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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:33 AM
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Gauge your social status
Click the link for a Flash tool that determines your social status (click through the ad)

I was surprised to see how high I ranked. I was in the upper middle on one factor, and top fifth on two factors. Here in the South, we're known to have lower income, yet I came out well nationally on that score. Amazing, since I doubt my salary could pay the rent on a New York apartment.

My lowest score was my job description. Still in the middle range, though. Having a bachelor's degree put me in the top fifth. Another surprise.

How do you fare?


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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:42 AM
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1. Not very good
Lower to lower-middle on everything but education. Education put me in the middle-middle. Hopefully that will change as soon as I'm done with college.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:47 AM
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2. Youth works against you
The factors tend to favor older people. As you get older, your income and savings rise (that's half the factors). Also, if you're not me, your job description also improves.

I'm 47 now. In college I would have come out at the bottom of the scale.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:15 AM
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9. Youth is certainly part of it
although I'm not as young as most college students. (I'll be 28 in less than a month)

A larger part is that I'm from a dirt-poor, uneducated, backwoods family, which leaves me with very little of the support and family resources that many other middle-class people have when they're breaking out on their own. I've spent the vast majority of my life living in abject, heartbreaking poverty.. The reason I'm succeeding where the rest of my family wasn't able to is because I won the genetic lottery and wound up with a genius-level IQ, which is making higher education a possibility for me. My sister and brother are barely literate, and I'm the first person *ever* in my family (so far as I know) to graduate high school--much less go to college.

When my Mom looks at me now, I know what she's seeing. It's a combination of pride and wild hope--hope that I can get out of the poverty trap she spent her life inside of, and (although she likely won't admit it) hope that my success will mean that she won't have to go without proper medical care, healthy food, and day-to-day life security when she's an elderly woman. I don't blame her a bit for that. Getting old is a terrifying prospect, when you can't make ends meet when you're young. She has no savings at all, doesn't own anything of value, and is probably scared to death of what retirement is going to hold for her.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:05 AM
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22. ....
:hug:

And congratulations on all that you have and will accomplish.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:49 AM
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3. They didn't have my occupation.... RETIRED
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:52 AM
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4. That puts you over the top
That's my dream job!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:31 AM
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17. I feel good retired... just received my first pension payment
and it is more than my pre-retirement wages.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:52 AM
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5. well, I guess over all, I'm in the middle
Edited on Fri Jun-01-07 09:03 AM by MissMillie
for job, I'm "middle"

for education and income, I'm "upper middle" and in wealth, I'm "lower middle"

I just saw the "percentile" thing on the left...

overall 54th.

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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:54 AM
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6. I average at the 86th percentile, which is surprising
I don't think of myself as being that high up on the ladder. I'm currently agonizing over whether I can afford a new car because my current vehicle is 10 years old and doesn't have a/c.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:57 AM
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7. wow - average 88th percentile
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:01 AM
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8. much higher than I expected.
in the top fifth for the first three categories. in the middle in the last category.
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:21 AM
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10. 82nd percentile? That can't be right.
This country is screwed if my score is that high.
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:40 AM
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11. My income is upper middle class?!
Not when you live in an area where 3-4 BR townhouses are advertised as "starting from the mid-400s" and older non mcmansion single family homes go for $600,000. If I had my income in the middle of Kansas maybe I'd be upper middle class. This should only apply to you if you live in an area that fits the national average. My income in NYC would probably put me in a really bad area for renting an apartment, if in one at all.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:40 AM
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18. what did you put in for occupation?
I entered it as "diagnostic related technician" and that was only middle prestige. I got 71% overall! I was surprised how high a bachelors degree ranked, 91%!
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lizerdbits Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:56 AM
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21. Income is income
No matter what I select it's still the same amount. But I put 'other practitioner or technical occupations' since I'm not really in diagnostics anymore. The problem is job title name and figuring out what it means to who. What you put sort of fits for me but not really. Also under the Life, Physical and Social sciences category they have a Biological scientist that is high on the prestige scale and Biological Technician that is pretty low. My title is Biologist so I guess I'm in the middle! Since I've moved a little into the R&D aspect I'm not strictly a technician.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:36 AM
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25. The income and wealth markets are pretty weak for just the reason you stated.
On a national average basis many of us who live in high cost areas get very high ratings because average incomes tend to be higher.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:46 AM
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12. I did better than I thought
partially because I have a bachelor's degree and work in IT. Not surprisingly, my lowest ranking was in wealth (don't own property, drive an 11-year-old car, don't own any expensive toys, etc.)

Interesting little quiz...
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1gobluedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:07 AM
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13. Average = 82nd percentile
Even though my occupation doesn't really fit any of the categories (development director).
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:10 AM
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14. 86th percentile ...
Edited on Fri Jun-01-07 10:12 AM by Oregonian
Who woulda thunk it?

I figured the value of my house (which I'm still paying off) into "wealth," which bumped me up a bit. I don't know if that was kosher or not...
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 01:07 PM
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30. you should use the estimated value minus what you owe on the mortage
although it probably won't make much difference. When you get into the upper fifth, the category endpoints are very far apart.

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:11 AM
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15. I'm @ 69%, my husband is @ 82% (guess that JD Degree does come in handy!) n/t
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:17 AM
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16. 64th percentile.
I'm young and the savings dragged me down a bit.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:43 AM
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19. 89th percentile.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:54 AM
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20. 78% percentile
Edited on Fri Jun-01-07 11:02 AM by supernova
Eventhough I'm out of work right now. When I do work I make good money (because so few can do it properly), I have a BA, and I have some tangible assets.

Not bad... actually better than I thought. I guess I should stop beating myself up .... about the material aspect of life anyway. ;-)

edit: According to that graph, I'm Upper Middle Class... and tantalizingly just below Top Fifth.

edit2: I'm gonna do it for my alternate job that I want to work myself into and see what that result is. Brb.

edit3: If I do what I have envisioned for myself I could get 83% percentile. Kewel!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:12 AM
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23. Higher than I would have expected-74th percentile
Education powers it I expect in my case.
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:23 AM
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24. 58th percentile
So much for all that education, I'm still poor and not worth anything.
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:41 AM
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26. Lower middle in all but education, that's top-fifth
*waves at other underemployed college grads*
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 11:47 AM
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27. overall 57%
if I used my occupation from last year it jumped me to a 66%
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:01 PM
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28. 67th percentile
99th for education
74th for occupation
56th for income
34th for savings (I know, my bad) but I do have a good pension, which maybe I should have included. Not sure.

Oh well. I'm doing okay.
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doggyboy Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:30 PM
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29. Not valid for me. I scored a 31%
and only that high because I have "some college", but when I tell my story IRL, my social status increases to "angel"
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