation of their crimes against music: their mere existence

[mitchum]

118. Fenris, I'm in complete agreement with everything in your posting...

I live in Athens GA so obviously I am surrounded by lots of Brian Wilson worshippers. My reply to them is always "Y'know, Brian Wilson has always come off more retarded than crazy"

Smashing Pumpkins
Remember how Corgan always justified playing all of the guitar and bass parts because he wanted "the records to sound as good as possible"? Bullshit. If he were truly concerned about the quality of the sound, he would have hired a singer. He sounds like a gnat perched on top of a cathedral.

[Zomby Woof]

129. Fenris nailed it, didn't he?

I can't argue with any band he listed in the post. I had no idea anyone hated the Smashing Pumpkins as much as I did. Or Dave Matthews.

The Police are musical anesthesia. Emphasis on the anesthesia.

And I am one southern CA native who never bought into the Beach Boys mythos.

[mitchum]

131. He certainly did (n/t)

[ikojo]

138. Dave Matthews Band is corporate jam

band musick.

[bedpanartist]

150. Dave Matthews - terrible singer

I can't make out anything he says (poor enunciation), and every song sounds just alike. Yep, the corporate model!

[swag]

133. They have always sucked more than anyone ever.

[last_texas_dem]

136. I disagree on the Beach Boys

"Pet Sounds" may very well be an overrated album (it's hard for an album considered by many to be the greatest album of all time to *not* be overrated to some degree) but the band itself is hardly overrated- they're underrated, if anything. The average Beach Boys-hater seems to focus on their early surf songs that have gotten overexposed by oldies radio and Sonic commercials, and decide that those singles are a fair way to gauge the value of the group.

Anyone who thinks the Beach Boys suck needs to check into some of the stuff they put out after "Pet Sounds" and through the mid-seventies; there is a lot of awesome stuff that they released then that hasn't been overexposed by radio. Additionally, they recorded a number of excellent tracks in the early part of their career that weren't hit singles, either. (Their earlier albums are spottier, though; of course, that is true of the albums of most artists recording in the early sixties when albums were still more often vehicles to promote a hit singles than major artistic statement filled completely with four-star tracks.)

I might have agreed, even though I've always liked the group, with those who call them overrated, if I hadn't dug deeper into their material that hasn't gotten so much airplay. (I don't like "Be True to Your School" either and can take or leave most of their "car" songs as well, but there's so much more to the group beyond that.)

[bamacrat]

119. I agree with U2, also have to add the most overrated..

Dave Matthews Band, along with Phish.

[liontamer]

139. coldplay n/t

[KG]

141. the doors

also, anything to do with phil collins

[Jamastiene]

156. Phil Collins, aaaaahhhh!!!!

I hope I never hear his shitty voice ever again as long as I live. :puke:

[last_texas_dem]

174. It's hard for me to see the Doors as overrated

I like them a lot, but the "cool kids" have been hating on them for years. Any group that the revisionist modern-day critics think it's cool to put on "worst ever" lists despite how ridiculous it makes them come across- it's hard for me to think of as "overrated."

[RiffRandell]

143. Pearl Jam. n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

166. I unfortunately have to agree.

They haven't put out much of anything good since Vitalogy, and a lot of people even hated that.

[last_texas_dem]

175. I can see that when _Ten_ was at its peak, but

I don't really think of them being overrated anymore, and I don't think they've been for quite a while. No Code, Yield, and Riot Act are great albums that didn't get excessive radio airplay and didn't sell in nearly the mega-platinum levels of their first three, and they're some of my favorite albums of the last decade. Their last release actually got a little better of reviews than I thought it deserved, but that's the exception to the rule, since the case was the opposite with the four albums that preceded it. (I think the critics have just been wanting them to release Ten pt. II for fifteen years now and just decided to say they were finally doing it with their last album, since it sounded a slight bit more like their older work that the four that came before it.)

[no name no slogan]

176. Agreed. Like Led Zeppelin, but without the hooks and melodies

99% of grunge was crap, anyway.

[Jamastiene]

151. Blasphemy!

Bono is a saint. The Edge kicks ass. Great band, great songs, great legends.

As for your little opinion here, :spank:
You knew that was coming didn't you?
:evilgrin:

[taterguy]

169. The only blasphemous thing in rock is a sacred cow

No one is immune from criticism, except maybe this guy

[BlueIris]

160. R.E.M.

Especially in the post-"Monster" years.

(hides)

[bif]

162. Steely Dan

One of the most boring bands ever.

[WilliamPitt]

170. Guster

[Parche]

178. U-2

They are the best

What is wrong with you!!! :hi:

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

182. snore

saying u2 is overrated is overrated
no band has mainatained the level of commercial and crical acclaim for as long, while keeping the same 4 members
by this point in their career, the stones were putting out crap like voodoo lounge. the beatles were long gone. pink floyd had changed lineup's and was mire in the gikmore years and the dead were on autopilot
for u2 to last as long as they have and maintain contemporary cultural relevance is no small feat
and when they get back with brian eno on the next album, i think they'll win a lot of people back who might have been put off by the last 2 "soft" albums